Is Georgetown really that much better than BC?

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

BC is great, but the fact your child is applying ED there is meaningful for this comparison: Georgetown has no ED, so the difference in admissions selectivity between the two schools is even greater than would be indicated by simply comparing overall admissions rates.

Selective ≠ Quality

Yes, but selectivity has to be at least a component of any “on par” comparison. This isn’t a zero sum, selectivity vs. quality game. As for “quality,” I don’t know Georgetown well enough to compare it to BC; I will let other posters do that. But I can definitely compare the “quality” of BC to Holy Cross, another Massachusetts private Catholic school — and BC loses on that front.

How so?

Also, you cannot lump BC into "another Catholic School" category. Jesuits will fight you over this. And fairly so, IMO.

BC and HC are considered very equal in that geographical area.

GU is in a class by itself, but there is a poster who does NOT want to hear it.

HC was a safety for my son. BC a target. He ended up at ND. HC not in same league as BC and DS didn’t bother to apply. Too small.

Of course HC is smaller than BC. Their prestige is about equal. Northerners aren't generally much interested in Southern schools.

No they are not equal lol. I'm from Boston area and I can tell you HC is not even close to the same level as BC. It just isn't.

Well, that's a new thing then. Because they always have been considered to be on the same level and get many, many cross applicants.

No LOL
BC is rich/match and HC is a safety for the cross applicatns.

It may be that way now, but historically it wasn't. No way.

I spent the weekend with my dad, who graduated from college in 1961. He attended Jesuit schools in the NE for high school, college, and law school. He insists that Holy Cross was always higher ranked than BC and was surprised to see that recent admissions data does not bear that out. (He didn't attend either school so no dog in that fight.)

Ha! My dad that attended all Jesuit schools from grammar to graduate school in the NE would fight him on that one. He was a proud BC alum.

Oh and he met my mom in Boston while a grad student there abs my whole life I heard about his Boston exploits. Good times apparently.

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Georgetown is on the list as a target. ND isn’t. ND is one of the most overrated schools, especially here on DCUM.

ND Mendoza is not a target.

Fixed it for you


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They are clearly minorities.

NP. I don't think so as my DD and friends are also not interested in ND. It's a great school, but South Bend isn't appealing to every kid.

Sure BC is in better location, but ND >>> BC
A few people would pick BC over ND for location but that's minority.

So you keep saying. But no one’s agreeing with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

BC is great, but the fact your child is applying ED there is meaningful for this comparison: Georgetown has no ED, so the difference in admissions selectivity between the two schools is even greater than would be indicated by simply comparing overall admissions rates.

Selective ≠ Quality

Yes, but selectivity has to be at least a component of any “on par” comparison. This isn’t a zero sum, selectivity vs. quality game. As for “quality,” I don’t know Georgetown well enough to compare it to BC; I will let other posters do that. But I can definitely compare the “quality” of BC to Holy Cross, another Massachusetts private Catholic school — and BC loses on that front.

How so?

Also, you cannot lump BC into "another Catholic School" category. Jesuits will fight you over this. And fairly so, IMO.

BC and HC are considered very equal in that geographical area.

GU is in a class by itself, but there is a poster who does NOT want to hear it.

HC was a safety for my son. BC a target. He ended up at ND. HC not in same league as BC and DS didn’t bother to apply. Too small.

Of course HC is smaller than BC. Their prestige is about equal. Northerners aren't generally much interested in Southern schools.

No they are not equal lol. I'm from Boston area and I can tell you HC is not even close to the same level as BC. It just isn't.

Well, that's a new thing then. Because they always have been considered to be on the same level and get many, many cross applicants.

No LOL
BC is rich/match and HC is a safety for the cross applicatns.

It may be that way now, but historically it wasn't. No way.

I spent the weekend with my dad, who graduated from college in 1961. He attended Jesuit schools in the NE for high school, college, and law school. He insists that Holy Cross was always higher ranked than BC and was surprised to see that recent admissions data does not bear that out. (He didn't attend either school so no dog in that fight.)

Ha! My dad that attended all Jesuit schools from grammar to graduate school in the NE would fight him on that one. He was a proud BC alum.

OF COURSE someone who went to BC is going to say BC is "better"!

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Georgetown is on the list as a target. ND isn’t. ND is one of the most overrated schools, especially here on DCUM.

ND Mendoza is not a target.

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You are totally wrong.
Looks like you are familiar with WSO.
Are you acting dumb or what??

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/school/undergraduate-target-schools-tier-list-2022-updates

I can't think of any list or rank where ND is not a target.






Since you put a WSO link

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They are clearly minorities.

NP. I don't think so as my DD and friends are also not interested in ND. It's a great school, but South Bend isn't appealing to every kid.

