How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

[Anonymous]

I guess you can check any race you want but your admissions can also be rescinded at anytime during the 4 years for fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess you can check any race you want but your admissions can also be rescinded at anytime during the 4 years for fraud.

How could they ever even prove fraud? Close to impossible.

And if you can self-identify a gander, you can certainly self-identify with a race.

[Anonymous]

I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else getting the feeling this thread was started by trolls who'd like to see chaos in the admissions process?

[Anonymous]

Well, my kids are part Asian but pass for white and they certainly won't be checking Asian on their applications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I suspect many of the Hispanic check

Hispanic is not a race category. It's an ethnicity. I teach Hispanic students and they all look incredibly different so you can't tell anything by appearances. I have students with red hair, blue eyes, blond hair, etc.

[Anonymous]

If lots of people were doing this, the numbers of Black, Hispanic, and Native students at top schools would be much higher.

As the numbers remain quite paltry, I’m assuming either most people are being honest, or these liar kids can’t get in even when they lie because they aren’t up to standard whatever the box they check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else getting the feeling this thread was started by trolls who'd like to see chaos in the admissions process?

The admissions process is already clearly very chaotic. Colleges have chosen to make it this way. Parents are just doing what they need to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

[Anonymous]

Hopefully all the time. It’s illegal to discriminate so why would it be wrong put whatever you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

Can somebody tell me how you know who’s African American or not? How would a person recognize the difference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect many of the Hispanic check

Hispanic is not a race category. It's an ethnicity. I teach Hispanic students and they all look incredibly different so you can't tell anything by appearances. I have students with red hair, blue eyes, blond hair, etc.

That's why it's easier to check it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read how it’s all self reported information and how colleges claim to have a large diverse population. Is this happening rarely or frequently?

There was data on this a while back. Native American was the most prevalent lie. It was a larger percentage than one might think, if my recollection is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read how it’s all self reported information and how colleges claim to have a large diverse population. Is this happening rarely or frequently?

There was data on this a while back. Native American was the most prevalent lie. It was a larger percentage than one might think, if my recollection is correct.

What is the Native American percentage at the average school? 2%? This is immaterial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I knew a lot of people personally who did. One kid of white South Africans said AA. One half Moroccan kid said AA. Lots of kids who had something like 1/8 heritage in Spain or Portugal said Hispanic.

The Moroccan kid and South African kid ARE African-American. They are not, however, black. If the school wanted to know if they were black, they should have asked that. And the 1/8 heritage kid from Spain IS Hispanic. If the school wanted to know if their ancestry is from Latin America, they should ask that. The person with Portuguese heritage should not be checking off Hispanic as people from Portugal speak Portuguese not Spanish, and are, therefore, not Hispanic.

1/8 Spanish ancestry does not make one Hispanic if they and their parents are a mix of many other non Hispanic ethnic groups and have been living in the US for the past 100 years. No. Do they have a Spanish speaking household? Then no.