Is Georgetown really that much better than BC?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with ND >= GU > BC > HC. Only on DCUM would anyone debate these points. Selectivity matters, because the quality of your fellow students has a tremendous impact on the quality of the education. Sure, it is not everything, but it is important, and the differences in selectivity are huge between these schools.
BC’s undergrad business program is not better than GU’s. Neither is ND’s (at best they would be equal).
BC is on the rise and has a lot going for it, including being fun.
HC is solid academically.

Since selectivity is important, let’s look at BC’s real competition: the other selective universities in greater Boston. Harvard and MIT are in a different world, of course. BC’s real competition is BU, Northeastern, and Tufts. Admissions data is from last year (currently on US News): BU and Northeastern are 20%, Tufts is 16%, and BC is 26%. BC’s selectivity is not “on the rise” compared to this competition. (Northeastern is the school “on the rise” there, and that rise will only continue.) I don’t think selectivity is everything either: BC in my mind is just as or more “prestigious” than Northeastern and BU (though not Tufts). I am simply making the point that the BC/Georgetown “on par” analysis has to factor in internecine battles for prestige where a college is located. (Call this a local battle over future selectivity in the face of a New England demographic crisis, which is exactly what it is.) On that criterion, BC does not fare at all well — and Georgetown does.

US News never has current acceptance rates. For class of 2026:
BC 16%
BU 14%
Northeastern 7%
Georgetown 12%


I agree with other PPs that BC is not a big overlap school for BU and Northeastern - too different. Usually, kids applying to all three don't really know much about them and just want to go to school in Boston. Georgetown and other Jesuit and Catholic schools at varying levels of selectivity tend to be much bigger overlaps for BC.

From these numbers, BC & GT appear closer than anyone here has said.

I don’t care what the numbers say. Georgetown is more selective than BC, period.

So when one is writing, he or she doesn't need to write "period" out. As your writing above exemplifies, it's already there, at the end of the sentence, to signify a declarative statement.

I don't give a flying f*ck what you say, period. Oh, and I'm pretty sure I make more money than you.

You’re vulgar.

And these schools are mostly for Catholics so meh.

This may or may not be true if you are from the DC area. But I assure you, people living in New England — and internationally — who want to go to school in Boston consider BC alongside Northeastern and BU. Those 3 schools are in a competition blood battle (and Northeastern is winning), whether you are aware of it or not.

I think you are wrong here. These schools are very different. I don't know anyone who applied to BC and to BU or Northeastern. Kids usually choose BC or BU based on city or big sports team preference. BU and Northeastern are more similar in terms of being in the city and may have more overlap....and then the choice is usually related to co-op or cost.

One big reason my kid chose Northeastern over BU was because it felt better with actual cohesive campus.
It seemed a good balance of urban school with a relatively nice campus. BC had the best campus but the location was little weird, but the main thing was intended major didn't fit.

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

What is BC?

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

What is BC?

Boston College

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I hate Georgetown like some people hate Duke. I was rejected there in the 1980s. I had to go to Syracuse instead. That being said, I must honestly say Georgetown academically is superior to Boston College on a magnitude of 5x. School of Foreign Service, reputation on Wall Street, pre-law program are solid. My kid goes to a lower tier Ivy and got waitlisted at Georgetown and would have gone there had he gotten in. Thanks to Patrick Ewing and Allen Iverson, it has a brand name, loyal alumni, and school spirit. I hate Georgetown. But can't deny it is desirable. I do like BC and it is solid but it is not Georgetown--in many East Coast eyes if they were to add another ivy league school, it would be Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Georgetown like some people hate Duke. I was rejected there in the 1980s. I had to go to Syracuse instead. That being said, I must honestly say Georgetown academically is superior to Boston College on a magnitude of 5x. School of Foreign Service, reputation on Wall Street, pre-law program are solid. My kid goes to a lower tier Ivy and got waitlisted at Georgetown and would have gone there had he gotten in. Thanks to Patrick Ewing and Allen Iverson, it has a brand name, loyal alumni, and school spirit. I hate Georgetown. But can't deny it is desirable. I do like BC and it is solid but it is not Georgetown--in many East Coast eyes if they were to add another ivy league school, it would be Georgetown.

This makes no sense. They are quite close. BC much better rep on Wall Street. It is also a pit. Dorms are garbage. BC had a great campus. Boston also has it all over DC as a college city. Sorry. Georgetown just sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Georgetown like some people hate Duke. I was rejected there in the 1980s. I had to go to Syracuse instead. That being said, I must honestly say Georgetown academically is superior to Boston College on a magnitude of 5x. School of Foreign Service, reputation on Wall Street, pre-law program are solid. My kid goes to a lower tier Ivy and got waitlisted at Georgetown and would have gone there had he gotten in. Thanks to Patrick Ewing and Allen Iverson, it has a brand name, loyal alumni, and school spirit. I hate Georgetown. But can't deny it is desirable. I do like BC and it is solid but it is not Georgetown--in many East Coast eyes if they were to add another ivy league school, it would be Georgetown.

