Just for laughs - a sex talk with my tween

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

Here you go: “Oral sex carries little to no risk for getting or transmitting HIV.” https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/hiv-prevention/reducing-sexual-risk/preventing-sexual-transmission-of-hiv

I agree that talking about the *fact* that women like oral sex isn’t appropriate for an 11 year old. But having the conversation in a way that just makes it seem gross and scary is wrong too. That’s why I think it’s better to just be more general or not at all.

WHICH NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the lies.

Also, you keep coming back to HIV. No one is talking about HIV. There are dozens more STDs that are just as easily transmissible via oral sex. Why are you choosing to ignore those?

so nobody should have oral sex? what is your point?

No, dear. But no one should be having oral sex (least of all teens) without knowing all the facts. That is my point. The poster above kept saying there is little to no risk with oral sex which is wildly untrue.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

Here you go: “Oral sex carries little to no risk for getting or transmitting HIV.” https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/hiv-prevention/reducing-sexual-risk/preventing-sexual-transmission-of-hiv

I agree that talking about the *fact* that women like oral sex isn’t appropriate for an 11 year old. But having the conversation in a way that just makes it seem gross and scary is wrong too. That’s why I think it’s better to just be more general or not at all.

WHICH NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the lies.

Also, you keep coming back to HIV. No one is talking about HIV. There are dozens more STDs that are just as easily transmissible via oral sex. Why are you choosing to ignore those?

so nobody should have oral sex? what is your point?

No, dear. But no one should be having oral sex (least of all teens) without knowing all the facts. That is my point. The poster above kept saying there is little to no risk with oral sex which is wildly untrue.

Please. People have been having sex and will continue to have sex without reading whatever recent garbage studies.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

Here you go: “Oral sex carries little to no risk for getting or transmitting HIV.” https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/hiv-prevention/reducing-sexual-risk/preventing-sexual-transmission-of-hiv

I agree that talking about the *fact* that women like oral sex isn’t appropriate for an 11 year old. But having the conversation in a way that just makes it seem gross and scary is wrong too. That’s why I think it’s better to just be more general or not at all.

WHICH NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the lies.

Also, you keep coming back to HIV. No one is talking about HIV. There are dozens more STDs that are just as easily transmissible via oral sex. Why are you choosing to ignore those?

so nobody should have oral sex? what is your point?

No, dear. But no one should be having oral sex (least of all teens) without knowing all the facts. That is my point. The poster above kept saying there is little to no risk with oral sex which is wildly untrue.

Please. People have been having sex and will continue to have sex without reading whatever recent garbage studies.

You are an idiot. People have been spreading STDs, sure. But now we know better so we do better. Why do you think we vaccinate our kids for HPV?

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

They didn't cover it for a reason. But mommies here believe they will be managing their daughtes' sex lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

They didn't cover it for a reason. But mommies here believe they will be managing their daughtes' sex lives.

What is the reason they would cover intercourse, but not oral? Please do tell.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

Here you go: “Oral sex carries little to no risk for getting or transmitting HIV.” https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/hiv-prevention/reducing-sexual-risk/preventing-sexual-transmission-of-hiv

I agree that talking about the *fact* that women like oral sex isn’t appropriate for an 11 year old. But having the conversation in a way that just makes it seem gross and scary is wrong too. That’s why I think it’s better to just be more general or not at all.

WHICH NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the lies.

Also, you keep coming back to HIV. No one is talking about HIV. There are dozens more STDs that are just as easily transmissible via oral sex. Why are you choosing to ignore those?

so nobody should have oral sex? what is your point?

No, dear. But no one should be having oral sex (least of all teens) without knowing all the facts. That is my point. The poster above kept saying there is little to no risk with oral sex which is wildly untrue.

It’s not wildly untrue, not as long as you get Larla the HPV vax. Sorry to burst your sex-negative bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

boy howdy, SOMEONE needs to bone up on their sex ed!

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

Here you go: “Oral sex carries little to no risk for getting or transmitting HIV.” https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/hiv-prevention/reducing-sexual-risk/preventing-sexual-transmission-of-hiv

I agree that talking about the *fact* that women like oral sex isn’t appropriate for an 11 year old. But having the conversation in a way that just makes it seem gross and scary is wrong too. That’s why I think it’s better to just be more general or not at all.