Sure BC is in better location, but ND >>> BC
A few people would pick BC over ND for location but that's minority.

So you keep saying. But no one’s agreeing with you.

You are simply delusional. Wake up.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame
Georgetown
Boston College
Villanova

were on my kids list. mostly considering intended major program.
It had nothing to do with religious factor.
religion was the last factor or none factor.

Ended up attending Notre Dame Mendoza

My kid has basically the same list. Absolutely loves Boston (the city) and BC (the school) so is applying there ED1. Perhaps also Providence and Fordham as EA schools. It is just a coincidence that the top schools on their list are Catholic; really just wanted mid-size-ish schools with undergrad finance programs in cities.

ND/Mendoza is far and away the best of the bunch for business. But, hey, I hope your kid enjoys the city.

Loves cities. Wouldn't even apply to the ND summer leadership seminars - that's how much they don't want to be in South Bend or in the Midwest. Glad to hear your kid is happy there

I don't have a kid at ND. I'm just saying: no one turns down ND for BC. And that no one turns down ND for BC despite ND being in South Bend and BC being in Boston speaks volumes about how much better ND is.

Wrong. DS, attending Catholic HS, competitive for both & full pay, will not even visit Indiana. Been to BC twice. Many of his friends feel the same.

Defense mechanism because he knows the odds are against him. Have the kid apply and get into ND, then get back to us. He doesn't have to visit to apply.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame
Georgetown
Boston College
Villanova

were on my kids list. mostly considering intended major program.
It had nothing to do with religious factor.
religion was the last factor or none factor.

Ended up attending Notre Dame Mendoza

My kid has basically the same list. Absolutely loves Boston (the city) and BC (the school) so is applying there ED1. Perhaps also Providence and Fordham as EA schools. It is just a coincidence that the top schools on their list are Catholic; really just wanted mid-size-ish schools with undergrad finance programs in cities.

ND/Mendoza is far and away the best of the bunch for business. But, hey, I hope your kid enjoys the city.

Loves cities. Wouldn't even apply to the ND summer leadership seminars - that's how much they don't want to be in South Bend or in the Midwest. Glad to hear your kid is happy there

I don't have a kid at ND. I'm just saying: no one turns down ND for BC. And that no one turns down ND for BC despite ND being in South Bend and BC being in Boston speaks volumes about how much better ND is.

Wrong. DS, attending Catholic HS, competitive for both & full pay, will not even visit Indiana. Been to BC twice. Many of his friends feel the same.

My son too, full pay at a top public school. I listen to him and his friends chat about their top choices and ND never comes up.

Full pay is irrelevant when it comes to ND. And you need to stop listening in on your kids and their friends' college conversations. That's just plain weird. I couldn't tell you what any of my four kids' friends' "top choices" are. Weird weird weird.

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Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

Yet another weirdo parent listening in on her children and their friends. So odd.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

No one ever said that "local kids" who are "competitive for top 20 schools" must include ND on their list. We're talking about BC versus ND. They have many, many cross-applicants, and the overwhelming majority of kids accepted to both choose ND.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

Yet another weirdo parent listening in on her children and their friends. So odd.

Crazy ND booster: it’s not listening “in” it’s listening to and talking with — this was a conversation among the girls AND moms. Clearly something you don’t understand. Converse with these 17 yr olds — they have a lot to say.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

No one ever said that "local kids" who are "competitive for top 20 schools" must include ND on their list. We're talking about BC versus ND. They have many, many cross-applicants, and the overwhelming majority of kids accepted to both choose ND.

But but but….the girls are hotter at BC.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

No one ever said that "local kids" who are "competitive for top 20 schools" must include ND on their list. We're talking about BC versus ND. They have many, many cross-applicants, and the overwhelming majority of kids accepted to both choose ND.

Nice try. If ND doesn’t make their list, then we are not talking about cross-applicants. Except for you, other pps mentioned their kids and friends did not have ND on their list.

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Anonymous wrote:Yo crazy ND booster — lots of local kids, competitive for top 20 schools, are passing on ND. DD and friends just last night said they were relieved they never considered going to school in Indiana. ND can be a great school for some and others can choose to skip it. It’s fine. This should not rock your world. No need to challenge every single poster who mentions that it’s not on their kid’s list. More room for you and yours.

Yet another weirdo parent listening in on her children and their friends. So odd.

Crazy ND booster: it’s not listening “in” it’s listening to and talking with — this was a conversation among the girls AND moms. Clearly something you don’t understand. Converse with these 17 yr olds — they have a lot to say.

Yea, I'm sure the girls and their friends love their mothers breathing down their necks about colleges on a summer evening. You clearly are one of THOSE people. I feel sorry for the girls.