Thoughts on the L&D nurse “ick” tiktok

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.

Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.

Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.

How trashy. Hope you're proud.

I'm neither trashy nor proud. A significant minority of all family members of adult ICU patients are pretty awful people. You know who IS proud? Them. They are out and proud with their disrespect, their combativeness, their defiance, their sheer stupidity, their selfishness and so on.

Sounds like you and others would be surprised at how little these "family" members care about intubated, sedated Grandma terminally lying there in the bed. How they eat her food tray (free food!) because she's, you know, intubated. They interrupt the social worker to make sure they'll keep getting Grandma's disability checks that they divert to their own use in another state. They smoke weed in the bathroom. Sometimes they'll smuggle street drugs in FOR the patient.

Do you really think it makes us trashy to commiserate about the above privately in the bathroom? Ok.

I believe you. As an educator, I observe and hear plenty, too. Nonetheless, I would not share or laugh about it on public media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.

Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.

Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.

How trashy. Hope you're proud.

I'm neither trashy nor proud. A significant minority of all family members of adult ICU patients are pretty awful people. You know who IS proud? Them. They are out and proud with their disrespect, their combativeness, their defiance, their sheer stupidity, their selfishness and so on.

Sounds like you and others would be surprised at how little these "family" members care about intubated, sedated Grandma terminally lying there in the bed. How they eat her food tray (free food!) because she's, you know, intubated. They interrupt the social worker to make sure they'll keep getting Grandma's disability checks that they divert to their own use in another state. They smoke weed in the bathroom. Sometimes they'll smuggle street drugs in FOR the patient.

Do you really think it makes us trashy to commiserate about the above privately in the bathroom? Ok.

I believe you. As an educator, I observe and hear plenty, too. Nonetheless, I would not share or laugh about it on public media.

PP here. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything even anonymously on DCUM. I love what I do on some level and I'm really, really good at it. I go to great lengths to advocate for my (silent, sedated) patients and I will stay late to talk with any and all civil, baseline respectful family members.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.

Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.

Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.

How trashy. Hope you're proud.

I'm neither trashy nor proud. A significant minority of all family members of adult ICU patients are pretty awful people. You know who IS proud? Them. They are out and proud with their disrespect, their combativeness, their defiance, their sheer stupidity, their selfishness and so on.

Sounds like you and others would be surprised at how little these "family" members care about intubated, sedated Grandma terminally lying there in the bed. How they eat her food tray (free food!) because she's, you know, intubated. They interrupt the social worker to make sure they'll keep getting Grandma's disability checks that they divert to their own use in another state. They smoke weed in the bathroom. Sometimes they'll smuggle street drugs in FOR the patient.

Do you really think it makes us trashy to commiserate about the above privately in the bathroom? Ok.

I believe you. As an educator, I observe and hear plenty, too. Nonetheless, I would not share or laugh about it on public media.

PP here. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything even anonymously on DCUM. I love what I do on some level and I'm really, really good at it. I go to great lengths to advocate for my (silent, sedated) patients and I will stay late to talk with any and all civil, baseline respectful family members.

PP here. We have 3 nurses in our family, and I have the highest respect for what most nurses do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.

Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.

Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.

I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.

Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.

Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.

Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.

Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.

Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.

First off, who are you to determine if a family is acting a fool as you say? If they are 1. dangerous to themselves or others 2. making it difficult for patients to rest 3. physically or verbally assaulting staff or patients or other family members that is unacceptable. Anything else is mouth closed. You can complain about family. Dont utter a word about patients and their conditions/etc outside of medically necessary sharing of info. You are repugnant. Go see a therapist and talk it out.

And who are you to determine how a stressed healthcare worker can blow off steam? Gossiping in the break room is way better (and a lot cheaper) than therapy.
Your superior attitude is repugnant.

I’m a patient with relevant rights under federal law. You, as a health care provider, are responsible for upholding those rights. That’s how a “profession” works.

Lol so doctors and nurses aren't allowed to eye roll about you in the break room. Got it. Because, federal law

NP. Break room is one thing. The internet is another.

I work in healthcare in a non-clinical role and I find these videos appalling. I do understand how overworked nurses are. That is absolutely no excuse. These nurses would be fired from my hospital immediately.

Being stressed is not a license to drop your professional veil.

Another hospital would run to hire them. If I were a betting person, I would bet Emory rehires them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.

Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.

Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.

I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.

Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.

Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.

Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.

Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.

Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.

