Covid vax mandates over for Fed employees; time for all colleges to end them as well

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 18 y/o are opposed to the vaccine. Their parents may be, but that’s very different

Are you kidding me? EVERY 18 YO male I know (and that's a lot, as I have twins that age) is opposed to the vaccine. And has no plans to get one, ever again.

Young males are concerned about the risks of myocarditis post-vaccine given cases like this, particularly when they face almost no risk of serious outcome from omicron.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10126745/pdf/10.1177_02676591231170480.pdf

As they should be. Many smart people don’t think the risk/reward on boosters makes sense from the standpoint of a healthy physically fit young male (especially ones who have been infected with Covid already). Everyone should respect that.

While "many" smart people share this opinion, MOST smart people, including the scientists and medical practitioners, wholly disagree with your OPINION.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Educated people want to get vaccinated. The effects of Long Covid are still not known, but the most recent studies indicated that heart issues associated with COVID are far worse than any perceived heart issues associated with the vaccine.

Yep. There's someone in my circle with long covid and it has totally diminished their quality of life. I can't imagine anyone who knows someone with it thinking they'll just take their chances.

My DH was vaccinated twice and received two boosters, one of which was last fall. We all got covid in February and he is still struggling with it. Out of all of us (the rest of us received our two but no boosters), he is the one who ended up with long covid. I think it's a roulette wheel, boosted or not.

It is but he might have fared fare worse without the shots. Sorry you are dealing with this—I still worry what the next 5-10 years will bring for my son who has mild long covid—we are just leaning each day of new issues

Or he might not have fared worse. Or maybe the shot made it worse. It’s not your right or anyone else’s right to force this medical treatment on another citizen. If you want to shoot yourself up with boosters, or your kid want to, go for it, but leave my kid alone.

Your kid is free to attend any school that does not require the vax. Colleges are free to set their own reqs for attendance. Don’t like them choose to go elsewhere.

I’ve witnessed kids who died from covid with no other issues pre vax. I’ve witnessed healthy adults die as well. I’ve got friends and family with long covid. You are free to have your opinions, but you have to live with the consequences of that. Luckily for you there are many choices that will suit you—liberty is still accepting students

Are you a hospital nurse or doctor? That's a lot of deaths to personally witness! From my understanding, very few children died of covid--and you actually watched several of them die. Wow.

Not only do I not know anyone who died of Covid, I don't even know anyone that had a particularly difficult time with it (beyond generally "bad flu" type symptoms.)

Well lucky for you. I personally know 2 healthy kids who died before vaccines. And several adults who came close (one being an unvaxed relative who had double pneumonia and nearly died). The fact you don’t know anyone does not mean people did not die. I know one of the first kids in nyc area to die in april 2020–very sad situation and difficult time. The fact you do not know anyone who died does not change this Fact

You must be surrounded by very unhealthy, or unlucky, people if you know so many kids who died from covid. Of the 1.1 million or so deaths from covid, about 1,600 were people under the age of 18.

Totally healthy kids—just unlucky. But that doesn’t change the fact they ar Edward. Kids do get covid and have long term effects. Kids have died who were not immunockmpromised. Both died before vaxes were available—one during the nyc peak of 2020. So not surrounded by “unhealthy” people. It’s reality for many…. You just don’t want to believe it

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 18 y/o are opposed to the vaccine. Their parents may be, but that’s very different

Are you kidding me? EVERY 18 YO male I know (and that's a lot, as I have twins that age) is opposed to the vaccine. And has no plans to get one, ever again.

Young males are concerned about the risks of myocarditis post-vaccine given cases like this, particularly when they face almost no risk of serious outcome from omicron.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10126745/pdf/10.1177_02676591231170480.pdf

The risk of myocarditis from getting covid is much higher than from getting the vaccine.

But not everyone actually gets Covid. Everyone that gets the vaccine, gets the vaccine.

People may not show symptoms of covid even while having the virus in their system, but that doesn't mean "they dont get covid" - that isn't a thing.

You're saying that every single person on earth has had Covid? You're the same person that "personally witnessed" several children dying from Covid, right?

No they are not. But fact you seem unable to believe simple truthful facts is astounding. I’m not making shut up. Family and friends have lived this. But go ahead and not believe it— shows your ignorance, not mine

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The good news is for those of us with kids in Virginia state schools there is no mandate.

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Anonymous wrote:The good news is for those of us with kids in Virginia state schools there is no mandate.

