New VA trans policies for schools

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Anonymous wrote:The attitude of some teachers posting here is that of the parent automatically being bad and an adversary. The APS superintendent didn't mention parents. This is why many parents question the public school system - they have no idea what may be going on at school with their children and fear that the school is not being honest with them. I anticipate that homeschooling and private schools will continue to see growth as parents seek an environment where they are fully informed.

The FCPS email mentioned supporting students and parents. A school district can say that, fwiw. But APS didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:The attitude of some teachers posting here is that of the parent automatically being bad and an adversary. The APS superintendent didn't mention parents. This is why many parents question the public school system - they have no idea what may be going on at school with their children and fear that the school is not being honest with them. I anticipate that homeschooling and private schools will continue to see growth as parents seek an environment where they are fully informed.

No: the “parents’ rights” parents absolutely are adversaries though, and proud of it. That’s what we are responding to. Most parents are great to work with on behalf of their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I taught middle school 10 years ago and there were queer kids who had to stay closeted at home because their parents tried to “beat the gay” out of them. It was horrifying, and of course I told those kids there was nothing wrong with them, they were perfect just the way they were. I also did not disclose anything about their sexuality to their parents.

I think some of the PPs have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in too many households.

Promoting medication and surgery is the problem. It's a smaller number of teachers, but there are teachers and librarians promoting this and the rest of the staff is complicit.

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Anonymous wrote:I taught middle school 10 years ago and there were queer kids who had to stay closeted at home because their parents tried to “beat the gay” out of them. It was horrifying, and of course I told those kids there was nothing wrong with them, they were perfect just the way they were. I also did not disclose anything about their sexuality to their parents.

I think some of the PPs have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in too many households.

Promoting medication and surgery is the problem. It's a smaller number of teachers, but there are teachers and librarians promoting this and the rest of the staff is complicit.

This is made up. Completely. We do not advise any student, trans or cis, on anything medical or surgical. The fact you even believe this is evidence you don’t have the common sense to be a valid participant in this convo.

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Republicans are now the pro-child abuse party. Every policy they champion hurts vulnerable kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I taught middle school 10 years ago and there were queer kids who had to stay closeted at home because their parents tried to “beat the gay” out of them. It was horrifying, and of course I told those kids there was nothing wrong with them, they were perfect just the way they were. I also did not disclose anything about their sexuality to their parents.

I think some of the PPs have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in too many households.

Promoting medication and surgery is the problem. It's a smaller number of teachers, but there are teachers and librarians promoting this and the rest of the staff is complicit.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:I taught middle school 10 years ago and there were queer kids who had to stay closeted at home because their parents tried to “beat the gay” out of them. It was horrifying, and of course I told those kids there was nothing wrong with them, they were perfect just the way they were. I also did not disclose anything about their sexuality to their parents.

I think some of the PPs have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in too many households.

Promoting medication and surgery is the problem. It's a smaller number of teachers, but there are teachers and librarians promoting this and the rest of the staff is complicit.

This is made up. Completely. We do not advise any student, trans or cis, on anything medical or surgical. The fact you even believe this is evidence you don’t have the common sense to be a valid participant in this convo.

It doesn't happen in Virginia. And we want to keep it that way. We are not California here.

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Anonymous wrote:I taught middle school 10 years ago and there were queer kids who had to stay closeted at home because their parents tried to “beat the gay” out of them. It was horrifying, and of course I told those kids there was nothing wrong with them, they were perfect just the way they were. I also did not disclose anything about their sexuality to their parents.

I think some of the PPs have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in too many households.

Promoting medication and surgery is the problem. It's a smaller number of teachers, but there are teachers and librarians promoting this and the rest of the staff is complicit.

Nonsense. I am a special ed teacher and I can't even suggest medication to parents whose kid has a medical diagnosis of ADHD that is crippling him academically and socially. If anyone can provide a source where a teacher or librarian has actually "promoted medication and surgery" to a trans student, I'd love to see it.

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Anonymous wrote:The attitude of some teachers posting here is that of the parent automatically being bad and an adversary. The APS superintendent didn't mention parents. This is why many parents question the public school system - they have no idea what may be going on at school with their children and fear that the school is not being honest with them. I anticipate that homeschooling and private schools will continue to see growth as parents seek an environment where they are fully informed.

No: the “parents’ rights” parents absolutely are adversaries though, and proud of it. That’s what we are responding to. Most parents are great to work with on behalf of their kids.

You are literally the problem. What part of the children being the responsibility of the parents don't you understand? The parents can remove the child from the school if push comes to shove. They have the ultimate say so.

