Covid vax mandates over for Fed employees; time for all colleges to end them as well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from colleges, are there any Covid vaccine mandates left in any other institutions? Or is it just certain colleges now?

MCPS requires proof of vaccination for parent volunteers. I wanted to volunteer to help with the IB exams at my kid's high school and they required proof of vax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from colleges, are there any Covid vaccine mandates left in any other institutions? Or is it just certain colleges now?

There is an emergency shelter in Manassas and if you want to volunteer to cook/serve a meal there, you must be full vaccinated. If you are not vaccinated you can cook the meal and drop it off, but not serve it.
https://www.nvfs.org/get-involved/volunteer/

To attend summer camp and the museum of contemporary art in Arlington, students must be fully vaccinated
https://mocaarlington.org/education/camp/

Those are a couple I know of off the top of my head

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from colleges, are there any Covid vaccine mandates left in any other institutions? Or is it just certain colleges now?

Many kids' summer programs require them if they are held on university campuses. JHU's CTY requires it for its summer programming.

[Anonymous]

I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside from colleges, are there any Covid vaccine mandates left in any other institutions? Or is it just certain colleges now?

MCPS requires proof of vaccination for parent volunteers. I wanted to volunteer to help with the IB exams at my kid's high school and they required proof of vax.

My kids’ overnight camp is requiring vaccination, and requiring that parents who come to visiting days be vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

Am I one of the nuts?

My two sons have had 3 Covid shots (May 2021, June 2021, and May 2022). They also were sick (barely) with the Omicron variant in Dec 2021. They are no longer considered "fully vaccinated" because they have not gotten a 4th shot. But we just do not see a need to get a 4th shot -- they both felt pretty terrible the day after the second and third shots with headaches and chest pain, and the positives of getting the 4th shot do not seem to outweigh these negatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

For young males after the second dose, that is not the case. They face a higher risk after the second dose than they do from covid itself.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/
"Associations were stronger in men younger than 40 years for all vaccines. In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test (97 [95% CI, 91–99] versus 16 [95% CI, 12–18])."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

For young males after the second dose, that is not the case. They face a higher risk after the second dose than they do from covid itself.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/
"Associations were stronger in men younger than 40 years for all vaccines. In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test (97 [95% CI, 91–99] versus 16 [95% CI, 12–18])."

That is some world class cherry picking there.
The entire conclusion: Overall, the risk of myocarditis is greater after SARS-CoV-2 infection than after COVID-19 vaccination and remains modest after sequential doses including a booster dose of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine. However, the risk of myocarditis after vaccination is higher in younger men, particularly after a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Yes--if you are a young man, you are slightly more likely then women to get it after a second dose, but NOT more likely to get it then if you have had covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

Honestly stfu. Scientific evidence is extremely weak in either direction. It’s a judgment call if a person esp a young person wants to get vaccinated/boosted, and it shouldn’t be forced or imposed as a condition for someone seeking an educational degree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

For young males after the second dose, that is not the case. They face a higher risk after the second dose than they do from covid itself.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/
"Associations were stronger in men younger than 40 years for all vaccines. In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test (97 [95% CI, 91–99] versus 16 [95% CI, 12–18])."

That is some world class cherry picking there.
The entire conclusion: Overall, the risk of myocarditis is greater after SARS-CoV-2 infection than after COVID-19 vaccination and remains modest after sequential doses including a booster dose of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine. However, the risk of myocarditis after vaccination is higher in younger men, particularly after a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Yes--if you are a young man, you are slightly more likely then women to get it after a second dose, but NOT more likely to get it then if you have had covid.

+100

These are the same people claiming, Covid is nothing but a cold. Discounting the long covid studies and the fact that it is much worse than a cold for many people. Unfortunately we will be paying for all the people continually getting covid over and over in the coming years as more long term issues develop---most epidemiologists have been warning about this since the start, and we are definately seeing more health issues in otherwise 20-40yo. Studies indicate ~20% of Americans who have had covid have developed long covid. That's not insignificant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

For young males after the second dose, that is not the case. They face a higher risk after the second dose than they do from covid itself.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/
"Associations were stronger in men younger than 40 years for all vaccines. In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test (97 [95% CI, 91–99] versus 16 [95% CI, 12–18])."

That is some world class cherry picking there.
The entire conclusion: Overall, the risk of myocarditis is greater after SARS-CoV-2 infection than after COVID-19 vaccination and remains modest after sequential doses including a booster dose of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine. However, the risk of myocarditis after vaccination is higher in younger men, particularly after a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Yes--if you are a young man, you are slightly more likely then women to get it after a second dose, but NOT more likely to get it then if you have had covid.

OMG, I meant than, not then

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

For young males after the second dose, that is not the case. They face a higher risk after the second dose than they do from covid itself.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35993236/
"Associations were stronger in men younger than 40 years for all vaccines. In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test (97 [95% CI, 91–99] versus 16 [95% CI, 12–18])."

That is some world class cherry picking there.
The entire conclusion: Overall, the risk of myocarditis is greater after SARS-CoV-2 infection than after COVID-19 vaccination and remains modest after sequential doses including a booster dose of BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine. However, the risk of myocarditis after vaccination is higher in younger men, particularly after a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine.

Yes--if you are a young man, you are slightly more likely then women to get it after a second dose, but NOT more likely to get it then if you have had covid.

You are misreading the sentence. This sentence compares the risk of young men after the second booster with the risk of young men after covid. They find the risk is higher for the former. The sentence is not comparing men and women. Look at Table 4 to see the data.
"In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of mRNA-1273 than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see why they are clinging to them.

It's a great way to weed out the nuts.

The risks to young males from repeat covid vaccinations are well-documented. Which is why much of Europe no longer vaccinates youth for covid. It is ironic that the US centers of higher learning are the holdouts in ignoring the scientific evidence with regard to this young cohort.

Actually repeated studies show that the risk of myocarditis is still significantly lower than the risk if you actually get covid. Odds are most who do not want the vax or to be boosted are not being careful and have likely had covid at least once if not multiple times. So it's not really the risk of myocarditis that you are worried about---if you were you would be more careful, mask when in public in indoor spaces, etc and do everything you can to prevent getting it. Doubt that is the case.

This is NOT true for young males. Quit spreading misinformation. The CDC and Fauci did enough of that and our kids had to deal with way too many unnecessary boosters because of it.