Baby Missing After Carjacking in Georgetown Early This Evening (30th & M St. NW)

Anonymous
Crime is out of hand in the city no doubt, but it was very irresponsible of the mother to leave the child in the car like that.
Anonymous
Leaving your kid in the car isn’t always about what others can do to your kids it’s about your kids hurting each other or themselves

Had a mother buy a table off me. Brought her two kids who felt they could just walk through my home and touch things. She was oblivious and taking apart the table to put it in her minivan. She thought it was okay to leave her 3 and 5 year old who couldn’t listen to stay in one room or feel fear in a strange place in an unlocked car in a neighborhood she didn’t know. I stood by the car w her kids in it because o couldn’t have something happen to them happen while I was there. Kid fell in the car, broke something while she was bringing the table down.

Seriously. Watch your kids

And mother of 2 active boys. If one is napping and I don’t want to wake them then I don’t get to buy a $500 candle
Anonymous
This is so embarrassing for DC and really illustrates what a shit show it has become.

Spiraling the drain here.
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Anonymous wrote:The baby was left in the car seat on a street in SE but the car is still missing. Curious about where/with who?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-month-old-girl-found-after-being-taken-in-georgetown-car-theft/3508529/

Thank goodness she is safe.


I hope these guys get charged with kidnapping and child abuse, and get put away for a long time.


Sounds like these guys are on the loose joyriding in the jeep? At our councilmembers safety walk the USAO representative told us they can't charge carjackers cos when four sets of prints are found they don't know who the jacker was.. COMPLETE IMPUNITY and zero solutions offered.


That really seems like laziness. If a link is found between all the suspects, clearly they all carjacked together.


Nope, not according to the communications guy from prosecution at the Council meet n' greet. We brought up carjackings (a friend of ours has been carjacked in DC), and according to the rep, "carjacking cases are very hard to prosecute because who is to say the person who is found with the car is the one who stole it?" So... they don't prosecute. Interpret that as you will.


What in the world is the logic of this? If a diamond necklace is stolen from someone and a person is found in possession of that necklace surely they can reasonably be charged with theft? Same with just about any other stolen goods. What is special about a car that we would think innocent people are just routinely driving stolen vehicles.

And why not at least charge with possession of stolen goods. If they want that charge dropped they can give a name of who they believed gave them lawful possession of the car? If you’re found with a vehicle that is stolen and you are innocent, you should have a reasonable story as to how this happened. Hand over the name.


Nope. They're like oh the car passes through many hands, who knows who stole it, oh well! When stolen cars are recovered they don't even dust them for prints (firsthand experience when we recovered our own stolen, not jacked car).


Absolutely ludicrous and preposterous! The car passes through many hands? Sure, I always gift on vehicles that are given to me for free, totally legit, I get a car, you get a car, everyone gets a car! Oh they should try this in Singapore.


A lot of this does stem from the Council, they have changed a lot of laws regarding juveniles and have changed the meaning of that word to age 26. They have changed a lot re: MPD, re: vending on the street, re: DMV policies and discouraging traffic stops. They message is clear and I think the USA hears it and some of his staff prosecutors embrace it, as do the DC and COA judges, especially the former public defenders. The voices of the DSA/activists are LOUD, including here. There is no crime crisis, crime fears are MAGA, etc. All BS and more and more are over it and refuse to be cowed anymore, but the city has slipped so much and it just seems to be accelerating.

When people say "vote them out" it's 1) a staggered process and 2) requires other electable candidates with different views and no too many so vote is not fragmented.

In Baltimore, in contrast, the goal is public safety and all of the pieces of the system are working together towards that goal, so it now has fewer homicides than DC.
Anonymous
In addition to the above there were attempted changes to the law around carjacking and to penalties, including if a child was in the car, to change that from "kidnapping." The law ultimately failed, but it all sends a message to the other players.

And I think there are activists in USA office too. Perhaps a bigger influence on the culture post 2017 than before > rising no paper rates. Rumor is that a cohort of people who prosecuted everything retired around the same time and the office culture changed.

When Graves has dialed up prosecutions in one area, they have dropped overall for the month, as though there is pushback. It's tricky as he relies on them and is pretty involved with J6 himself.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/black-prosecutors-dc-gun-cases/index.html

And even when they do prosecute or ask for someone to be held, often the judges release. The man who killed the young woman from VA going to Echostage had been ordered held by one judge with a detailed order re: dangerousness, only for a judge re: a different matter to order him released a short time later. With tragic results.

There is a real vibe in the city from the laws with endless chances even for rapists and murderers, to the Sentencing Commission nomination to vouchers prioritizing returning citizens for W3 rather than young moms or the elderly, that criminals are the priority of the Council.

I'm curious what the plan is for the shrinking revenue streams - CRE crash, expiring fed and commercial leases soon, long time residents moving, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Crime is out of hand in the city no doubt, but it was very irresponsible of the mother to leave the child in the car like that.


Yes, it was.

