MIT releases post-affirmative action class of 2028 data

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"M.I.T. officials took pains to make the point that the enrollment decline in historically underrepresented minority students did not mean that the university had admitted underqualified students in the past."
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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

They will claim white flight. But we all know the real reason is they’re not competitive, which is why they’re so increasingly racist.

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What a hateful remark. Please check in with yourself before you post.
Hate has no home on DCUM.

Is this a joke?
DCUM has been infested with racism. Actually, anti-asian racism is almost the trademark of DCUM.

Is there a group DCUM isn’t racist against?


Yes, blacks.
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Anonymous wrote:"M.I.T. officials took pains to make the point that the enrollment decline in historically underrepresented minority students did not mean that the university had admitted underqualified students in the past."

Just not the best students. Clearly they weren’t under qualified or they wouldn’t be able to graduate MIT
Anonymous
I guess this shows that affirmative action really did hurt Asian American students. It’s interesting that it didn’t hurt white students. I actually thought it might benefit them, but it turns out it was neutral. Asians are kind of the like the 21st century Jews, schools didn’t want too many of them.
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Anonymous wrote:I still think that if we're getting rid of affirmative action, then we should also get rid of recruiting for sports. There is no difference between recruiting/changing the admissions requirements for a minority student vs doing the same for an athlete.


There is a huge difference, nitwit.

Recruited for sport = you have to be excellent at your sport, better than 95% of high school kids who play your sport. This requires exceptional MERIT.

AA = you were born with the “right” skin color. No merit, pure racism.

Furthermore athletes at elite schools have to meet high academic standards, and have high graduation rates, so they’re not stupid.


Nah. Depends on the sport. My son plays at an Ivy- uw 4.0/4.5, 5s AP exams and 35 ACT. Most of the sports- you need the credentials to get in or you won’t pass pre-read.
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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.



Why do you care about racial diversity in an elite college like MIT? MIT is supposed only to admit the most talented students in STEM, not political poster children. As clearly shown by MIT's admission data, some of the seats were stolen from Asian students by URM due to unconstitutional affirmative action before the Supreme Court stuck it down.
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Anonymous wrote:I guess this shows that affirmative action really did hurt Asian American students. It’s interesting that it didn’t hurt white students. I actually thought it might benefit them, but it turns out it was neutral. Asians are kind of the like the 21st century Jews, schools didn’t want too many of them.



Exactly, white people tried to appease URM folks by hurting Asian Americans. They did that for over 50 years.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.



Why do you care about racial diversity in an elite college like MIT? MIT is supposed only to admit the most talented students in STEM, not political poster children. As clearly shown by MIT's admission data, some of the seats were stolen from Asian students by URM due to unconstitutional affirmative action before the Supreme Court stuck it down.



Because MIT exists in a city/state/nation that is diverse. It educates students that will live, work, and hopefully make positive contributions to a diverse society outside its halls. Because they benefit from research dollars via taxes paid by this diverse community. They receive the opportunity to avoid paying taxes to the diverse community in which it resides. Our colleges and universities in the US do not exist in a bubble.

Nothing was ‘stolen’. That speaks of entitlement. A clear underlying belief based on the comment above.

MIT is supposed to…. According to whom?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.



Why do you care about racial diversity in an elite college like MIT? MIT is supposed only to admit the most talented students in STEM, not political poster children. As clearly shown by MIT's admission data, some of the seats were stolen from Asian students by URM due to unconstitutional affirmative action before the Supreme Court stuck it down.



Because MIT exists in a city/state/nation that is diverse. It educates students that will live, work, and hopefully make positive contributions to a diverse society outside its halls. Because they benefit from research dollars via taxes paid by this diverse community. They receive the opportunity to avoid paying taxes to the diverse community in which it resides. Our colleges and universities in the US do not exist in a bubble.

Nothing was ‘stolen’. That speaks of entitlement. A clear underlying belief based on the comment above.

MIT is supposed to…. According to whom?


For this exact reason US colleges are prohibited from discriminating based on race which was what affirmative action did.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess this shows that affirmative action really did hurt Asian American students. It’s interesting that it didn’t hurt white students. I actually thought it might benefit them, but it turns out it was neutral. Asians are kind of the like the 21st century Jews, schools didn’t want too many of them.



Exactly, white people tried to appease URM folks by hurting Asian Americans. They did that for over 50 years.


No, Edward Blum used Asians to oppress URM.
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Yes, merit-based, race-blind, equal opportunity, fair competition for everyone is the way to go.


Except our society is not either merit-based or race-blind and neither does it provide equal opportunities or fair competition. You have a lot to learn about America.
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Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans


Dang skippy!

Half the world’s population (more?) is in Asia. Many of them skew young. Welcome to the future. Try as you might to will it away, the Asians were having babies while everyone else was … not having babies?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Turned off? Did she pretend she could get in? Why don’t you encourage her to apply to Howard University? She can get her diversity experience there.

I’m pretty sure this poster is white…black people aren’t the only ones uncomfortable with a majority Asian environment


This is really racist. If you substitute any other race for Asian in "uncomfortable with a majority Asian environment" you'd be branded a racist but somehow you think it's okay to say this.

You seem obsessed with being a victim. If the ivies were majority black or Hispanic, people would be in a goddamn frenzy. Asians aren’t the first race to have racism happen to them, but it’s also just truthful that single race environments quickly become exclusive.



Asian is not a race. Asia is a continent made up of many countries with people who are vastly different from each other.

Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still think that if we're getting rid of affirmative action, then we should also get rid of recruiting for sports. There is no difference between recruiting/changing the admissions requirements for a minority student vs doing the same for an athlete.


There is a huge difference, nitwit.

Recruited for sport = you have to be excellent at your sport, better than 95% of high school kids who play your sport. This requires exceptional MERIT.

AA = you were born with the “right” skin color. No merit, pure racism.

Furthermore athletes at elite schools have to meet high academic standards, and have high graduation rates, so they’re not stupid.


Nah. Depends on the sport. My son plays at an Ivy- uw 4.0/4.5, 5s AP exams and 35 ACT. Most of the sports- you need the credentials to get in or you won’t pass pre-read.

I just listened to a webinar where they said you need at least a 3.4 and 1200’s on SAT to be recruited to an ivy. That’s a shockingly low
bar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?


We can only hope.
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