Israeli air strike takes out Iranian general.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.

The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.

And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?

Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.

How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?

They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?

Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.

You must be a Russian troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t even the consulate. It was the building next to the consulate.

It was the Consulate. The building next to the Embassy.

Let's be honest.... this was not a real "consolate" as we define consolates.
This was a military building posing as a "diplomatic" building.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

Hamas “invaded” Israel because they are sick and tired of living under decades of a brutal Israeli occupation.

There is no occupation of Gaza. There is plenty of security to get from Gaza to Israel because Palestinians are indoctrinated to hate Israel and want to murder Jews from toddlerhood and there are suicide bombers and attackers. Even the supposed citizens of Gaza who are influences can't get their story straight. They call it an "open air prison" and then show stunning right before Israel retaliated for October 7th and it looks luxurious with no prison. Nobody mentions that incredible wall Egypt built so quickly to keep Palestinians out. You want prison-that is even more secure than a prison wall.

This portrayal of Israel and Zionism as so oppressive is all part of the propaganda machine. Hamas has billions. Gaza could be a thriving metropolis if they didn't steal from their own people. Enough with the scapegoating of Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.

The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.

And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?

Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.

How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?

They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?

Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.

You must be a Russian troll

It could be a troll or bot or an extremist or simply a brain washed American. It is false information. The UAE is supporting Israel, and removing Jew hate from textbooks.I believe Bahrain showed their support early on. Saudi Arabia and Jordan helped Israel against Iran, as did France and the UK. The list goes on. The number of moderate Muslims speaking out in support of Israel grows daily. Specifically, many Iranians support Israel. The projection, lies and gaslighting to demonize Israel on this thread is out of control.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.

The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.

And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?

Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.

How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?

They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?

Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.

This is just blatantly false. Iran a "responsible" state? You have to be crazy.

This is your "responsible state." Nothing like feeding a bunch of propaganda to your citizens....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.

The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.

And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?

Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.

How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?

They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?

Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.

You must be a Russian troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.

The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.

And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?

Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.

How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?

They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?

Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.

You must be a Russian troll

The boomers on this board need a new angle. Being convinced Russia is infiltrating America when Israel actually has warped American politics, taking us to WW3 is a sign of insanity. Get real, you oldsters!

[Anonymous]

OMG! WW3! Run for your lives!!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.

The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.

And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?

Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.

How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?

They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?

Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.

You must be a Russian troll

You must be an Israel troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.

Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?

In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.

+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”

So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.

October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.

Hamas “invaded” Israel because they are sick and tired of living under decades of a brutal Israeli occupation.

There is no occupation of Gaza. There is plenty of security to get from Gaza to Israel because Palestinians are indoctrinated to hate Israel and want to murder Jews from toddlerhood and there are suicide bombers and attackers. Even the supposed citizens of Gaza who are influences can't get their story straight. They call it an "open air prison" and then show stunning right before Israel retaliated for October 7th and it looks luxurious with no prison. Nobody mentions that incredible wall Egypt built so quickly to keep Palestinians out. You want prison-that is even more secure than a prison wall.

This portrayal of Israel and Zionism as so oppressive is all part of the propaganda machine. Hamas has billions. Gaza could be a thriving metropolis if they didn't steal from their own people. Enough with the scapegoating of Jews.

Hamas has built an urbanized Gaza three or four times since Israel destroys it each time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG! WW3! Run for your lives!!!!!!!!!

DP
People can’t tell the exact time when WW
Start.
It is possible we might be at the start of it.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Reports say the US took out the majority of the Iranian missiles. More than 1/2 fail to lunch or had technical difficulties(US jamming).
A total of 160 or so were threat and the US took over 1/2 those out.

[Anonymous]

https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/iran-attack-israel-drones-missiles/

^^^story on Irans attack