But still, there were predators out looking for victims at 6 on a Friday. We were very close to a violent crime on The Wharf and since have been spending more time in Georgetown for dinner, a movie, shopping, it seemed safer. My illusions about that are gone.

In the 90s, DC was so cheap. The feeling of needing to be vigilant and the financial stress put together are exhausting. In 90s crime was more predictable, witnesses, daylight, cops nearby all deterred. Now, have to be on high alert coming out of Wegmans in City Ridge on a Sunday afternoon, on the metro at peak fare times, etc. Another bad law was the service fee, costs of eating out have gone up so much. Thanks DSA for promoting that as a win. Instead restaurants are closing and people are losing their jobs, entirely predictable. I feel like we've been dropped in an episode of Portlandia with elements of Skid Row. Wish we could go back to 2017 or 2012. QoL was SO much better.
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Anonymous wrote:The baby was left in the car seat on a street in SE but the car is still missing. Curious about where/with who?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-month-old-girl-found-after-being-taken-in-georgetown-car-theft/3508529/

Thank goodness she is safe.


I hope these guys get charged with kidnapping and child abuse, and get put away for a long time.


Sounds like these guys are on the loose joyriding in the jeep? At our councilmembers safety walk the USAO representative told us they can't charge carjackers cos when four sets of prints are found they don't know who the jacker was.. COMPLETE IMPUNITY and zero solutions offered.


Hope you told them what utter bullshit this was! 4sets of fingerprints? Arrest and charge them all, unless there is a reason for that fingerprint in the car. Are these people STUPID?


No. They have a different goal than you do. Can't you see that? Listen to their rhetoric.
Anonymous
What is the conversation with your husband and in-laws like when you return home after having left your baby in a car that gets stolen??
Anonymous
The mother is an idiot, who leaves their car unattended with a very young infant to go fragrance shopping?

This was not a kidnapping as much as it was child neglect.
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Anonymous wrote:What is the conversation with your husband and in-laws like when you return home after having left your baby in a car that gets stolen??


+1,000

The car jackets did the right thing. But the onus is solely on the mother. Fortunately, they even left a note to help her out.
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Anonymous wrote:What is the conversation with your husband and in-laws like when you return home after having left your baby in a car that gets stolen??


+1,000

The car jackets did the right thing. But the onus is solely on the mother. Fortunately, they even left a note to help her out.


Imagine the carjacker writing that note and soothing the baby “You’re ok, they’ll take care of you. I’m sorry your mama is an idiot.”
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like DC has just given up.



Yes. Wapo article has comments turned off and this is the final sentence "Robinson urged motorists not to leave vehicles idling, despite cold weather at this time of year." https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/05/child-baby-stolen-car-georgetown/

So will the person who left the baby alone in the idling car get charged with anything? Child endangeerment? Back in 2015 there were arrests when a couple left children in a car for a wine tasting https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/d-c-man-charged-with-leaving-toddlers-in-car-to-go-to-a-wine-tasting-appears-in-court-111564
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Anonymous wrote:What is the conversation with your husband and in-laws like when you return home after having left your baby in a car that gets stolen??


+1,000

The car jackets did the right thing. But the onus is solely on the mother. Fortunately, they even left a note to help her out.


Can we get the mayor to give them the key to the city?
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Anonymous wrote:Seems like DC has just given up.



Yes. Wapo article has comments turned off and this is the final sentence "Robinson urged motorists not to leave vehicles idling, despite cold weather at this time of year." https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/05/child-baby-stolen-car-georgetown/

So will the person who left the baby alone in the idling car get charged with anything? Child endangeerment? Back in 2015 there were arrests when a couple left children in a car for a wine tasting https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/d-c-man-charged-with-leaving-toddlers-in-car-to-go-to-a-wine-tasting-appears-in-court-111564


I love how the WaPo article said not to leave cars idling, but says NOTHING about not leaving children alone with the keys/ fobs inside an idling car. Most cars today have fobs that allow an engine to be turned on remotely for 10 +/- minutes. This woman didn’t remotely turn on the engine and keep the fob with her (yes the car could have been stolen if she was close enough but they wouldn’t have gotten very far without the fob, eventually engine automatically turns off either due to time or distance between car and fob). She left the fob IN THE CAR. Holy $hit.
Anonymous
She is probably from a low crime country and this is a misunderstanding of "how things work" in scummy crime ridden DC. In England people used to leave a row of babies in prams outside the waitrose while they shopped, sunning themselves and getting their vitamin D. I'm sure it's cultural. I'm also loving how we (you) are basically all focused on the "rape victims clothing" right now. Someone stealing cars on M street is a bold move, and car theft is bound to result in mayhem and death at some point. I was almost massacred stepping into the street in Georgetown the other day when a car took the corner Grand Theft Auto style, probably driving away from a crime or stolen. This is squarely on the perps.
But sure--call for her head. Maybe they'll take the baby away and give it to the DC child welfare system so it can grow up to be a car jacker.
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