Crime in DC- does police do anything?

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Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

I agree with you, however how do we invest in communities who don't want to.play their party i.e. be a good parent, responsible etc? Mist crime in DC is committed by young kids and if locking them up is not an option then how do we address the lack of parental support?

Your post is one long racist dog whistle. Why not try helping systemically oppressed communities for a change?

Not everything is about race. I ask a serious question how do we make up for lack of parental control? How is it fair a good family was beaten up in broad daylight by a thug? I honestly don't know how we can make any progress against crime and safety if the buck stops with oppression, profiling etc? I welcome your suggestions.

All I want is to feel safe and protected when I am doing everything right.

When you say "parental control" and "thugs" those are dog whistles right there. We all know what you mean. Don't be obtuse. The solution is to support programs that help underserved communities (violence interrupters, addressing police brutality, criminal justice reform), even if that should cost you a little more in taxes.

You are profiling no where did I discuss race. In my opinion a thug is someone who beats people for no reason, carjacks, robs people etc. I am.all for support programs but not at the cost of decriminalization and protected the thugs. As a teen I couldn't imagine beating people up as I knew once I am.home there would be serious consequences. I am tired of this narrative that we need to think about the thugs wellbeing how about hard working taxpayers?

I welcome your suggestions on how you think the city van do a better job and how you see it will help. Social programs takes years to make change untill then what do we do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Police presence helps deter crime, and they may be able to help you if there is a crime in progress. However, police departments aren't that great at actually solving crime, and this is not a new thing. Their case clearance rates are like 50 percent, and have been for a while.

You are right. My argument is to penalize the criminals as the city can't seem to get hold of crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You move out to a safe place. Nothing is worse than your family winning the Darwin awards

OfCourse and pay a lot of money for home security, stress of being vigilant, etc..boggles my mind I feel.this unsafe in the US.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police presence helps deter crime, and they may be able to help you if there is a crime in progress. However, police departments aren't that great at actually solving crime, and this is not a new thing. Their case clearance rates are like 50 percent, and have been for a while.

You are right. My argument is to penalize the criminals as the city can't seem to get hold of crime.

If everybody was armed … boy the criminals would have it tough .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

You omitted PARENTS.

Military or reform schools? Why aren't those an option in DC. Where I grew up we had a high school for troubled teens and it did turn them around. I know quite a few guys (it was coed but I only know guys who went) who say it saved their lives. When you were expelled from high school, that's where you went. The teachers were tough love and there were lots of social supports in place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

I agree with you, however how do we invest in communities who don't want to.play their party i.e. be a good parent, responsible etc? Mist crime in DC is committed by young kids and if locking them up is not an option then how do we address the lack of parental support?

Your post is one long racist dog whistle. Why not try helping systemically oppressed communities for a change?

Not everything is about race. I ask a serious question how do we make up for lack of parental control? How is it fair a good family was beaten up in broad daylight by a thug? I honestly don't know how we can make any progress against crime and safety if the buck stops with oppression, profiling etc? I welcome your suggestions.

All I want is to feel safe and protected when I am doing everything right.

When you say "parental control" and "thugs" those are dog whistles right there. We all know what you mean. Don't be obtuse. The solution is to support programs that help underserved communities (violence interrupters, addressing police brutality, criminal justice reform), even if that should cost you a little more in taxes.

You are profiling no where did I discuss race. In my opinion a thug is someone who beats people for no reason, carjacks, robs people etc. I am.all for support programs but not at the cost of decriminalization and protected the thugs. As a teen I couldn't imagine beating people up as I knew once I am.home there would be serious consequences. I am tired of this narrative that we need to think about the thugs wellbeing how about hard working taxpayers?

I welcome your suggestions on how you think the city van do a better job and how you see it will help. Social programs takes years to make change untill then what do we do?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

I agree with you, however how do we invest in communities who don't want to.play their party i.e. be a good parent, responsible etc? Mist crime in DC is committed by young kids and if locking them up is not an option then how do we address the lack of parental support?

Your post is one long racist dog whistle. Why not try helping systemically oppressed communities for a change?

Not everything is about race. I ask a serious question how do we make up for lack of parental control? How is it fair a good family was beaten up in broad daylight by a thug? I honestly don't know how we can make any progress against crime and safety if the buck stops with oppression, profiling etc? I welcome your suggestions.

All I want is to feel safe and protected when I am doing everything right.

When you say "parental control" and "thugs" those are dog whistles right there. We all know what you mean. Don't be obtuse. The solution is to support programs that help underserved communities (violence interrupters, addressing police brutality, criminal justice reform), even if that should cost you a little more in taxes.

You are profiling no where did I discuss race. In my opinion a thug is someone who beats people for no reason, carjacks, robs people etc. I am.all for support programs but not at the cost of decriminalization and protected the thugs. As a teen I couldn't imagine beating people up as I knew once I am.home there would be serious consequences. I am tired of this narrative that we need to think about the thugs wellbeing how about hard working taxpayers?

I welcome your suggestions on how you think the city van do a better job and how you see it will help. Social programs takes years to make change untill then what do we do?

Of course it will take a long time to dismantle systemic racism. Police brutality is not the answer.

What we need is more funding for violence interrupters. More affordable housing. More wrap-around services. But also fewer bigots like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the perspective of DC police officers.

No, that’s the spin of a union.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

You omitted PARENTS.

Military or reform schools? Why aren't those an option in DC. Where I grew up we had a high school for troubled teens and it did turn them around. I know quite a few guys (it was coed but I only know guys who went) who say it saved their lives. When you were expelled from high school, that's where you went. The teachers were tough love and there were lots of social supports in place.