First off, who are you to determine if a family is acting a fool as you say? If they are 1. dangerous to themselves or others 2. making it difficult for patients to rest 3. physically or verbally assaulting staff or patients or other family members that is unacceptable. Anything else is mouth closed. You can complain about family. Dont utter a word about patients and their conditions/etc outside of medically necessary sharing of info. You are repugnant. Go see a therapist and talk it out.

And who are you to determine how a stressed healthcare worker can blow off steam? Gossiping in the break room is way better (and a lot cheaper) than therapy.
Your superior attitude is repugnant.

I’m a patient with relevant rights under federal law. You, as a health care provider, are responsible for upholding those rights. That’s how a “profession” works.

These rights do not include treating hosistsgf like your personal servants, screaming, and making demands and taking up their time with personal errands for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.

Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.

Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.

I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.

Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.

Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.

Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.

Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.

Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.

First off, who are you to determine if a family is acting a fool as you say? If they are 1. dangerous to themselves or others 2. making it difficult for patients to rest 3. physically or verbally assaulting staff or patients or other family members that is unacceptable. Anything else is mouth closed. You can complain about family. Dont utter a word about patients and their conditions/etc outside of medically necessary sharing of info. You are repugnant. Go see a therapist and talk it out.

And who are you to determine how a stressed healthcare worker can blow off steam? Gossiping in the break room is way better (and a lot cheaper) than therapy.
Your superior attitude is repugnant.

I’m a patient with relevant rights under federal law. You, as a health care provider, are responsible for upholding those rights. That’s how a “profession” works.

These rights do not include treating hosistsgf like your personal servants, screaming, and making demands and taking up their time with personal errands for you.

I’m a manager and part of my duties involve managing our customer call center. When we get complaints from a customer about the way they were treated, the employee who handled the call almost always believes they were fully within their “rights” to yell at them or treat them unkindly back. I listen back to the calls…yes sometimes the customer starts it or says something unkind first but it almost always elevates due to one of our own employees. I can’t believe the things I hear them say to customers that they think was perfectly fine because “they caused it.”

Bottom line, if you believe you are constantly being treated poorly, you are likely playing victim in your mind and have absolutely no right to treat others as I am pretty sure I know how you’re treating them.

[Anonymous]

I don't begrudge healthcare professionals venting about their patients. The place for that is the break room, not putting it on blast all over TikTok or other social media. These nurses were rightfully fired for being idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a veteran ICU nurse.

Then you all really, really don't want to know what we say about you family members of the critically ill -- out of earshot.

Their mistake was blabbering in a showy public way.

I know you all have a stressful job, but you have no right to mock and criticize people who are trying their best to navigate a stressful situation, even if their behavior appears inappropriate to you. Find a new line of work.

Actually, we do have that right. Free speech and all.

Ummm... you can have free speech as an unemployed person.

Look, if every nurse or physician was fired for talking bad about patient families then there would be no nurses or physicians left.

Nope. I know some wonderful people in the medical profession who do not talk trash about the people they care for. You just run with a terrible crowd.

Alright, you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Just know if you’re in critical care and your family member is acting a fool, the whole floor has heard about it at the break room or nurse’s station.

First off, who are you to determine if a family is acting a fool as you say? If they are 1. dangerous to themselves or others 2. making it difficult for patients to rest 3. physically or verbally assaulting staff or patients or other family members that is unacceptable. Anything else is mouth closed. You can complain about family. Dont utter a word about patients and their conditions/etc outside of medically necessary sharing of info. You are repugnant. Go see a therapist and talk it out.

And who are you to determine how a stressed healthcare worker can blow off steam? Gossiping in the break room is way better (and a lot cheaper) than therapy.
Your superior attitude is repugnant.

I’m a patient with relevant rights under federal law. You, as a health care provider, are responsible for upholding those rights. That’s how a “profession” works.

Lol so doctors and nurses aren't allowed to eye roll about you in the break room. Got it. Because, federal law

NP. Break room is one thing. The internet is another.

I work in healthcare in a non-clinical role and I find these videos appalling. I do understand how overworked nurses are. That is absolutely no excuse. These nurses would be fired from my hospital immediately.

Being stressed is not a license to drop your professional veil.

Another hospital would run to hire them. If I were a betting person, I would bet Emory rehires them.

Subsequent coverage has been that the L&D ward in Emory has a problem of long standing with L&D care and Georgia does have the worst maternal mortality in the country: https://atlanta.capitalbnews.org/emory-midtown-tiktok/

So no I don’t think these nurses are getting their jobs back.

As a society we push nurses to work understaffed and underpaid and then wonder why it’s not attracting more emotionally intelligent and compassionate people as a field.