Israeli air strike takes out Iranian general.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.
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It wasn’t even the consulate. It was the building next to the consulate.
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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


Nope. Iran used its proxies to attack Israel. Those proxies have found out the hard way that doing so was a bad idea. Iran is beginning to find out the same thing - which is why it is now trying to avoid such a fate through a statement posted to the UN:

"... Iran’s military action was in response to the Zionist regime’s aggression against our diplomatic premises in Damascus. The matter can be deemed concluded. However, should the Israeli regime make another mistake, Iran’s response will be considerably more severe. It is a conflict between Iran and the rogue Israeli regime, from which the U.S. MUST STAY AWAY."

Don't want none? Don't start none....


Yes Israel should not have attacked Iran.


Tell that to Iran. They started this mess. Israel has shown great restraint. Now that Iran has escalated, so too shall the conflict. Iran is scared to death that the U.S. will enter the conflict.


Israel has been goading Iran since 10/7, entire world know this, what are you smoking? Nobody is scared to death of anyone, Iran has the full backing of Russia and China. So, let’s not pour gasoline on fire, I hope this stupid administration can find and rub two brain cells and hopefully find a way to de escalate the situation.
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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t even the consulate. It was the building next to the consulate.


It was the Consulate. The building next to the Embassy.
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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


Doesn't Iran have quite the history of attacking embassies? Just sayin'
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.


They don’t want to destroy Hamas then. At least not as badly as they want to destroy Iran . It makes no sense but I guess that’s war for you
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.


How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?
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Why do the Israelis support Bibi who has supported Hamas through Qatar?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.


How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?


They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?
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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.


How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?


They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?


Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.
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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.


How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?


They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?


You’re right Qatar also let Taliban Afghan leaders to stay and they let US troops to station in their country.
I don’t know for how long they can balance this kind of strategy .
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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.


How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?


They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?


Israel’s response has been boldly stupid. The majority of Americans and the world see Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state. At some point you and Israel have to wake up and face reality.


Israel as a terrorist state and Iran as a responsible state... The state that slaughters women protestors in the street? Oh my.
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Anonymous wrote:Americans have fought how many wars in the ME since the 1990s?

Sorry, this is not our problem.

I agree with all the comments saying it's time for Israeli supporters to step up to the plate. You want to push the U.S. into yet another conflict in the ME? Why don't you start with your own children. Let's see you send your sons and daughters to fight in a new war.

No excuses necessary. We see you.


Our ground troops, marines, and US cruise ships are already there on the Mediterranean and Red Sea protecting Israel.

Unlike most of the world, They didn’t send one troop to us post 9/11 even for the Iraq war that they /Netanyahu wanted.

Why do we protect them militarily when they don’t do anything to back us up militarily ?


In that situation probably they were asked not to get involved for good reason.


+1

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/27-years-since-the-Gulf-War-why-didnt-Israel-respond-542437

Throughout the war US president George H. W. Bush did his utmost to keep Israel from responding. US deputy secretary of state Larry Eagleburger and undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz arrived in Israel four days before the aerial bombing of Iraq began, on a mission to convince us not to launch a preemptive attack and to stay out of the war. They assured us that the US armed forces would within days eliminate the danger of Scud attacks against Israel, while Israeli participation might well lead to a break-up of the coalition and ensuing difficulties. Should the US not be successful in eliminating the Scud threat to Israel, they said, the US would acquiesce to an Israeli response.

As it turned out, all American attempts to hit the Scud launchers failed, and throughout the war Scuds kept falling on Israel. Raytheon Patriot anti-aircraft missiles sent to Israel by the US, despite a number of attempts, failed to intercept a single Scud. Nevertheless, Bush in almost daily calls to prime minister Yitzhak Shamir urged him to keep Israel out of the war despite Iraqi “provocations.”


So not an ally but a problem? Surely Israel could have kicked in 100k ground troops, let the US base forces out of Israel or at least helped in a minor way?

The question is why should the US protect Israel when Israel is clearly the aggressor? What Israel did was an act of war. We have no obligation to fight for Israel specially when Israel is the one attacking another country. This is a bridge too far.


October 7th was carried out by Hamas - which is the recognized government of Gaza. Thus, Gaza invaded Israel on October 7th and Israel has responded in kind. The current protests against Israel seem to be focusing only on Israel's response and fail to explain why Hamas invaded Israel on October 7th and took hostages back to Gaza.


This is about Iran. Israel attacked their Consulate in Syria last week. Iran has now responded. Bibi started this crap.


The consulate was struck because Iran's top general responsible for coordinating Iran's militant proxy attacks against Israel was there. This was the guy who was Iran's liaison and commandant to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to the Houthis, to pro-Iran Syrian and Iraqi factions. It wasn't as though it was an out-of-the-blue attack.


And yet Israel doesn’t bomb the actual Hamas commanders in Qatar. Why?

Israel would like to cloak this current attack in Hamas but it doesn’t fly. What explains the Suleimani strike in 2020 by Trump and all the previous strikes Israel did re: Syria and Iran without retaliation?


Why would Israel bomb anyone in Qatar? Much easier access if they want to dispatch the Hamas leadership there. I'm guessing they are useful idiots for the time being.


How is Qatar a friendly nation with US and at the same time they have Hams leadership staying there?


They are just wheeler-dealers. Aligned with Iran, but not too much that it betrays their own interests so they answer to the US as well. The Hamas leadership in Qatar will be gone as soon as the West wants them to be gone. I'm sure it's more useful to Israel to have someone for now to represent Hamas (that Qatar can lean on) than complete assymetric, irregular warfare. I'm sure they supported Hamas in Qatar to have some kind of order and communication over the years, but that didn't go so well when Hamas pulled it's boldly stupid and evil move on 10/7. So again, "for now". Isn't this stuff kind of obvious?


You’re right Qatar also let Taliban Afghan leaders to stay and they let US troops to station in their country.
I don’t know for how long they can balance this kind of strategy .


It seems to work for them. Middlemen are helpful. In the end all of Hamas is going to need to go and I'm sure Qatar will help with that when the time comes.
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