I am Russian, she is Ukrainian, we were friends

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^they aren't really delusional. Deep down they know. They just want to ignore it, keep their heads in the ground and hope that the problem "goes away", and they can get their McDs again soon. Not too dissimilar to the Germans who ignored the atrocities committed against their Jewish neighbors.

And how many Russians do you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^they aren't really delusional. Deep down they know. They just want to ignore it, keep their heads in the ground and hope that the problem "goes away", and they can get their McDs again soon. Not too dissimilar to the Germans who ignored the atrocities committed against their Jewish neighbors.

And how many Russians do you know?

What do you think of the embedded Ostland tweet that you skipped past? How many threads do you need to accept that this appears to be a “special operation” supported by more than an insignificant portion of the Russian population? The negative perception of Russians is killing you but how are you so naive to effectively insist it comes from nowhere and that only professors of the former Soviet bloc or who speak Russian can comment? You do you, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Insight on Where to comes from:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^they aren't really delusional. Deep down they know. They just want to ignore it, keep their heads in the ground and hope that the problem "goes away", and they can get their McDs again soon. Not too dissimilar to the Germans who ignored the atrocities committed against their Jewish neighbors.

And how many Russians do you know?

What do you think of the embedded Ostland tweet that you skipped past? How many threads do you need to accept that this appears to be a “special operation” supported by more than an insignificant portion of the Russian population? The negative perception of Russians is killing you but how are you so naive to effectively insist it comes from nowhere and that only professors of the former Soviet bloc or who speak Russian can comment? You do you, I guess.

I never said any of that. I just asked you a question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^they aren't really delusional. Deep down they know. They just want to ignore it, keep their heads in the ground and hope that the problem "goes away", and they can get their McDs again soon. Not too dissimilar to the Germans who ignored the atrocities committed against their Jewish neighbors.

And how many Russians do you know?

What do you think of the embedded Ostland tweet that you skipped past? How many threads do you need to accept that this appears to be a “special operation” supported by more than an insignificant portion of the Russian population? The negative perception of Russians is killing you but how are you so naive to effectively insist it comes from nowhere and that only professors of the former Soviet bloc or who speak Russian can comment? You do you, I guess.

I never said any of that. I just asked you a question.

I’m not PP so you didn’t ask me a damned thing. And it’s beyond evident that conversation is not what you’re interested in. You want to do some idiotic wannabe gotcha bullshit - oh did you not go to HS with a bunch of Russians and Ukrainians and Lithuanians and Moldovan? No? Then you can’t comment! Whatever, sweetie. This will be fun, to have you repeatedly post over the next couple of years why it’s unfair to hold another soul accountable for the carnage other than Putin. I’m virulently anti war and opposed the Iraq debacle publicly from the start, and I still understand that as an American, atrocities have been executed around the world in my and in the name of my family despite this opposition. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Your former friend is a petty soul who is displacing her feelings of powerlessness and anger onto you, an easy target. She’s not a good person. I am an African who lives abroad because white people raped and destroyed my country for hundreds of years, murdered our democratically elected president and installed a dictator after we fought for independence, and then killed some more. White people, especially America and France, continue to harm my country and to make it impossible for my family back home to live decent lives. I can speak to the pain of fleeing home in terror and never being able to go back. It hurts sometimes to see the prosperity and arrogance of people whose way of life is built on stealing from countries like mine. But I still don’t take it out on individuals. Your former friend isn’t a good person and you can’t trust her again.

It’s hilarious to see Americans posting in this thread as if they have any leg to stand on. May you all live to enjoy your just desserts.

This.

OP good riddance. Your friend is pathetic. You did nothing wrong and you shouldn’t apologize for what your country did anymore than I should apologize for Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen and etc etc etc.

Your friend needs to get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^they aren't really delusional. Deep down they know. They just want to ignore it, keep their heads in the ground and hope that the problem "goes away", and they can get their McDs again soon. Not too dissimilar to the Germans who ignored the atrocities committed against their Jewish neighbors.

And how many Russians do you know?

What do you think of the embedded Ostland tweet that you skipped past? How many threads do you need to accept that this appears to be a “special operation” supported by more than an insignificant portion of the Russian population? The negative perception of Russians is killing you but how are you so naive to effectively insist it comes from nowhere and that only professors of the former Soviet bloc or who speak Russian can comment? You do you, I guess.

I never said any of that. I just asked you a question.

I am a different poster, and I had 4 who I considered friends (not counting casual friends or aquaintances) - going back over 30 years who live outside of russia. How many of them do you think reached out to me since February 24 to ask how my family in Ukraine are? How many posted a single “no war” post on their social media?

