Crime in DC- does police do anything?

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

In this world you describe, even criminals can get away with murder because they can just claim the person was breaking into their car and make sh*t up. I don't want to live in that world.

No, you’d actually have to have some evidence. But criminals need consequences.
Not that you should admit it, but I highly doubt you live in a high crime neighborhood.

I do not want a world of vigilante justice where people kill for a car break in and your life isn't remotely in danger. I am sister to a state police officer and good friends with a few other cops who are MPD. Nobody wants a vigilante world including them.

And FWIW, I live in NE DC in a high crime area highly criticized in DCUM whenever the neighborhood is mentioned.

A car break in is worth a call to the police. Not some dumb idiot who thinks he's rambo or hopped up on his latest game of COD now shooting into a DC street when nobody's life is in danger. If a life is actually in danger, go forth, but make sure you can actually shoot because wild DC shots are known to penetrate windows. I've got friends who found bullets in their house and know of a parent who found a bullet in their kid's crib.

If your wild shooting at someone for a bleeping car break in ended up meaning a bullet landed in my house, let alone harmed a member of my family, I'd sue the crap out of you.

To be clear, your scenario is a complete fabrication. At this point, we don't know what transpired when this homeowner went out to investigate the sounds he heard. I have not seen any indication that he simply started shooting wildly.

So true, insane how many assumptions are being made. Why can we assume the 13 year old was trying to hurt him? Or had a weapon? I will wait for facts. Right now the facts I know are teens are dangerous in DC, legal.ststem sucks and these boys were out in a stolen car.

+1. I'm also curious to hear more about the two other juveniles who were there also. Criminals engaging in smash-and-grab robberies aren't generally punching through car windows with their bare hands. I think one can reasonably assume that some or all of them were carrying weapons of some sort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

I feel the same way. Unfortunately the thug seems to get all the benefit of doubt. His mom spoke to the media about it blaming others if only she kept a tab of her own son.

In this world you describe, even criminals can get away with murder because they can just claim the person was breaking into their car and make sh*t up. I don't want to live in that world.

No, you’d actually have to have some evidence. But criminals need consequences.
Not that you should admit it, but I highly doubt you live in a high crime neighborhood.

I do not want a world of vigilante justice where people kill for a car break in and your life isn't remotely in danger. I am sister to a state police officer and good friends with a few other cops who are MPD. Nobody wants a vigilante world including them.

And FWIW, I live in NE DC in a high crime area highly criticized in DCUM whenever the neighborhood is mentioned.

A car break in is worth a call to the police. Not some dumb idiot who thinks he's rambo or hopped up on his latest game of COD now shooting into a DC street when nobody's life is in danger. If a life is actually in danger, go forth, but make sure you can actually shoot because wild DC shots are known to penetrate windows. I've got friends who found bullets in their house and know of a parent who found a bullet in their kid's crib.

If your wild shooting at someone for a bleeping car break in ended up meaning a bullet landed in my house, let alone harmed a member of my family, I'd sue the crap out of you.

To be clear, your scenario is a complete fabrication. At this point, we don't know what transpired when this homeowner went out to investigate the sounds he heard. I have not seen any indication that he simply started shooting wildly.

So true, insane how many assumptions are being made. Why can we assume the 13 year old was trying to hurt him? Or had a weapon? I will wait for facts. Right now the facts I know are teens are dangerous in DC, legal.ststem sucks and these boys were out in a stolen car.

+1. I'm also curious to hear more about the two other juveniles who were there also. Criminals engaging in smash-and-grab robberies aren't generally punching through car windows with their bare hands. I think one can reasonably assume that some or all of them were carrying weapons of some sort.

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Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

No there are no studies that show this. It’s your imagination.

Look at NW DC the police presence is low social services are high, crime low.

You know nothing about criminology. The effectiveness of policing in reducing crime, especially proactive policing, is one of the most well established findings in all of social science.

The reasons crime is low in NWDC are obvious and have nothing to do with social services.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought DC crime overall had dropped in 2022.[/quote]

It has.

Dollars to donuts none of the tough-on-crime posters in this thread live in DC. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even live in the metro region. [/quote]


I agree. They’re likely right wing trolls who love to criticize DC.[/quote]

They're truly pathetic. [/quote]
Look in the mirror.
Better yet, look outside your front door.[/quote]

+1. The PP you were responding to is just sad and delusional. I live in upper NW, and am a 45 year old black man who has lived in DC my entire life besides college. I am highly concerned about crime and the direction that this city is headed, yet according to them I don’t live here and am a “right wing troll”. Just exhausting dealing with these people — really makes me feel like I have no voice. In the real world however many of my neighbors feel the same way I do about crime. [/quote]

Thank you. I have lived in DC for decades but am considering leaving due to increasing crime. It’s harder to deal with as you get older. Even in upper NW, which is still much safer than many other areas of the city, muggings are increasing along upper Connecticut and Wisconsin avenues