Worst election ever?

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What do we think guys?
Is the above poster …
A) not able to read a poll?
B) secretly Maga and playing 4D chess 😂
C) In the wrong forum and meant to respond to the Travis and Taylor thread in Entertainment
D) ALL OF THE ABOVE
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


You know what concerns me? How noticeable climate change has become and what that could mean for my grandchildren- this worries me. I'm also concerned about a few other non-democratic countries with rulers that are testing the boundaries of what the world will tolerate on a daily basis. These are real concerns. Trump is indeed a complete joke.
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.


How could the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country win? That's ridiculous. He isn't winning.
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.


How could the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country win? That's ridiculous. He isn't winning.


We should be concerned that the absolute worst presidential candidate in history is polling above 50%. We should be interested in engaging with this who support him to find out why. We should try to figure out what are the root concerns these people have. And we must figure out programs to help them solve their problems. Or else we (as a country) with lose.
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.


How could the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country win? That's ridiculous. He isn't winning.


We should be concerned that the absolute worst presidential candidate in history is polling above 50%. We should be interested in engaging with this who support him to find out why. We should try to figure out what are the root concerns these people have. And we must figure out programs to help them solve their problems. Or else we (as a country) with lose.


Agree but sometimes there is no middle ground. They tell me I am a murderer if I have had an abortion or even "selectively reduced" an embryo for IVF. I am not a murderer and neither are the millions of others in these categories. That one is fight at the ballot box. And one the GOP will and should lose.
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.


How could the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country win? That's ridiculous. He isn't winning.


We should be concerned that the absolute worst presidential candidate in history is polling above 50%. We should be interested in engaging with this who support him to find out why. Propaganda. As in, they have been brainwashed by propaganda and don’t think about anything at all. This can be seen in a variety of ways, but one of the best is watching Republicans short circuit when presented with facts. We should try to figure out what are the root concerns these people have. They’re angry and they like being angry. That’s it. That’s the whole root concern. And we must figure out programs to help them solve their problems. The GOP never wants to pay for mental health care so I don’t think they’ll pay here, either. Or else we (as a country) with lose.

We’re already losing as a country when the GOP is still talked about like they have legitimate policy positions and legitimate grievances. They don’t.

The first two minutes are depressing gold.

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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.


How could the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country win? That's ridiculous. He isn't winning.


We should be concerned that the absolute worst presidential candidate in history is polling above 50%. We should be interested in engaging with this who support him to find out why. We should try to figure out what are the root concerns these people have. And we must figure out programs to help them solve their problems. Or else we (as a country) with lose.


The best thing that could happen would be for a once in several generations leader to come to the surface by 2028. An FDR, Lincoln, or Washington. We are due for one of those. That's the quickest path to putting the current political landscape behind us and bringing this country back together while forming a more functional Federal Government. 90% of us still share the same core values. It can be done. It has been done before. Let's hope it doesn't take a 12/07/41 or 9/11 moment to bring this to fruition.
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.


How could the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country win? That's ridiculous. He isn't winning.


I am not sure if you are in denial or making a joke.
He is “winning” as odds on favorite to win in November.
He may be the worst president ever (on top is being a miserable human being) but Biden is so unpopular it trumps Trumps douche-mania personality.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-chances-winning-2024-election-soar-near-record-high-1875908
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I am not going to read all the responses bc from what I have read, no one seems to notice that the choices are exactly the same as they were in the last election. Literally exactly the same. So it's difficult to see how this is worse. As it's the same.

Regarding Nixon, I have purchased a bunch of shirts and pins from when Nixon was running. One says, "Nixon: now more than ever." It hits. I have also purchased campaign hats and shirts from the Reagan/Bush campaign. People are truly confused when I wear them. But it's not difficult to understand the message.


