There are a lot of us libs who wouldn't have our own kids today if it wasn't for IVF. No thanks. |
Does that really exist any more? The court is out and out a political arm of the Republican Party. There are no long any guaranteed rights in this country. Only the one the republicans feel are advantageous for themselves. |
You can't beat gutter trash without getting into the gutter. Do you associate with anyone who associates with Trump supporters? You should have cut them out the day he was elected and used everything you knew to destroy them. Not surprisingly, only POC were willing to do that. If you're not willing to do that, you're part of problem. When Trump won, democracy failed. Our only hope now is to be a more powerful authoritarian state that actually cares about human rights. Or secede, and if we happen to win a Civil War, ffs do not reconstruct the red states. |
It will be available in blue states but not in red states. The red states will most likely pass laws classifying people who were born through IVF as subhuman with no rights. |
What about Joe Manchin? Is this type of democrat the problem? We have no doubt where the “progressives” stand. Will Manchin step up? Do not do count on the “moderates”. |
Hell yes he is the problem. Same with Sinema. Susan Collins. Mitt Romney. The list goes on. Anyone who doesn't step in line to pack the court is the enemy. But none of them give a shit, so you need to make life a living hell for anyone they care about (children, grandchildren, SOs) unless they openly and publicly renounce him (think Mary Trump). Go after Manchin's children's and grandchildren's livelihoods. All's fair in war, and Dems have the money. |
A lot of you libs enabled this shitshow. Them's the breaks. Forcing poor people to have kids against their will? Sorry, but you shouldn't have the privilege of using IVF to have kids anymore. |
NP. The so called “moderates” are a huge part of the problem. That they dare call themselves Democrats is insulting. In fact, they maybe worse than republicans. At least with the repubs, you know where they stand. These pseudo-Dems better start getting on board and proving themselves. |
PP here. In all legal ways, of course. Also, here's a primer on Heather Bresch, one of Manchin's daughter. https://jacobinmag.com/2021/10/joe-manchin-daughter-heather-bresch-mylan-epipen |
Uh, it is the GOP forcing poor people to have kids against their will. WTF are you even talking about? |
I'm saying that if we don't force rich white people (regardless of political affiliation) to suffer due to the new policies, then you're all going to forget about the poor people being oppressed because it doesn't directly affect you. If IVF is banned, I bet we'll see some court packing stat. |
I really hope IVF is banned and all the rich people who can afford it have to go overseas to have their babies. |
I’m so disgusted that a medical procedure has others involved besides a woman and her doctor. It’s nobody else’s business. |