Virginia Tech SAT Scores

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Anonymous wrote:At least the acceptance rate for in state males went from 25% to 35% in 2022 for engineering.

But there are MANY more OOS students in engineering than Virginia. Something like 60 percent + are OOS. That's not right for the only polytechnic public university in the Commonwealth to be doing this.

Wrong. It's 43% OOS in engineering.

https://eng.vt.edu/about/student-facts-and-figures.html

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Did all these 1500 SAT applicants apply EA? I would guess not. They likely applied ED or RD. In that case, they were using VT as a back up plan. I don’t find anything wrong with reserving spots for students that actually want to go there. If a 1500 SAT student applied EA, they’d be accepted.

I don’t find accepting high star OOS a problem either. They raise the caliber of the school, increase the reputation of the program, and entice more employers to want VT grads. All the whole providing a high caliber engineering experience for Virginia students with a demonstrated interest in attending VT.

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Anonymous wrote:Did all these 1500 SAT applicants apply EA? I would guess not. They likely applied ED or RD. In that case, they were using VT as a back up plan. I don’t find anything wrong with reserving spots for students that actually want to go there. If a 1500 SAT student applied EA, they’d be accepted.

I don’t find accepting high star OOS a problem either. They raise the caliber of the school, increase the reputation of the program, and entice more employers to want VT grads. All the whole providing a high caliber engineering experience for Virginia students with a demonstrated interest in attending VT. [/quote

I agree. Though I think the bolded statement was written backwards. Did you mean they likely applied EA or RD? I have no problem with schools showing preference for ED applicants who are clearly saying that school is their 1st choice. It's funny that posters talking about W&M make no bones about the fact that WM shows huge preference for ED applicants - kids who WANT to be there. Why should VT be any different?

The parents who are upset are those who kids used VT as a safety, when it's anything but. They assumed their kids would get in if their Plan A failed, but that's just not the case. And that's not VT's fault - it's the fault of student who didn't apply ED. Which isn't to say ALL ED applicants are admitted, but it certainly helps.

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Anonymous wrote:Did all these 1500 SAT applicants apply EA? I would guess not. They likely applied ED or RD. In that case, they were using VT as a back up plan. I don’t find anything wrong with reserving spots for students that actually want to go there. If a 1500 SAT student applied EA, they’d be accepted.

I don’t find accepting high star OOS a problem either. They raise the caliber of the school, increase the reputation of the program, and entice more employers to want VT grads. All the whole providing a high caliber engineering experience for Virginia students with a demonstrated interest in attending VT.

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I agree. Though I think the bolded statement was written backwards. Did you mean they likely applied EA or RD? I have no problem with schools showing preference for ED applicants who are clearly saying that school is their 1st choice. It's funny that posters talking about W&M make no bones about the fact that WM shows huge preference for ED applicants - kids who WANT to be there. Why should VT be any different?

The parents who are upset are those who kids used VT as a safety, when it's anything but. They assumed their kids would get in if their Plan A failed, but that's just not the case. And that's not VT's fault - it's the fault of student who didn't apply ED. Which isn't to say ALL ED applicants are admitted, but it certainly helps.

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Anonymous wrote:Did all these 1500 SAT applicants apply EA? I would guess not. They likely applied ED or RD. In that case, they were using VT as a back up plan. I don’t find anything wrong with reserving spots for students that actually want to go there. If a 1500 SAT student applied EA, they’d be accepted.

I don’t find accepting high star OOS a problem either. They raise the caliber of the school, increase the reputation of the program, and entice more employers to want VT grads. All the whole providing a high caliber engineering experience for Virginia students with a demonstrated interest in attending VT.

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I agree. Though I think the bolded statement was written backwards. Did you mean they likely applied EA or RD? I have no problem with schools showing preference for ED applicants who are clearly saying that school is their 1st choice. It's funny that posters talking about W&M make no bones about the fact that WM shows huge preference for ED applicants - kids who WANT to be there. Why should VT be any different?

The parents who are upset are those who kids used VT as a safety, when it's anything but. They assumed their kids would get in if their Plan A failed, but that's just not the case. And that's not VT's fault - it's the fault of student who didn't apply ED. Which isn't to say ALL ED applicants are admitted, but it certainly helps.