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Anonymous wrote:I taught middle school 10 years ago and there were queer kids who had to stay closeted at home because their parents tried to “beat the gay” out of them. It was horrifying, and of course I told those kids there was nothing wrong with them, they were perfect just the way they were. I also did not disclose anything about their sexuality to their parents.

I think some of the PPs have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in too many households.

Promoting medication and surgery is the problem. It's a smaller number of teachers, but there are teachers and librarians promoting this and the rest of the staff is complicit.

This is made up. Completely. We do not advise any student, trans or cis, on anything medical or surgical. The fact you even believe this is evidence you don’t have the common sense to be a valid participant in this convo.

But you support that one teacher, you're not in the room with them all the time when they are talking to the kids, but you know what they're saying.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher. I'm calling a kid by the (reasonable) name they ask me to call them. Period. And if they ask me to use a different name with their parents I'm doing that too.

**LGBTQ youth who report having at least one accepting adult were 40% less likely to report a suicide attempt in the past year.**

I'm sure as F going to be that accepting adult without hesitation. It's quite literally the least I can do.

Thank you. My hope is my child will feel safe enough with me to tell me too, but I can easily see many trying in their identities at school first. Thank you for looking out for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

This also though prevents bio girls from competing on bio boys teams. Meanwhile they get misgendered on bio girls teams because they have transitioned and look like "boys". Arlington Karens asking why there's a boy on the team LOUDLY. This happens all the time.

Yes. The anti trans people don't want trans kids to be anywhere. They are just supposed to "conform" or disappear I guess.

Or just select a gender appropriate sport where they are good enough to make the team.

What’s a gender appropriate sport? If a person born female is good enough to make the boys team, these rules don’t allow her to be on the team.

Is this true? I honestly don't 'know. When I was in HS in the late 90s we had a girl on our football team. Can girls not try out for boys teams at all?

Yes they can. There is a girl on the football team at the high school I teach at. The issue seems to be if they are a girl who identifies as a boy and tries out as a trans boy. THEN it’s a no no 🙄

Football is a coed sport. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Technically it’s not a boys team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I taught middle school 10 years ago and there were queer kids who had to stay closeted at home because their parents tried to “beat the gay” out of them. It was horrifying, and of course I told those kids there was nothing wrong with them, they were perfect just the way they were. I also did not disclose anything about their sexuality to their parents.

I think some of the PPs have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in too many households.

That was 10 years ago, and myob, what if they were a religion you didn't like , should you intervene, no teach math and stfu

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/07/18/virginia-transgender-student-model-policies-youngkin/

Will NOVA school districts follow VDOE's new model policies for trans kids?

Is there a basis to challenge this legally? Will districts challenge it? Will the feds step in?

Discuss.

So anyway…

Some school districts will and some won’t? Yes, I think there is a basis to challenge this and if it moves through the courts transgender rights will prevail. I don’t think the feds will challenge it in support of schools at a district level.

I don’t know what to tell you. Ask yourself if you are going to be effected on a daily basis by trans rights legislation. How will this prevent you from living your most authentic life? Are you “protecting” your children or are you scared of what exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rules really that bad? Don’t socially transition a child without the parent’s knowledge and permission? Sports that are segregated by sex continue to be segregated by sex rather than gender identity?

If you're a right wing conservative and anti trans then I guess the new rules are perfectly fine.

I'm neither, but women's rights don't get trumped by biological boys who don't want to compete against other biological boys.

This also though prevents bio girls from competing on bio boys teams. Meanwhile they get misgendered on bio girls teams because they have transitioned and look like "boys". Arlington Karens asking why there's a boy on the team LOUDLY. This happens all the time.

Yes. The anti trans people don't want trans kids to be anywhere. They are just supposed to "conform" or disappear I guess.

Or just select a gender appropriate sport where they are good enough to make the team.

What’s a gender appropriate sport? If a person born female is good enough to make the boys team, these rules don’t allow her to be on the team.

Is this true? I honestly don't 'know. When I was in HS in the late 90s we had a girl on our football team. Can girls not try out for boys teams at all?

These new rules no longer allow this. There are many girls on boys teams, as there has been for years. But these rules make girls only play girls sports on girls teams. Wake up people. Don’t you see what’s happening to women? White men in power are telling them where they belong and what they have rights to do?

Generally, girls are on the boys football team because there isn't a girls football team. These rules don't change any of that.

For sports with men's and women's teams, the divide ensures that women can compete. And it also protects girls in locker rooms. You can reject Title IX if you don't like it but this rule protects it.

No, this allows a football/baseball/wrestling/hockey team to say it’s boys only. In some red states this is already happening.

This is very interesting. 25 years ago or so our local HS had a girl kicker on the varsity football team. She was very good at soccer and made the football team. This wouldn’t be allowed now?