Crime in DC- does police do anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

How about teaching kids that carjackings, break-ins, and stealing are wrong? There's a thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

How about teaching kids that carjackings, break-ins, and stealing are wrong? There's a thought.

Sure. Still not an excuse for vigilante justice and killing over petty crime where no life is at risk, so not sure your point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

How about teaching kids that carjackings, break-ins, and stealing are wrong? There's a thought.

OK Rambo, how about stick to shooting people in COD to take out your aggression against criminals.

How about call the cops over petty crime and "back the blue" rather than thinking you can bypass the judiciary system, the law, and just kill someone when your life isn't at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

How about teaching kids that carjackings, break-ins, and stealing are wrong? There's a thought.

Sure. Still not an excuse for vigilante justice and killing over petty crime where no life is at risk, so not sure your point.

How do you know no life is at risk? If the shooter went outside to investigate the noise and was threatened, then it's self defense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

How about teaching kids that carjackings, break-ins, and stealing are wrong? There's a thought.

Sure. Still not an excuse for vigilante justice and killing over petty crime where no life is at risk, so not sure your point.

How do you know no life is at risk? If the shooter went outside to investigate the noise and was threatened, then it's self defense

Threatened with a gun? Sure. If not? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

How about teaching kids that carjackings, break-ins, and stealing are wrong? There's a thought.

Sure. Still not an excuse for vigilante justice and killing over petty crime where no life is at risk, so not sure your point.

How do you know no life is at risk? If the shooter went outside to investigate the noise and was threatened, then it's self defense

This is in response to the PP who stated "If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash."

That PP indicated they would kill somebody simply because of a car break in and not necessarily because their life was at risk. That's vigilante justice and no, I don't support a society where vigilante justice is acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

No there are no studies that show this. It’s your imagination.

Look at NW DC the police presence is low social services are high, crime low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

You omitted PARENTS.

Who do u think needs to consume the social services? An infant? SMFH

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

I agree with you, however how do we invest in communities who don't want to.play their party i.e. be a good parent, responsible etc? Mist crime in DC is committed by young kids and if locking them up is not an option then how do we address the lack of parental support?

Your post is one long racist dog whistle. Why not try helping systemically oppressed communities for a change?

Not everything is about race. I ask a serious question how do we make up for lack of parental control? How is it fair a good family was beaten up in broad daylight by a thug? I honestly don't know how we can make any progress against crime and safety if the buck stops with oppression, profiling etc? I welcome your suggestions.

All I want is to feel safe and protected when I am doing everything right.

When you say "parental control" and "thugs" those are dog whistles right there. We all know what you mean. Don't be obtuse. The solution is to support programs that help underserved communities (violence interrupters, addressing police brutality, criminal justice reform), even if that should cost you a little more in taxes.

You are profiling no where did I discuss race. In my opinion a thug is someone who beats people for no reason, carjacks, robs people etc. I am.all for support programs but not at the cost of decriminalization and protected the thugs. As a teen I couldn't imagine beating people up as I knew once I am.home there would be serious consequences. I am tired of this narrative that we need to think about the thugs wellbeing how about hard working taxpayers?

I welcome your suggestions on how you think the city van do a better job and how you see it will help. Social programs takes years to make change untill then what do we do?

Of course it will take a long time to dismantle systemic racism. Police brutality is not the answer.

What we need is more funding for violence interrupters. More affordable housing. More wrap-around services. But also fewer bigots like you.

It's not bigotry to view incarceration as appropriate for violent criminals.

We do incarcerated violent criminals. We just don’t incarcerate them before they are violent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Violent crimes in DC, by year:
1992 16,680
2002 9,109
2012 6,963
2022 3,820

Crime is not increasing in DC. It's not even increasing in the short run, 2021 was 4118. Crime has declined in 26 of the past 30 years.

Source: MPD annual reports

Shhhhhh it doesn’t fit their agenda

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Violent crimes in DC, by year:
1992 16,680
2002 9,109
2012 6,963
2022 3,820

Crime is not increasing in DC. It's not even increasing in the short run, 2021 was 4118. Crime has declined in 26 of the past 30 years.

Source: MPD annual reports

Interesting how a post rich in actual facts gets little attention.

There are reasons to be skeptical of these numbers. This kind of data is easily manipulated by, for example, downplaying certain crimes as misdemeanors, failing to take reports, etc.