I don't think public Us should be using ED at all and Virginia is really unusual in having so many of its public Us with ED.

ED is generally not good for students, just an anti-competitive benefit for the colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:Did all these 1500 SAT applicants apply EA? I would guess not. They likely applied ED or RD. In that case, they were using VT as a back up plan. I don’t find anything wrong with reserving spots for students that actually want to go there. If a 1500 SAT student applied EA, they’d be accepted.

I don’t find accepting high star OOS a problem either. They raise the caliber of the school, increase the reputation of the program, and entice more employers to want VT grads. All the whole providing a high caliber engineering experience for Virginia students with a demonstrated interest in attending VT.

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I agree. Though I think the bolded statement was written backwards. Did you mean they likely applied EA or RD? I have no problem with schools showing preference for ED applicants who are clearly saying that school is their 1st choice. It's funny that posters talking about W&M make no bones about the fact that WM shows huge preference for ED applicants - kids who WANT to be there. Why should VT be any different?

The parents who are upset are those who kids used VT as a safety, when it's anything but. They assumed their kids would get in if their Plan A failed, but that's just not the case. And that's not VT's fault - it's the fault of student who didn't apply ED. Which isn't to say ALL ED applicants are admitted, but it certainly helps.

I don't think public Us should be using ED at all and Virginia is really unusual in having so many of its public Us with ED.

ED is generally not good for students, just an anti-competitive benefit for the colleges.

I completely disagree. ED is very good for students who have a clear first choice school. It benefits them AND it benefits the school, since they can get a firm reading on how many will be attending (of those they accept). Why shouldn't schools want kids who want them?

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Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Fall 2022 entering class: 45,185 applicants and 25,799 acceptances = 57% acceptance rate

https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/06/em-fall2022snapshot.html

You cannot use percentage of admittances to compare public schools to privates because public school applicants are self-selected by the student with the assistance of SCHEv and Naviance and directed by their public high school counselors to the best suited public universities. Same with other state run public universities.

Then why is the acceptance rate for UVA so much lower? (Your argument would apply for that school as well.) Same thing with W&M.

UVA and W&M have really low OOS acceptances rates, dragging down their overall acceptance rates. Tech is the opposite- OOS acceptance rate is higher and brings their overall acceptance rates up. At my kids private, the UVA acceptance rates was 27% last year. W&M and Tech were both 39%.

Sorry, that should say at my kid’s public school…

The thing about VT is that there is such a big disparity between acceptance rates for different majors. For example, it's probably harder to get into VT engineering from in-state than into W&M, but definitely easier to get into numerous majors in the College of Arts and Sciences, etc. in-state than into W&M.

W&M has higher SATs and GPAs than VT engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't represent the entire state - hell it doesn't even represent Fairfax County.

I didn't say it represented the entire state. Dear Lord. I was simply speculating that high stat kids in NOVA were getting turned off to Tech engineering by their recent admission trends focusing on first gen. Simply used recent TJ numbers as an example.

Only the bottom TJ kids are even interested in VaTech. In fact, TJ grads are NOT interested in colleges/universities period including UVA since it has weak CS/Engineering.

49 of the TJ class of 2022 are attending UVA, 26 W&M, and 7 VT. And VT is by far the largest of those 3.

Link?

It is from the TJ Today senior issue.

https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined

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Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Fall 2022 entering class: 45,185 applicants and 25,799 acceptances = 57% acceptance rate

https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/06/em-fall2022snapshot.html

You cannot use percentage of admittances to compare public schools to privates because public school applicants are self-selected by the student with the assistance of SCHEv and Naviance and directed by their public high school counselors to the best suited public universities. Same with other state run public universities.

Then why is the acceptance rate for UVA so much lower? (Your argument would apply for that school as well.) Same thing with W&M.

UVA and W&M have really low OOS acceptances rates, dragging down their overall acceptance rates. Tech is the opposite- OOS acceptance rate is higher and brings their overall acceptance rates up. At my kids private, the UVA acceptance rates was 27% last year. W&M and Tech were both 39%.

Sorry, that should say at my kid’s public school…

The thing about VT is that there is such a big disparity between acceptance rates for different majors. For example, it's probably harder to get into VT engineering from in-state than into W&M, but definitely easier to get into numerous majors in the College of Arts and Sciences, etc. in-state than into W&M.

