How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

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Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.

According to who???

According to College Board, one must be 1/4 (one hispanic grandparent will accomplish this).

My niece/nephew will probably do that. It's funny because their one grandparent was born in South America -- but his parents immigrated there from Europe the year before he was born, and he left as a teenager. Ethnically, they are identical to my kids. Their parents are really rich, and the Latino grandfather was a PhD educated at American Ivies, and the mom grew up in the whitest suburb imaginable. They did hire a Spanish-speaking nanny and sent the kids to an immersion preschool, so the kids are fully bilingual.

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The problem becomes when you have mixed-race kids that could get accused of lying when they aren't...

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Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.

According to who???

According to College Board, one must be 1/4 (one hispanic grandparent will accomplish this).

Source?

Can't seem to find it online, but this was the definition by College Board along with the list of qualifying countries back when my son was in the process. My mother is Cuban, so my son was able to claim Hispanic on his college applications.

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A friend of my daughter's is claiming to be Hispanic on his application, which technically he can get away with because he is half Cuban, but he does not in any way at all look Hispanic, nor is he culturally Hispanic. It's a MASSIVE stretch.

[Anonymous]

PP from above.

Also I have a friend who is planning to have her sons' claim to be Hispanic. Her husband was born in the U.S. of parents born in Portugal. I told her that Hispanic was only a label that was supposed to apply to those with Latin American heritage, not Spanish or Portuguese, but she didn't seem to be particularly deterred.

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Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.

According to who???

According to College Board, one must be 1/4 (one hispanic grandparent will accomplish this).

My niece/nephew will probably do that. It's funny because their one grandparent was born in South America -- but his parents immigrated there from Europe the year before he was born, and he left as a teenager. Ethnically, they are identical to my kids. Their parents are really rich, and the Latino grandfather was a PhD educated at American Ivies, and the mom grew up in the whitest suburb imaginable. They did hire a Spanish-speaking nanny and sent the kids to an immersion preschool, so the kids are fully bilingual.

Schools are looking for wealthy Hispanics, this is perfect. Checking Hispanic without obvious means to pay for school is a dime a dozen.

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Anonymous wrote:A friend of my daughter's is claiming to be Hispanic on his application, which technically he can get away with because he is half Cuban, but he does not in any way at all look Hispanic, nor is he culturally Hispanic. It's a MASSIVE stretch.

Half Cuban is Hispanic. It doesn’t matter what you look like! My DC’s friend has one black parent and one white parent. You can visibly tell friend’s siblings are half black. However, friend has golden blond, straight hair and objectively looks white. He is still black- has a black parent and two black grandparents. You do not get to decide what someone’s race is based on their looks.

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Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.

According to who???

According to College Board, one must be 1/4 (one hispanic grandparent will accomplish this).

My niece/nephew will probably do that. It's funny because their one grandparent was born in South America -- but his parents immigrated there from Europe the year before he was born, and he left as a teenager. Ethnically, they are identical to my kids. Their parents are really rich, and the Latino grandfather was a PhD educated at American Ivies, and the mom grew up in the whitest suburb imaginable. They did hire a Spanish-speaking nanny and sent the kids to an immersion preschool, so the kids are fully bilingual.

Schools are looking for wealthy Hispanics, this is perfect. Checking Hispanic without obvious means to pay for school is a dime a dozen.

They are? I thought they were looking for “first generation” (poor) Hispanics not the privileged kind. I suspect AOs can detect the “faking it” kind.

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Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.

According to who???

According to College Board, one must be 1/4 (one hispanic grandparent will accomplish this).

My niece/nephew will probably do that. It's funny because their one grandparent was born in South America -- but his parents immigrated there from Europe the year before he was born, and he left as a teenager. Ethnically, they are identical to my kids. Their parents are really rich, and the Latino grandfather was a PhD educated at American Ivies, and the mom grew up in the whitest suburb imaginable. They did hire a Spanish-speaking nanny and sent the kids to an immersion preschool, so the kids are fully bilingual.

