Is Georgetown really that much better than BC?

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

Yet another weirdo parent listening in on her children and their friends. So odd.

Crazy ND booster: it’s not listening “in” it’s listening to and talking with — this was a conversation among the girls AND moms. Clearly something you don’t understand. Converse with these 17 yr olds — they have a lot to say.

Wait, you let your 17 yr old express an opinion?

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

Yet another weirdo parent listening in on her children and their friends. So odd.

Crazy ND booster: it’s not listening “in” it’s listening to and talking with — this was a conversation among the girls AND moms. Clearly something you don’t understand. Converse with these 17 yr olds — they have a lot to say.

Yea, I'm sure the girls and their friends love their mothers breathing down their necks about colleges on a summer evening. You clearly are one of THOSE people. I feel sorry for the girls.

Considering yesterday’s news, we’ve been parts of lots of conversation about Indiana. Try it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

Yet another weirdo parent listening in on her children and their friends. So odd.

Crazy ND booster: it’s not listening “in” it’s listening to and talking with — this was a conversation among the girls AND moms. Clearly something you don’t understand. Converse with these 17 yr olds — they have a lot to say.

Wait, you let your 17 yr old express an opinion?

C'mon, girls and moms! It's a beautiful summer night! Let's gather together and talk about our college choices!

Sad.

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LOL some people are just clueless

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=boston+college&with=University+of+Notre+Dame

If accepted both, 93% choose ND, only 7% BC

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

Yet another weirdo parent listening in on her children and their friends. So odd.

Crazy ND booster: it’s not listening “in” it’s listening to and talking with — this was a conversation among the girls AND moms. Clearly something you don’t understand. Converse with these 17 yr olds — they have a lot to say.

Yea, I'm sure the girls and their friends love their mothers breathing down their necks about colleges on a summer evening. You clearly are one of THOSE people. I feel sorry for the girls.

Considering yesterday’s news, we’ve been parts of lots of conversation about Indiana. Try it.

Indiana's abortion laws are not going to affect ND's applications.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

No one ever said that "local kids" who are "competitive for top 20 schools" must include ND on their list. We're talking about BC versus ND. They have many, many cross-applicants, and the overwhelming majority of kids accepted to both choose ND.

Nice try. If ND doesn’t make their list, then we are not talking about cross-applicants. Except for you, other pps mentioned their kids and friends did not have ND on their list.

Why are you talking about ND if it didn't even make their list? Now THAT's bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL some people are just clueless

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=boston+college&with=University+of+Notre+Dame

If accepted both, 93% choose ND, only 7% BC

Oh wow...I was just going to look that up...didn't expect the numbers to be so wide.

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Neither are truly elite.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

No one ever said that "local kids" who are "competitive for top 20 schools" must include ND on their list. We're talking about BC versus ND. They have many, many cross-applicants, and the overwhelming majority of kids accepted to both choose ND.

Nice try. If ND doesn’t make their list, then we are not talking about cross-applicants. Except for you, other pps mentioned their kids and friends did not have ND on their list.

Why are you talking about ND if it didn't even make their list? Now THAT's bizarre.

Please stop. You’re embarrassing the ND alums. Really, making it worse for us.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither are truly elite.

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Anonymous wrote:Neither are truly elite.

“Is” - must have gone to an “elite.”

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

BC is great, but the fact your child is applying ED there is meaningful for this comparison: Georgetown has no ED, so the difference in admissions selectivity between the two schools is even greater than would be indicated by simply comparing overall admissions rates.

Selective ≠ Quality

Yes, but selectivity has to be at least a component of any “on par” comparison. This isn’t a zero sum, selectivity vs. quality game. As for “quality,” I don’t know Georgetown well enough to compare it to BC; I will let other posters do that. But I can definitely compare the “quality” of BC to Holy Cross, another Massachusetts private Catholic school — and BC loses on that front.

How so?

Also, you cannot lump BC into "another Catholic School" category. Jesuits will fight you over this. And fairly so, IMO.

BC and HC are considered very equal in that geographical area.

GU is in a class by itself, but there is a poster who does NOT want to hear it.

HC was a safety for my son. BC a target. He ended up at ND. HC not in same league as BC and DS didn’t bother to apply. Too small.

Of course HC is smaller than BC. Their prestige is about equal. Northerners aren't generally much interested in Southern schools.

No they are not equal lol. I'm from Boston area and I can tell you HC is not even close to the same level as BC. It just isn't.

Holy Cross is not in the “Boston area,” so of course you would think that. The two are indeed relatively close in terms of “prestige” — although BC is certainly now more “selective.” Historically, BC has a lot in common with NYU and Northeastern: they were commuter schools. Partly for that reason, BC is still a better place for more vocationally-oriented majors like business. If you want to study classics or something intellectual, go to Holy Cross.