W&M has higher SATs and GPAs than VT engineering.

DP. I highly, highly doubt that. VT engineering applicants have sky high stats. As do many of their other majors. Interestingly, the acceptance rate for both VT and W&M in-state students (2021-22) was exactly the same: 44%.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=231624

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Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Fall 2022 entering class: 45,185 applicants and 25,799 acceptances = 57% acceptance rate

https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/06/em-fall2022snapshot.html

You cannot use percentage of admittances to compare public schools to privates because public school applicants are self-selected by the student with the assistance of SCHEv and Naviance and directed by their public high school counselors to the best suited public universities. Same with other state run public universities.

Then why is the acceptance rate for UVA so much lower? (Your argument would apply for that school as well.) Same thing with W&M.

UVA and W&M have really low OOS acceptances rates, dragging down their overall acceptance rates. Tech is the opposite- OOS acceptance rate is higher and brings their overall acceptance rates up. At my kids private, the UVA acceptance rates was 27% last year. W&M and Tech were both 39%.

Sorry, that should say at my kid’s public school…

The thing about VT is that there is such a big disparity between acceptance rates for different majors. For example, it's probably harder to get into VT engineering from in-state than into W&M, but definitely easier to get into numerous majors in the College of Arts and Sciences, etc. in-state than into W&M.

W&M has higher SATs and GPAs than VT engineering.

DP. I highly, highly doubt that. VT engineering applicants have sky high stats. As do many of their other majors. Interestingly, the acceptance rate for both VT and W&M in-state students (2021-22) was exactly the same: 44%.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=231624

Higher OOS acceptance rate than in state. Tech...bunch of jerks.

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Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Fall 2022 entering class: 45,185 applicants and 25,799 acceptances = 57% acceptance rate

https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/06/em-fall2022snapshot.html

You cannot use percentage of admittances to compare public schools to privates because public school applicants are self-selected by the student with the assistance of SCHEv and Naviance and directed by their public high school counselors to the best suited public universities. Same with other state run public universities.

Then why is the acceptance rate for UVA so much lower? (Your argument would apply for that school as well.) Same thing with W&M.

UVA and W&M have really low OOS acceptances rates, dragging down their overall acceptance rates. Tech is the opposite- OOS acceptance rate is higher and brings their overall acceptance rates up. At my kids private, the UVA acceptance rates was 27% last year. W&M and Tech were both 39%.

Sorry, that should say at my kid’s public school…

The thing about VT is that there is such a big disparity between acceptance rates for different majors. For example, it's probably harder to get into VT engineering from in-state than into W&M, but definitely easier to get into numerous majors in the College of Arts and Sciences, etc. in-state than into W&M.

W&M has higher SATs and GPAs than VT engineering.

DP. I highly, highly doubt that. VT engineering applicants have sky high stats. As do many of their other majors. Interestingly, the acceptance rate for both VT and W&M in-state students (2021-22) was exactly the same: 44%.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=231624

Higher OOS acceptance rate than in state. Tech...bunch of jerks.

Sorry your kid didn’t get in.

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Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Fall 2022 entering class: 45,185 applicants and 25,799 acceptances = 57% acceptance rate

https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/06/em-fall2022snapshot.html

You cannot use percentage of admittances to compare public schools to privates because public school applicants are self-selected by the student with the assistance of SCHEv and Naviance and directed by their public high school counselors to the best suited public universities. Same with other state run public universities.

Then why is the acceptance rate for UVA so much lower? (Your argument would apply for that school as well.) Same thing with W&M.

UVA and W&M have really low OOS acceptances rates, dragging down their overall acceptance rates. Tech is the opposite- OOS acceptance rate is higher and brings their overall acceptance rates up. At my kids private, the UVA acceptance rates was 27% last year. W&M and Tech were both 39%.

Sorry, that should say at my kid’s public school…

The thing about VT is that there is such a big disparity between acceptance rates for different majors. For example, it's probably harder to get into VT engineering from in-state than into W&M, but definitely easier to get into numerous majors in the College of Arts and Sciences, etc. in-state than into W&M.

W&M has higher SATs and GPAs than VT engineering.