This makes zero sense. But I’m guessing you didn’t grow up in a city of 600,000 people. You don’t sentence non-violent offenders to prison which is what a reform school used to be. Further public funds aren’t used to pay tuition at private military schools, most of which have a sordid history of racism. There used to be Washington Metropolitan HS in DC which was sort of a second chance program with an alternative curriculum but the Council shut it down. There is a compelling documentary about the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:in texas you can use lethal force to protect your property, this would fix a lot of these problems

Somedays I wish DC wasn't this liberal. I hate that their is more focus on theifs wellbeing vs protection the good citizens. I can't believe I live in America and constantly worry about being a crime victim.

You should consider therapy and medication to deal with your irrational fear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in texas you can use lethal force to protect your property, this would fix a lot of these problems

Somedays I wish DC wasn't this liberal. I hate that their is more focus on theifs wellbeing vs protection the good citizens. I can't believe I live in America and constantly worry about being a crime victim.

You should consider therapy and medication to deal with your irrational fear.

PP is worried about rising crime and you suggest medication? You are as low IQ as it gets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

I agree with you, however how do we invest in communities who don't want to.play their party i.e. be a good parent, responsible etc? Mist crime in DC is committed by young kids and if locking them up is not an option then how do we address the lack of parental support?

Your post is one long racist dog whistle. Why not try helping systemically oppressed communities for a change?

Not everything is about race. I ask a serious question how do we make up for lack of parental control? How is it fair a good family was beaten up in broad daylight by a thug? I honestly don't know how we can make any progress against crime and safety if the buck stops with oppression, profiling etc? I welcome your suggestions.

All I want is to feel safe and protected when I am doing everything right.

When you say "parental control" and "thugs" those are dog whistles right there. We all know what you mean. Don't be obtuse. The solution is to support programs that help underserved communities (violence interrupters, addressing police brutality, criminal justice reform), even if that should cost you a little more in taxes.

You are profiling no where did I discuss race. In my opinion a thug is someone who beats people for no reason, carjacks, robs people etc. I am.all for support programs but not at the cost of decriminalization and protected the thugs. As a teen I couldn't imagine beating people up as I knew once I am.home there would be serious consequences. I am tired of this narrative that we need to think about the thugs wellbeing how about hard working taxpayers?

I welcome your suggestions on how you think the city van do a better job and how you see it will help. Social programs takes years to make change untill then what do we do?

Of course it will take a long time to dismantle systemic racism. Police brutality is not the answer.

What we need is more funding for violence interrupters. More affordable housing. More wrap-around services. But also fewer bigots like you.

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but we've thrown $$ at it for decades.
BTW, you seem to be the clueless racist here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

You omitted PARENTS.

Military or reform schools? Why aren't those an option in DC. Where I grew up we had a high school for troubled teens and it did turn them around. I know quite a few guys (it was coed but I only know guys who went) who say it saved their lives. When you were expelled from high school, that's where you went. The teachers were tough love and there were lots of social supports in place.

This makes zero sense. But I’m guessing you didn’t grow up in a city of 600,000 people. You don’t sentence non-violent offenders to prison which is what a reform school used to be. Further public funds aren’t used to pay tuition at private military schools, most of which have a sordid history of racism. There used to be Washington Metropolitan HS in DC which was sort of a second chance program with an alternative curriculum but the Council shut it down. There is a compelling documentary about the school.

NP and I spent quite a bit of time in Washington Met HS before it was closed. It was not achieving much and not helping kids. They barely showed up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

I agree with you, however how do we invest in communities who don't want to.play their party i.e. be a good parent, responsible etc? Mist crime in DC is committed by young kids and if locking them up is not an option then how do we address the lack of parental support?

Your post is one long racist dog whistle. Why not try helping systemically oppressed communities for a change?

Not everything is about race. I ask a serious question how do we make up for lack of parental control? How is it fair a good family was beaten up in broad daylight by a thug? I honestly don't know how we can make any progress against crime and safety if the buck stops with oppression, profiling etc? I welcome your suggestions.

All I want is to feel safe and protected when I am doing everything right.

When you say "parental control" and "thugs" those are dog whistles right there. We all know what you mean. Don't be obtuse. The solution is to support programs that help underserved communities (violence interrupters, addressing police brutality, criminal justice reform), even if that should cost you a little more in taxes.

You are profiling no where did I discuss race. In my opinion a thug is someone who beats people for no reason, carjacks, robs people etc. I am.all for support programs but not at the cost of decriminalization and protected the thugs. As a teen I couldn't imagine beating people up as I knew once I am.home there would be serious consequences. I am tired of this narrative that we need to think about the thugs wellbeing how about hard working taxpayers?

I welcome your suggestions on how you think the city van do a better job and how you see it will help. Social programs takes years to make change untill then what do we do?

Of course it will take a long time to dismantle systemic racism. Police brutality is not the answer.

What we need is more funding for violence interrupters. More affordable housing. More wrap-around services. But also fewer bigots like you.

It's not bigotry to view incarceration as appropriate for violent criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

You omitted PARENTS.

Military or reform schools? Why aren't those an option in DC. Where I grew up we had a high school for troubled teens and it did turn them around. I know quite a few guys (it was coed but I only know guys who went) who say it saved their lives. When you were expelled from high school, that's where you went. The teachers were tough love and there were lots of social supports in place.

This makes zero sense. But I’m guessing you didn’t grow up in a city of 600,000 people. You don’t sentence non-violent offenders to prison which is what a reform school used to be. Further public funds aren’t used to pay tuition at private military schools, most of which have a sordid history of racism. There used to be Washington Metropolitan HS in DC which was sort of a second chance program with an alternative curriculum but the Council shut it down. There is a compelling documentary about the school.

NP and I spent quite a bit of time in Washington Met HS before it was closed. It was not achieving much and not helping kids. They barely showed up.

So we just give up on the kids who were showing up and achieving something? Cool.