Another consideration: where does BC fit into the hierarchy of greater Boston, mid-size universities? There’s MIT and Harvard. Then the rising Northeastern, Tufts, Boston University, and BC. An argument can be made that BC is 3rd — or, just as convincingly, that it is 4th, 5th, or even 6th.
No such issue with Georgetown: in DC it reigns supreme. Another factor when comparing BC to the likes of Georgetown that should at least be considered...

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

BC is great, but the fact your child is applying ED there is meaningful for this comparison: Georgetown has no ED, so the difference in admissions selectivity between the two schools is even greater than would be indicated by simply comparing overall admissions rates.

Selective ≠ Quality

Yes, but selectivity has to be at least a component of any “on par” comparison. This isn’t a zero sum, selectivity vs. quality game. As for “quality,” I don’t know Georgetown well enough to compare it to BC; I will let other posters do that. But I can definitely compare the “quality” of BC to Holy Cross, another Massachusetts private Catholic school — and BC loses on that front.

How so?

Also, you cannot lump BC into "another Catholic School" category. Jesuits will fight you over this. And fairly so, IMO.

BC and HC are considered very equal in that geographical area.

GU is in a class by itself, but there is a poster who does NOT want to hear it.

HC was a safety for my son. BC a target. He ended up at ND. HC not in same league as BC and DS didn’t bother to apply. Too small.

Of course HC is smaller than BC. Their prestige is about equal. Northerners aren't generally much interested in Southern schools.

No they are not equal lol. I'm from Boston area and I can tell you HC is not even close to the same level as BC. It just isn't.

Holy Cross is not in the “Boston area,” so of course you would think that. The two are indeed relatively close in terms of “prestige” — although BC is certainly now more “selective.” Historically, BC has a lot in common with NYU and Northeastern: they were commuter schools. Partly for that reason, BC is still a better place for more vocationally-oriented majors like business. If you want to study classics or something intellectual, go to Holy Cross.

Another consideration: where does BC fit into the hierarchy of greater Boston, mid-size universities? There’s MIT and Harvard. Then the rising Northeastern, Tufts, Boston University, and BC. An argument can be made that BC is 3rd — or, just as convincingly, that it is 4th, 5th, or even 6th.
No such issue with Georgetown: in DC it reigns supreme. Another factor when comparing BC to the likes of Georgetown that should at least be considered...

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=College+of+the+Holy+Cross&with=Boston+College

When choosing between HC and BC, 77% choose BC.

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

BC is great, but the fact your child is applying ED there is meaningful for this comparison: Georgetown has no ED, so the difference in admissions selectivity between the two schools is even greater than would be indicated by simply comparing overall admissions rates.

Selective ≠ Quality

Yes, but selectivity has to be at least a component of any “on par” comparison. This isn’t a zero sum, selectivity vs. quality game. As for “quality,” I don’t know Georgetown well enough to compare it to BC; I will let other posters do that. But I can definitely compare the “quality” of BC to Holy Cross, another Massachusetts private Catholic school — and BC loses on that front.

How so?

Also, you cannot lump BC into "another Catholic School" category. Jesuits will fight you over this. And fairly so, IMO.

BC and HC are considered very equal in that geographical area.

GU is in a class by itself, but there is a poster who does NOT want to hear it.

HC was a safety for my son. BC a target. He ended up at ND. HC not in same league as BC and DS didn’t bother to apply. Too small.

Of course HC is smaller than BC. Their prestige is about equal. Northerners aren't generally much interested in Southern schools.

No they are not equal lol. I'm from Boston area and I can tell you HC is not even close to the same level as BC. It just isn't.

Well, that's a new thing then. Because they always have been considered to be on the same level and get many, many cross applicants.

No LOL
BC is rich/match and HC is a safety for the cross applicatns.

It may be that way now, but historically it wasn't. No way.

I spent the weekend with my dad, who graduated from college in 1961. He attended Jesuit schools in the NE for high school, college, and law school. He insists that Holy Cross was always higher ranked than BC and was surprised to see that recent admissions data does not bear that out. (He didn't attend either school so no dog in that fight.)

Ha! My dad that attended all Jesuit schools from grammar to graduate school in the NE would fight him on that one. He was a proud BC alum.

Depends how old your Dad is. There is no question that Holy Cross used to be considered the better school — until the 80s. Holy Cross — the most prestigious of the Catholic school sports programs at the time — decided not to be a founding member of the Big East in the late 70s because it wanted to focus on academics. The rest, as they say, is history...