Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell is much easier to get into than the others. There have been 10 plus students from our public high school who have gotten in each of the past 2 years. Vs the other ivies have 0-2.

Same here (maybe same hs?). Versus very few kids from our HS were admitted to Michigan, Wash U, etc these past 2 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell is much easier to get into than the others. There have been 10 plus students from our public high school who have gotten in each of the past 2 years. Vs the other ivies have 0-2.

Same here (maybe same hs?). Versus very few kids from our HS were admitted to Michigan, Wash U, etc these past 2 years.

Which HS?

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Anonymous wrote:Unlike the other Ivies, some of Cornell's colleges are state colleges. It is located in a rural area rather than concentrated on the more eastern coast. It started as primarily a land grant institute that was focused on agriculture. Typically when you think Ivy League you think wall street/business not farmer. This has all changed over time and Cornell's business school is strong but old ties, traditions, and reputation die hard.

Right...not a big city school like Dartmouth!

Cornell has 17k undergrads. VERY large for an Ivy. Dartmouth has 6k.

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Non hooked Cornell grads are super intelligent and work their ass off

Love hiring them

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Ivy League really Harvard and Yale and everyone else? If we're talking just general prestige anyway. Some people have heard of Princeton. Many of them rate its law school as being great

Cornell has a #7 ranked computer science dept and Yale is #20.

Where does that rank even come from? Something semi-useless like USNWR's undergrad department rankings?
Yes, everyone knows Yale was late to the CS game but it is now pouring $$ into it and Yale has plenty to invest and improve quickly. I'd go to Yale over Cornell for CS in a heartbeat with the recent investment and overall name recognition.

Sounds like you went to clown school.

Please don't use USNWR departmental rankings or have your kids use them! At the very least look at their grad school rankings to better understand relative strength. Their departmental rankings are simply a survey of academics at peer institutions.

The grad school rankings were listed here as measure of the department.

Pick the school not the department! Majors and interests change

Disagree when it is something as important and popular as computer science.

No pp is right. Unless, your DC wants to go into research/ PhD then the school is most important.

Oh sure. It’s better to go to Yale than Carnegie Mellon for CS because you really need a PhD to excel if you attend the latter. Please….

Yes it will always be better to go to Yale CS, espionage if you want quant finance. If you want big tech than CNU is probably better but Big tech isn't that prestigious or hard to get into, a lot of public school kids there.

Who told you this? This precisely backwards.

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Yale espionage is so underrated.

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Do you know why some women are called "beach"? Because they sleep with everyone - except with you.

Why is Cornell called "lower ivy"? Because Cornell takes everyone - except your snowflake.

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It's ranked 17. It no longer T15 and hasn't been for a while now. The schools ranked 16-25 have caught up and there's little to no difference on paper.

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Anonymous wrote:Unlike the other Ivies, some of Cornell's colleges are state colleges. It is located in a rural area rather than concentrated on the more eastern coast. It started as primarily a land grant institute that was focused on agriculture. Typically when you think Ivy League you think wall street/business not farmer. This has all changed over time and Cornell's business school is strong but old ties, traditions, and reputation die hard.

Right...not a big city school like Dartmouth!

Cornell has 17k undergrads. VERY large for an Ivy. Dartmouth has 6k.

And how many of those are instate kids who are at CALS?

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Anonymous wrote:Non hooked Cornell grads are super intelligent and work their ass off

Love hiring them

How do you know whether a coming graduate was hooked when they were admitted 3-4 years hence?

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be great if some top private schools would try to educate close to the number of students top public places like Michigan and Cal do though? Yes, their acceptance rates would be higher but society as a whole would benefit and they can certainly afford to do it.

No, because top private schools aren't top because of the education. They are top because they provided exclusively access to opportunities to get rich.

People are talking about CS departments. There is 0 need to go to university to learn CS. It's all available better for free on the Internet. The only reason to go is to network with social/wealth elites.

You sounds clueless. My kid made over $250k/yr right out of college in a CS job.

What was his major and now job title?

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Cornell is the best ivy for CS and engineering, hands down. I guess it depends what you’re looking for?

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be great if some top private schools would try to educate close to the number of students top public places like Michigan and Cal do though? Yes, their acceptance rates would be higher but society as a whole would benefit and they can certainly afford to do it.

No, because top private schools aren't top because of the education. They are top because they provided exclusively access to opportunities to get rich.

People are talking about CS departments. There is 0 need to go to university to learn CS. It's all available better for free on the Internet. The only reason to go is to network with social/wealth elites.

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As some have noted, Cornell admits directly into 1 of its 7 undergrad colleges. The undergrad admission rates vary dramatically from about 2% (i.e. Dyson business) to about 20% (i.e. Hotel Administration and Agriculture). Arts & Sciences (largest college) is about 5-7% admit rate. Talking about admission rates without specifying the college is like saying the average temperature in DC is 58 degrees -- but it could be as high as 95 (like today) or as low as 22 (as in mid-January).

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell is the best ivy for CS and engineering, hands down. I guess it depends what you’re looking for?

Not sure it’s the best but it may be the biggest and the gap between its engineering and other programs may be larger than at other schools. Its peer schools are more like Purdue and Georgia Tech than other Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell is the best ivy for CS and engineering, hands down. I guess it depends what you’re looking for?

Not sure it’s the best but it may be the biggest and the gap between its engineering and other programs may be larger than at other schools. Its peer schools are more like Purdue and Georgia Tech than other Ivies.

Ha ha! You have no clue. I love how idiots on here love to post