How is 2024 worse than 2020? You're really asking this question? First of all, January 6th hadn't happened prior to the 2020 election. We new Trump was awful during the 2020 election but we didn't know he was capable of completely ignoring his role as Commander-in-Chief. Secondly, Biden had had a few years off prior to the 2020 election and seemed fresh minded for a 77 year old. He currently seems feeble minded and just feeble in general. That's the perception of the majority of the American people and the people's perception is what makes a candidate effectively weak or strong. Never before have we had the absolute worst candidate ever going up against one of the top 3 most weakest/most unpopular candidates in our history. There is no other election that comes close to this one as far as being in the worst of the worst category. We are guaranteed a president that should not, by any measure, be president for FOUR more years after January 2025. Let's just hope it isn't Trump.


If Trump wins, do you think he will voluntarily walk away from the presidency after his 2nd term ends in January 2029?


If he doesn't, we can watch him get ejected from The White House by the new prez. That would be entertaining.


I don't think you get it.

There won't be an opposition party. There won't be contrary judges. There won't be a non-compliant military or police force. There won't be a mechanism to "get ejected" from the White House. That isn't how authoritarians roll.


That isn't the way it works here in America, Boris. Now carry your ignorant, communist butt back to Moscow before you are ejected.

Dp- that isn’t the way it works NOW.
they have been very open and clear about dismantling and destroying the guardrails, and checks, and balances, that underpin our democracy.
Your ignorance is becoming tiresome, and inexcusable. Do better.


Oh, I forgot how mind-numbingly stupid you Trumpers were. Go read The Constitution. Oh, wait... you can't read, can you?


Honey, log off. You don’t even understand what you are reading and who you are responding to.
Hint: not a Trumper
Hint: definitely someone who has read project 2025 and is justifiably alarmed.


DP You misunderstood what that person was saying. You said that’s “not how America works” and you are correct but so was PP when they corrected you and said “now”. Because democracies CAN die and when authoritarians get control, they dismantle those guardrails by installing loyalists. So PPs point was not to have a false sense of security. It CAN happen here.


I get the energy behind the concern. The thing is, it can't happen here. When you suggest that it can, you are discrediting the brilliance of our founding fathers. I have to draw the line at that point because I care. The people that spew this nonsense are repeating garbage they heard from people like Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow. Guess what? These cable news anchors are professional fear-mongers. They are not Constitutional scholars and they don't care to be. I'm sorry to come off as know-it-all jerk. I don't know it all but I do know that Trump, Biden or any other president will not transition to "dictator". It should bother all Americans when the cable news people are able to successfully dupe otherwise smart people into fearing something chat isn't possible.


Republicans have had multiple opportunities to say definitively that Trump went too far but they fell in line and defended him every time. So he keeps going farther and farther and it is clear that there is nothing he could do that Republicans would not defend.


What if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act and then announced that he was canceling the 2028 election? Would Republicans find a reason to get behind this? Or would they finally stand up to him?


The sitting president can't cancel an upcoming election. Not happening. Turn off the cable news. You are embarrassing yourself. Trump is the worst candidate for president in US history and therefore has zero chance of winning in 2024 yet you are worried about him canceling the 2028. What is wrong with you people?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.


Donald Trump has also said that he is going to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden.

Do you think he will just hand the keys over to Democrats after his 4 years are up?


How can you people be this dumb? Trump will never be president again. I'm beginning to wonder what the true motives of these bizarre conspiracy posts are. We have real problems in this country. A washed up, soon to be dead, criminal ex-president is not what we should be concerned with.


Dunno - the race is still far away but seems pretty close.
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls/

Personally I think Trump will win. But I really do not care as I cannot vote for either.


How could the absolute worst presidential candidate in the history of our country win? That's ridiculous. He isn't winning.


I am not sure if you are in denial or making a joke.
He is “winning” as odds on favorite to win in November.
He may be the worst president ever (on top is being a miserable human being) but Biden is so unpopular it trumps Trumps douche-mania personality.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-chances-winning-2024-election-soar-near-record-high-1875908


Something will happen to shake this up. They both have concerning mental health statuses and Trump has the legal woes. I just don't see Trump winning. It won't happen for one reason or another.
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