And Georgia
and Texas
and Florida
and Wisconsin
and Alabama
and Misssissippi
and North Dakota
and South Dakota
and North Carolina
and South Carolina
and Wyoming
and Montana
and Utah
and Idaho
and Oklahoma
and Kansas
and Missouri
and Arkansas
and New Hampshire
and West Virginia

I might be missing some...

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 18 y/o are opposed to the vaccine. Their parents may be, but that’s very different

Are you kidding me? EVERY 18 YO male I know (and that's a lot, as I have twins that age) is opposed to the vaccine. And has no plans to get one, ever again.

Young males are concerned about the risks of myocarditis post-vaccine given cases like this, particularly when they face almost no risk of serious outcome from omicron.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10126745/pdf/10.1177_02676591231170480.pdf

As they should be. Many smart people don’t think the risk/reward on boosters makes sense from the standpoint of a healthy physically fit young male (especially ones who have been infected with Covid already). Everyone should respect that.

While "many" smart people share this opinion, MOST smart people, including the scientists and medical practitioners, wholly disagree with your OPINION.

+1000

In Europe now initial vaccination of kids under 18 is prohibited without special approval, but I am not a smart person if I don’t boost my college athlete 18 year old son who has had Covid?

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 18 y/o are opposed to the vaccine. Their parents may be, but that’s very different

Are you kidding me? EVERY 18 YO male I know (and that's a lot, as I have twins that age) is opposed to the vaccine. And has no plans to get one, ever again.

Young males are concerned about the risks of myocarditis post-vaccine given cases like this, particularly when they face almost no risk of serious outcome from omicron.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10126745/pdf/10.1177_02676591231170480.pdf

As they should be. Many smart people don’t think the risk/reward on boosters makes sense from the standpoint of a healthy physically fit young male (especially ones who have been infected with Covid already). Everyone should respect that.

While "many" smart people share this opinion, MOST smart people, including the scientists and medical practitioners, wholly disagree with your OPINION.

+1000

In Europe now initial vaccination of kids under 18 is prohibited without special approval, but I am not a smart person if I don’t boost my college athlete 18 year old son who has had Covid?

Yet the US is still pushing boosters for all. Hard to not be very cynical about all of this. No data to back up Fauci’s ‘boosters for all’ mantra, yet it’s seen as the final word here in the US and people are still lining up to get boosters for their 13 year old boys.

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 18 y/o are opposed to the vaccine. Their parents may be, but that’s very different

Are you kidding me? EVERY 18 YO male I know (and that's a lot, as I have twins that age) is opposed to the vaccine. And has no plans to get one, ever again.

Young males are concerned about the risks of myocarditis post-vaccine given cases like this, particularly when they face almost no risk of serious outcome from omicron.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10126745/pdf/10.1177_02676591231170480.pdf

As they should be. Many smart people don’t think the risk/reward on boosters makes sense from the standpoint of a healthy physically fit young male (especially ones who have been infected with Covid already). Everyone should respect that.

While "many" smart people share this opinion, MOST smart people, including the scientists and medical practitioners, wholly disagree with your OPINION.

+1000

In Europe now initial vaccination of kids under 18 is prohibited without special approval, but I am not a smart person if I don’t boost my college athlete 18 year old son who has had Covid?

Yet the US is still pushing boosters for all. Hard to not be very cynical about all of this. No data to back up Fauci’s ‘boosters for all’ mantra, yet it’s seen as the final word here in the US and people are still lining up to get boosters for their 13 year old boys.

I guess the EU has gone MAGA 😂

It’s astonishing how stupid and obedient Americans have become. I’ve lost a great deal of faith in my country past 3 years. Not just the institutions, which are corrupt, but the people themselves

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 18 y/o are opposed to the vaccine. Their parents may be, but that’s very different

Are you kidding me? EVERY 18 YO male I know (and that's a lot, as I have twins that age) is opposed to the vaccine. And has no plans to get one, ever again.

Young males are concerned about the risks of myocarditis post-vaccine given cases like this, particularly when they face almost no risk of serious outcome from omicron.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10126745/pdf/10.1177_02676591231170480.pdf

As they should be. Many smart people don’t think the risk/reward on boosters makes sense from the standpoint of a healthy physically fit young male (especially ones who have been infected with Covid already). Everyone should respect that.

While "many" smart people share this opinion, MOST smart people, including the scientists and medical practitioners, wholly disagree with your OPINION.

+1000

In Europe now initial vaccination of kids under 18 is prohibited without special approval, but I am not a smart person if I don’t boost my college athlete 18 year old son who has had Covid?