Schools are looking for wealthy Hispanics, this is perfect. Checking Hispanic without obvious means to pay for school is a dime a dozen.

They are? I thought they were looking for “first generation” (poor) Hispanics not the privileged kind. I suspect AOs can detect the “faking it” kind.

Don’t be naive. There will be some first-gen low-income taken from development programs. The rest are wealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.

According to who???

According to College Board, one must be 1/4 (one hispanic grandparent will accomplish this).

My niece/nephew will probably do that. It's funny because their one grandparent was born in South America -- but his parents immigrated there from Europe the year before he was born, and he left as a teenager. Ethnically, they are identical to my kids. Their parents are really rich, and the Latino grandfather was a PhD educated at American Ivies, and the mom grew up in the whitest suburb imaginable. They did hire a Spanish-speaking nanny and sent the kids to an immersion preschool, so the kids are fully bilingual.

Schools are looking for wealthy Hispanics, this is perfect. Checking Hispanic without obvious means to pay for school is a dime a dozen.

They are? I thought they were looking for “first generation” (poor) Hispanics not the privileged kind. I suspect AOs can detect the “faking it” kind.

Don’t be naive. There will be some first-gen low-income taken from development programs. The rest are wealthy.

And your evidence of this is?

hint: you have none.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.

According to who???

According to College Board, one must be 1/4 (one hispanic grandparent will accomplish this).

My niece/nephew will probably do that. It's funny because their one grandparent was born in South America -- but his parents immigrated there from Europe the year before he was born, and he left as a teenager. Ethnically, they are identical to my kids. Their parents are really rich, and the Latino grandfather was a PhD educated at American Ivies, and the mom grew up in the whitest suburb imaginable. They did hire a Spanish-speaking nanny and sent the kids to an immersion preschool, so the kids are fully bilingual.

Schools are looking for wealthy Hispanics, this is perfect. Checking Hispanic without obvious means to pay for school is a dime a dozen.

They are? I thought they were looking for “first generation” (poor) Hispanics not the privileged kind. I suspect AOs can detect the “faking it” kind.

No, they’re just looking to boost their numbers when they publish their annual demographic stats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A friend of my daughter's is claiming to be Hispanic on his application, which technically he can get away with because he is half Cuban, but he does not in any way at all look Hispanic, nor is he culturally Hispanic. It's a MASSIVE stretch.

Half Cuban is Hispanic. It doesn’t matter what you look like! My DC’s friend has one black parent and one white parent. You can visibly tell friend’s siblings are half black. However, friend has golden blond, straight hair and objectively looks white. He is still black- has a black parent and two black grandparents. You do not get to decide what someone’s race is based on their looks.

Ok, but this kid does not consider himself to be Hispanic in any other context outside of applying to college.

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Anonymous wrote:A friend of my daughter's is claiming to be Hispanic on his application, which technically he can get away with because he is half Cuban, but he does not in any way at all look Hispanic, nor is he culturally Hispanic. It's a MASSIVE stretch.

Half Cuban is Hispanic. It doesn’t matter what you look like! My DC’s friend has one black parent and one white parent. You can visibly tell friend’s siblings are half black. However, friend has golden blond, straight hair and objectively looks white. He is still black- has a black parent and two black grandparents. You do not get to decide what someone’s race is based on their looks.

+! Good grief! I know someone who is .75 Native American who has blond hair and blue eyes. Is it a stretch to say she qualifies?

[Anonymous]

DH did not lie. However, his first name shortened is a very common name in some countries outside of the US.

He got all kinds of Financial aid offers and his parents were stunned. His family is wealthy, like taking a limo to the grocery store wealthy. At first, they had trouble figuring out what had happened. He had checked all the right boxes on the apps it was the name.

Eventually, they called every admissions department and fixed the issue.

Thank you Georgia Tech we have an awesome life. And he loved every single minute of being there.

[Anonymous]

This forum is way too consumed about race.