Do you have better data? Please provide.

Murders are harder to sweep under the rug


2011 108
2012 88
2013 103
2014 105
2015 162
2016 136
2017 116
2018 160
2019 166
2020 198
2021 226

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Washington,_D.C.

Lol you forgot

1989 434
1990 472
1991 482
1992 443
1993 454
1994 399
1995 360
1996 397
1997 301
1998 260
1999 241
2000 239
2001 241
2002 264
2003 249
2004 198
2005 195
2006 169
2007 181
2008 186
2009 145
2010 132

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

Decades of studies show you are wrong. Mere police presence stops crime, and they don't even have to arrest people. They just have to be there.

Ideally, we as a community would solve concentrated poverty, which is the real problem. But we don't.

Secondarily, we as a community must have adequate responses to respond to people in crisis. And someone holding a knife to their mom's throat or using a machete to carjack a car are community crises. It creates neighborhoods of fear, and that pervasive fear is very damaging to the people who live there. That alone contributes to our systemic disparities. Pull police out and the two remaining solutions are vigilante justice (which we are seeing much more of) or military intervention.

Invest in communities and invest in good policing. That's the only way to stop this.

I agree with you, however how do we invest in communities who don't want to.play their party i.e. be a good parent, responsible etc? Mist crime in DC is committed by young kids and if locking them up is not an option then how do we address the lack of parental support?

Your post is one long racist dog whistle. Why not try helping systemically oppressed communities for a change?

Not everything is about race. I ask a serious question how do we make up for lack of parental control? How is it fair a good family was beaten up in broad daylight by a thug? I honestly don't know how we can make any progress against crime and safety if the buck stops with oppression, profiling etc? I welcome your suggestions.

All I want is to feel safe and protected when I am doing everything right.

When you say "parental control" and "thugs" those are dog whistles right there. We all know what you mean. Don't be obtuse. The solution is to support programs that help underserved communities (violence interrupters, addressing police brutality, criminal justice reform), even if that should cost you a little more in taxes.

You are profiling no where did I discuss race. In my opinion a thug is someone who beats people for no reason, carjacks, robs people etc. I am.all for support programs but not at the cost of decriminalization and protected the thugs. As a teen I couldn't imagine beating people up as I knew once I am.home there would be serious consequences. I am tired of this narrative that we need to think about the thugs wellbeing how about hard working taxpayers?

I welcome your suggestions on how you think the city van do a better job and how you see it will help. Social programs takes years to make change untill then what do we do?

Of course it will take a long time to dismantle systemic racism. Police brutality is not the answer.

What we need is more funding for violence interrupters. More affordable housing. More wrap-around services. But also fewer bigots like you.

It's not bigotry to view incarceration as appropriate for violent criminals.

We do incarcerated violent criminals. We just don’t incarcerate them before they are violent.

Hmmmm...when teens commit violent crimes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

Holy hell! I know this is a hot button subject and a tragedy all around but can we please just wait for all the facts before jumping to conclusions?

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to reduce crime in dc you have to bring back nyc stop and frisk. You have to have cops on the ground 24/7 walking the beat and being present.

And as others have said, dc, md, va. They all need strong constitutional carry and stand your ground and 100% homestead/ property protection.

If I blow away some punk caught breaking into my car, the only thing I should ever have to deal with is a big thank you for taking out the trash.

No threat of jail, prosecution, etc. 100% protection from any and all recourse.

Then DC will become safer.

You sound like George Zimmerman.

Holy hell! I know this is a hot button subject and a tragedy all around but can we please just wait for all the facts before jumping to conclusions?

No to stop and frisk. If you want stop and frisk, have a chat with your friends who are black. If you don't have friends who are black, ask yourself why you live in a bubble and change that.

No to killing someone just for a car break in when a life is not in danger.

Whoops! Meant to add this on at the bottom. Holy hell! I know this is a hot button subject and a tragedy all around but can we please just wait for all the facts before jumping to conclusions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real answer is that cops do not stop crime they never have and they never will. Cops apprehend and the court system punishes. Cops don’t even punish, that is the court system.

Social services do stop crimes, jobs, education, mental health support, community centers, churches, etc.

The things that stop crime have broken down and that is why crime is up.

You omitted PARENTS.

Who do u think needs to consume the social services? An infant? SMFH

Parents themselves need to be included for stopping crimes by actually parenting and raising children who know right from wrong.