We didn't really believe that you hated Georgetown the first time you said it. Much less so the second.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Georgetown like some people hate Duke. I was rejected there in the 1980s. I had to go to Syracuse instead. That being said, I must honestly say Georgetown academically is superior to Boston College on a magnitude of 5x. School of Foreign Service, reputation on Wall Street, pre-law program are solid. My kid goes to a lower tier Ivy and got waitlisted at Georgetown and would have gone there had he gotten in. Thanks to Patrick Ewing and Allen Iverson, it has a brand name, loyal alumni, and school spirit. I hate Georgetown. But can't deny it is desirable. I do like BC and it is solid but it is not Georgetown--in many East Coast eyes if they were to add another ivy league school, it would be Georgetown.

We didn't really believe that you hated Georgetown the first time you said it. Much less so the second.

It's true--they rejected me. They rejected one of my kids that applied. I hate them. But can't doubt how good they are. They may have some luster lost from the 80s and 90s but still very good. My kid is at Brown but got waitlisted at Gtown and did not get in. BC is also very good but not a close call in my estimation. Gtown is consistently top 25. I hate to admit it.

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Why all the Gtown hate? What’s wrong with the school?

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Anonymous wrote:Why all the Gtown hate? What’s wrong with the school?

Nothing. I have no affiliation other than having rooted for their basketball teams in the 1980's. It is a great school and the SFS is unrivaled in the US. The rest of it is a "nice" urban school in DC.

There just aren't that many schools if its size that are also in a city.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is vastly better; the schools are not even in the same league.

Don't be silly. Georgetown's SFS is vastly superior to anything else at either place. Otherwise, though, they're roughly equivalent.

I’m about to attend Georgetown this Fall. I agree with you, besides Georgetown’s SFS school, they are virtually the same everywhere else. Extremely similar educations.

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure, I went to GU and my child is applying to BC ED1.

The more I read about BC, the more I feel like it's on par with Georgetown - mainly because I feel Georgetown has declined over the last 25 years or so. Why is GU considered more prestigious?

What is BC?

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Georgetown like some people hate Duke. I was rejected there in the 1980s. I had to go to Syracuse instead. That being said, I must honestly say Georgetown academically is superior to Boston College on a magnitude of 5x. School of Foreign Service, reputation on Wall Street, pre-law program are solid. My kid goes to a lower tier Ivy and got waitlisted at Georgetown and would have gone there had he gotten in. Thanks to Patrick Ewing and Allen Iverson, it has a brand name, loyal alumni, and school spirit. I hate Georgetown. But can't deny it is desirable. I do like BC and it is solid but it is not Georgetown--in many East Coast eyes if they were to add another ivy league school, it would be Georgetown.

I wasn't aware Georgetown had a "pre-law" program. That's a rare thing at quality universities.

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Georgetown on the way down and BC on the way up. It happens.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with ND >= GU > BC > HC. Only on DCUM would anyone debate these points. Selectivity matters, because the quality of your fellow students has a tremendous impact on the quality of the education. Sure, it is not everything, but it is important, and the differences in selectivity are huge between these schools.
BC’s undergrad business program is not better than GU’s. Neither is ND’s (at best they would be equal).
BC is on the rise and has a lot going for it, including being fun.
HC is solid academically.

Since selectivity is important, let’s look at BC’s real competition: the other selective universities in greater Boston. Harvard and MIT are in a different world, of course. BC’s real competition is BU, Northeastern, and Tufts. Admissions data is from last year (currently on US News): BU and Northeastern are 20%, Tufts is 16%, and BC is 26%. BC’s selectivity is not “on the rise” compared to this competition. (Northeastern is the school “on the rise” there, and that rise will only continue.) I don’t think selectivity is everything either: BC in my mind is just as or more “prestigious” than Northeastern and BU (though not Tufts). I am simply making the point that the BC/Georgetown “on par” analysis has to factor in internecine battles for prestige where a college is located. (Call this a local battle over future selectivity in the face of a New England demographic crisis, which is exactly what it is.) On that criterion, BC does not fare at all well — and Georgetown does.

US News never has current acceptance rates. For class of 2026:
BC 16%
BU 14%
Northeastern 7%
Georgetown 12%


I agree with other PPs that BC is not a big overlap school for BU and Northeastern - too different. Usually, kids applying to all three don't really know much about them and just want to go to school in Boston. Georgetown and other Jesuit and Catholic schools at varying levels of selectivity tend to be much bigger overlaps for BC.

From these numbers, BC & GT appear closer than anyone here has said.

I don’t care what the numbers say. Georgetown is more selective than BC, period.

So when one is writing, he or she doesn't need to write "period" out. As your writing above exemplifies, it's already there, at the end of the sentence, to signify a declarative statement.

I don't give a flying f*ck what you say, period. Oh, and I'm pretty sure I make more money than you.

You’re vulgar.

And these schools are mostly for Catholics so meh.

This may or may not be true if you are from the DC area. But I assure you, people living in New England — and internationally — who want to go to school in Boston consider BC alongside Northeastern and BU. Those 3 schools are in a competition blood battle (and Northeastern is winning), whether you are aware of it or not.

While posted a couple of years ago, this is true for my DC who will apply to all 3 this fall.

Northeastern happens to be her favorite but admissions chances might be better at BC or BU.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is vastly better; the schools are not even in the same league.

Don't be silly. Georgetown's SFS is vastly superior to anything else at either place. Otherwise, though, they're roughly equivalent.

I’m about to attend Georgetown this Fall. I agree with you, besides Georgetown’s SFS school, they are virtually the same everywhere else. Extremely similar educations.

1) learn to use a semi-colon — or a period.
2) never say “extremely similar,” for reasons which should be apparent.
3) congrats.