DP. I highly, highly doubt that. VT engineering applicants have sky high stats. As do many of their other majors. Interestingly, the acceptance rate for both VT and W&M in-state students (2021-22) was exactly the same: 44%.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=231624

Higher OOS acceptance rate than in state. Tech...bunch of jerks.

Tech has a low OOS yield so they accept more to hit their target. It's pretty expensive from OOS so those students likely have other strong options at better price.

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Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Fall 2022 entering class: 45,185 applicants and 25,799 acceptances = 57% acceptance rate

https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/06/em-fall2022snapshot.html

You cannot use percentage of admittances to compare public schools to privates because public school applicants are self-selected by the student with the assistance of SCHEv and Naviance and directed by their public high school counselors to the best suited public universities. Same with other state run public universities.

Then why is the acceptance rate for UVA so much lower? (Your argument would apply for that school as well.) Same thing with W&M.

UVA and W&M have really low OOS acceptances rates, dragging down their overall acceptance rates. Tech is the opposite- OOS acceptance rate is higher and brings their overall acceptance rates up. At my kids private, the UVA acceptance rates was 27% last year. W&M and Tech were both 39%.

Sorry, that should say at my kid’s public school…

The thing about VT is that there is such a big disparity between acceptance rates for different majors. For example, it's probably harder to get into VT engineering from in-state than into W&M, but definitely easier to get into numerous majors in the College of Arts and Sciences, etc. in-state than into W&M.

W&M has higher SATs and GPAs than VT engineering.

DP. I highly, highly doubt that. VT engineering applicants have sky high stats. As do many of their other majors. Interestingly, the acceptance rate for both VT and W&M in-state students (2021-22) was exactly the same: 44%.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=231624

Higher OOS acceptance rate than in state. Tech...bunch of jerks.

Sorry your kid didn’t get in.

Nice try

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Anonymous wrote:VT has become incredibly competitive. It received a school record 45,214 first-year applications for fall 2022 admission -- an increase of 7 percent over the previous year's record of 42,084 applicants.

The average high school GPA of the Class of 2026 (this year's freshmen) was 4.19 -- a 0.09 increase from last year’s freshman class.

[Both excerpts from articles easily found online]

Personally, I think the admission rate range anywhere from 56% to 68% found online (depending on the source) seems rather high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lower than 50% now.

Fall 2022 entering class: 45,185 applicants and 25,799 acceptances = 57% acceptance rate

https://vtx.vt.edu/articles/2022/06/em-fall2022snapshot.html

You cannot use percentage of admittances to compare public schools to privates because public school applicants are self-selected by the student with the assistance of SCHEv and Naviance and directed by their public high school counselors to the best suited public universities. Same with other state run public universities.

Then why is the acceptance rate for UVA so much lower? (Your argument would apply for that school as well.) Same thing with W&M.

UVA and W&M have really low OOS acceptances rates, dragging down their overall acceptance rates. Tech is the opposite- OOS acceptance rate is higher and brings their overall acceptance rates up. At my kids private, the UVA acceptance rates was 27% last year. W&M and Tech were both 39%.

Sorry, that should say at my kid’s public school…

The thing about VT is that there is such a big disparity between acceptance rates for different majors. For example, it's probably harder to get into VT engineering from in-state than into W&M, but definitely easier to get into numerous majors in the College of Arts and Sciences, etc. in-state than into W&M.

W&M has higher SATs and GPAs than VT engineering.

DP. I highly, highly doubt that. VT engineering applicants have sky high stats. As do many of their other majors. Interestingly, the acceptance rate for both VT and W&M in-state students (2021-22) was exactly the same: 44%.

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=231624

For 2022, VT had a median SAT of 1320 and median GPA of 4.04. W&M was 1460 for SAT and 4.33 for GPA.

Virginia Tech engineering had an average SAT of 1353 and average GPA of 4.08 for the 2021 entering class based on VT's link below. SCHEV doesn't report averages, but W&M median for 2021 was 1440 for SAT and 4.3 for GPA. Over 75% of enrolled W&M students had stats above the VT engineering average.

https://eng.vt.edu/about.html
https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

[Anonymous]

Too bad VA doesn't have any decent universities. UVA is mediocre at best except for law school/business school and those are graduate/professional schools.