Yet the US is still pushing boosters for all. Hard to not be very cynical about all of this. No data to back up Fauci’s ‘boosters for all’ mantra, yet it’s seen as the final word here in the US and people are still lining up to get boosters for their 13 year old boys.

I guess the EU has gone MAGA 😂

It’s astonishing how stupid and obedient Americans have become. I’ve lost a great deal of faith in my country past 3 years. Not just the institutions, which are corrupt, but the people themselves

It's actually incredibly scary. Even now, at this point in time, with all the data we have, our public health officials are pushing boosters for kids. Pediatricians are/were still pushing boosters on kids. There are random vaccine requirements still in place (eg. adult volunteers in MCPS needs to be vaccinated).

It's pretty clear to many of us that our public health officials are corrupt. Makes me wonder about lots of things - yearly mammograms (truly necessary?), annual flu shots (beneficial to all?).

Hard to know who to believe. But, I do know that I'll be taking what the CDC says with a grain of salt. And definitely looking at what other countries are doing to get some diversity of thought. It's clear that the US media was censoring diverse thought regarding Covid and the Covid shots. What else gets censorsed?

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Anonymous wrote:Not many 18 y/o are opposed to the vaccine. Their parents may be, but that’s very different

Are you kidding me? EVERY 18 YO male I know (and that's a lot, as I have twins that age) is opposed to the vaccine. And has no plans to get one, ever again.

Young males are concerned about the risks of myocarditis post-vaccine given cases like this, particularly when they face almost no risk of serious outcome from omicron.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10126745/pdf/10.1177_02676591231170480.pdf

As they should be. Many smart people don’t think the risk/reward on boosters makes sense from the standpoint of a healthy physically fit young male (especially ones who have been infected with Covid already). Everyone should respect that.

While "many" smart people share this opinion, MOST smart people, including the scientists and medical practitioners, wholly disagree with your OPINION.

+1000

In Europe now initial vaccination of kids under 18 is prohibited without special approval, but I am not a smart person if I don’t boost my college athlete 18 year old son who has had Covid?

Yet the US is still pushing boosters for all. Hard to not be very cynical about all of this. No data to back up Fauci’s ‘boosters for all’ mantra, yet it’s seen as the final word here in the US and people are still lining up to get boosters for their 13 year old boys.

I guess the EU has gone MAGA 😂

It’s astonishing how stupid and obedient Americans have become. I’ve lost a great deal of faith in my country past 3 years. Not just the institutions, which are corrupt, but the people themselves

It's actually incredibly scary. Even now, at this point in time, with all the data we have, our public health officials are pushing boosters for kids. Pediatricians are/were still pushing boosters on kids. There are random vaccine requirements still in place (eg. adult volunteers in MCPS needs to be vaccinated).

It's pretty clear to many of us that our public health officials are corrupt. Makes me wonder about lots of things - yearly mammograms (truly necessary?), annual flu shots (beneficial to all?).

Hard to know who to believe. But, I do know that I'll be taking what the CDC says with a grain of salt. And definitely looking at what other countries are doing to get some diversity of thought. It's clear that the US media was censoring diverse thought regarding Covid and the Covid shots. What else gets censorsed?

Until a few weeks ago, you had to prove you were vaccinated just to take a tour of Boston College!
There is a shelter near me (Prince William county) that asks for volunteers to cook and serve meals--you have to be "fully vaccinated" to volunteer.
It's ludicrous.

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Yup, I have twins entering freshman year in colleges requiring vaccines...but we simply applied and were approved for a waiver. Simple and anyone can get an exemption.

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I have twins entering freshman year in colleges requiring vaccines...but we simply applied and were approved for a waiver. Simple and anyone can get an exemption.

Do they grant opt-outs to anyone who asks or do they restrict it to medical or religious exemptions?

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I have twins entering freshman year in colleges requiring vaccines...but we simply applied and were approved for a waiver. Simple and anyone can get an exemption.

That might depend on the school. I wouldn't count on it for every school.

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Aside from colleges, are there any Covid vaccine mandates left in any other institutions? Or is it just certain colleges now?

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Anonymous wrote:Yup, I have twins entering freshman year in colleges requiring vaccines...but we simply applied and were approved for a waiver. Simple and anyone can get an exemption.

Do they grant opt-outs to anyone who asks or do they restrict it to medical or religious exemptions?

The latter. But you can easily make something up. Everyone does it.