WHICH NEVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the lies.

Also, you keep coming back to HIV. No one is talking about HIV. There are dozens more STDs that are just as easily transmissible via oral sex. Why are you choosing to ignore those?

so nobody should have oral sex? what is your point?

No, dear. But no one should be having oral sex (least of all teens) without knowing all the facts. That is my point. The poster above kept saying there is little to no risk with oral sex which is wildly untrue.

It’s not wildly untrue, not as long as you get Larla the HPV vax. Sorry to burst your sex-negative bubble.

Another DCUM moron.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

boy howdy, SOMEONE needs to bone up on their sex ed!

Yes, and that someone is you.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

They didn't cover it for a reason. But mommies here believe they will be managing their daughtes' sex lives.

What is the reason they would cover intercourse, but not oral? Please do tell.

Probably because the main thrust is pregnancy prevention

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

They didn't cover it for a reason. But mommies here believe they will be managing their daughtes' sex lives.

What is the reason they would cover intercourse, but not oral? Please do tell.

Probably because the main thrust is pregnancy prevention

Well, knock me over with a feather. I thought it would be health!

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I don’t think I scared my child and this is not a “one and done” conversation.

I think the full conversation was basically;

Me: “I’m curious. Did you learn about something called oral sex in your puberty education class?”

Her: “no, what’s that?”

Me: “some people have a type of sex where they use their mouths on their partner’s genitals”

Her: “why?”

Me: “well, I think some people think it is a way to be intimate with each other without risks, since you can’t get pregnant, but it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be pressured to ever do it and that you can still catch diseases from your partner so if you ever choose to do that.”

Her: “no way! I’m never doing that! Did you ever do that? Wait! Don’t answer that!”

Me: something along the lines of “I don’t plan to share any specifics with you about what I have or haven’t done but I can answer questions. More generally, if two adults…. (made comment about consenting adults / cows)

Good job mom. You are raising your daughter right.

Look, I’m not going to bash OP because I think overall openness is a net positive. But this discussion of oral sex basically completely misses the mark - people do it because it feels really good, especially women. And the risks are there, but much less than PIV sex. So at the end of the day, I’m truly not clear what OP hoped to gain from bringing it up (not in response to a question) other than to make it seem vaguely scary.

I know. Because you're a creep and a man. Women get it. See your way out.

ummm no. I am very much a woman. so what exactly is inherently creepy? the fact thay women enjoy oral sex? I agree that would be a weird & inappropriate discussion to have with an 11 year old, which is why I’m on the fence about talking about specific sex acts. Because they are too young to understand. so I think leaving them with the message “there’s this thing called oral sex, it’s bad, don’t let boys force you to do it!” is just kind of counterproductive. Why even go there?

Why do you keep stating your misinterpreted view of what OP said? Nowhere did she say oral sex is good or bad. She just told her daughter that it exists and it carries similar risks to actual sex. It's important in the context of sex education. Your tweens and teens are more likely to engage in oral sex than intercourse so it's even more important to discuss it with your kids (especially your daughter).

And you are very much a man and have a weird fixation on how much your girls should enjoy oral sex. That's why you're a creep.

I’m a woman. Oral sex is generally less risky than penetration on many levels. People do it because it feels good not because they think it’s less risky (generally). OP didn’t go over any of that accurately.

Saying something over and over again won't make it any less untrue.

what exactly is untrue? that women like oral sex? that oral sex has no pregancy or HIV risk?

It's not less risky other than not causing pregnancy. Stop repeating that nonsense. The conversation on how much women enjoy oral sex is not appropriate for 11 year olds. OP presented the facts in a neutral way which is all that is needed at 11.

It's equally appropriate as talking about the risks of oral sex with a child that has never heard of it or expressed any interest in it. How about you just stop talking about oral sex with children for no reason?

For no reason, maybe. But there was a reason. A sex ed class at school didn't cover it when they should have since it carries as much risk as intercourse. Do you get it now?

They didn't cover it for a reason. But mommies here believe they will be managing their daughtes' sex lives.

What is the reason they would cover intercourse, but not oral? Please do tell.

because unlike you they are not titillated by discussing oral sex with children?