Answer: none.

I had non-russian descent colleagues reach out, some even that I didn’t work that long with, parents of my kids classmates, neighbors. My good russian descent friends? Total and complete silence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Your former friend is a petty soul who is displacing her feelings of powerlessness and anger onto you, an easy target. She’s not a good person. I am an African who lives abroad because white people raped and destroyed my country for hundreds of years, murdered our democratically elected president and installed a dictator after we fought for independence, and then killed some more. White people, especially America and France, continue to harm my country and to make it impossible for my family back home to live decent lives. I can speak to the pain of fleeing home in terror and never being able to go back. It hurts sometimes to see the prosperity and arrogance of people whose way of life is built on stealing from countries like mine. But I still don’t take it out on individuals. Your former friend isn’t a good person and you can’t trust her again.

It’s hilarious to see Americans posting in this thread as if they have any leg to stand on. May you all live to enjoy your just desserts.

This.

OP good riddance. Your friend is pathetic. You did nothing wrong and you shouldn’t apologize for what your country did anymore than I should apologize for Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen and etc etc etc.

Your friend needs to get a life.

I kind of agree but also think it’s just too raw right now, and perhaps the friendship can be resumed when her friend isn’t in this first mo th of horror.OP is not at fault of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^they aren't really delusional. Deep down they know. They just want to ignore it, keep their heads in the ground and hope that the problem "goes away", and they can get their McDs again soon. Not too dissimilar to the Germans who ignored the atrocities committed against their Jewish neighbors.

+1

[Anonymous]

the folks bearing the brunt of the war crimes in Ukraine right now are the so called "Russian" population. Talk about a weird thing for Russian people in Russia to be OK with. You are with us or you will cease to exist. So much hate.

[Anonymous]

The Russians will be able to visit China, Syria and other places. I see the travel to eu and west as over for 10 years or so.
They can still go to South America I guess. But they days of Russian athletes playing here and all that are over. I would not be surprised to see green cards pulled fro Russians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reading the attitudes of some of these posters, one can understand the type of thinking that allowed Japanese Americans to be forced into internment camps during WW2.

The people of Russia are victims of their government.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It’s a little unsettling. Some of these posters would have been demanding that Japanese-Americans denounce the Japanese government to prove their loyalty. Holding people guilty based solely on their ethnicity or national background is un-American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Your former friend is a petty soul who is displacing her feelings of powerlessness and anger onto you, an easy target. She’s not a good person. I am an African who lives abroad because white people raped and destroyed my country for hundreds of years, murdered our democratically elected president and installed a dictator after we fought for independence, and then killed some more. White people, especially America and France, continue to harm my country and to make it impossible for my family back home to live decent lives. I can speak to the pain of fleeing home in terror and never being able to go back. It hurts sometimes to see the prosperity and arrogance of people whose way of life is built on stealing from countries like mine. But I still don’t take it out on individuals. Your former friend isn’t a good person and you can’t trust her again.

It’s hilarious to see Americans posting in this thread as if they have any leg to stand on. May you all live to enjoy your just desserts.

This.

OP good riddance. Your friend is pathetic. You did nothing wrong and you shouldn’t apologize for what your country did anymore than I should apologize for Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen and etc etc etc.

Your friend needs to get a life.

Lol, that PP is completely fake and made up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^they aren't really delusional. Deep down they know. They just want to ignore it, keep their heads in the ground and hope that the problem "goes away", and they can get their McDs again soon. Not too dissimilar to the Germans who ignored the atrocities committed against their Jewish neighbors.

And how many Russians do you know?

What do you think of the embedded Ostland tweet that you skipped past? How many threads do you need to accept that this appears to be a “special operation” supported by more than an insignificant portion of the Russian population? The negative perception of Russians is killing you but how are you so naive to effectively insist it comes from nowhere and that only professors of the former Soviet bloc or who speak Russian can comment? You do you, I guess.

I never said any of that. I just asked you a question.

I’m not PP so you didn’t ask me a damned thing. And it’s beyond evident that conversation is not what you’re interested in. You want to do some idiotic wannabe gotcha bullshit - oh did you not go to HS with a bunch of Russians and Ukrainians and Lithuanians and Moldovan? No? Then you can’t comment! Whatever, sweetie. This will be fun, to have you repeatedly post over the next couple of years why it’s unfair to hold another soul accountable for the carnage other than Putin. I’m virulently anti war and opposed the Iraq debacle publicly from the start, and I still understand that as an American, atrocities have been executed around the world in my and in the name of my family despite this opposition. It is what it is.

They have been but you and your family did not suffer for it in any way. Your Visa card kept working.