Trans Non Binary - minority?

[Anonymous]

First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

anecdotes are not data

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

they/them is not the same as trans non-binary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

they/them is not the same as trans non-binary.

Oh - this is helpful.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't go by the stats of one random person who did a training course. Look at where He (she/they) got there data.

Here is one article about the numbers. For the general population, estimates are currently over 1%. Unsurprisingly, the number is higher among the youths. This is probably due to both the "trendiness" of gender identity exploration and that it's more acceptable, the same way the numbers of people identifying as left-handed and gay went up as left-handedness and homosexuality became more acceptable.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-study-estimates-16-million-us-identify-transgender-2022-06-10/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

they/them is not the same as trans non-binary.

Oh - this is helpful.

Sex: separate from gender, this term refers to the cluster of biological, chromosomal and anatomical features associated with maleness and femaleness in the human body.
Gender: social, cultural and psychological traits linked to males and females that define them as masculine or feminine.
Gender Identity: refers to a person’s internal, deeply felt sense of being a man or woman, or something other or in between, which may or may not correspond with the sex assigned at birth.
Gender Expression: how an individual presents their gender outwardly to others through mannerisms and appearance.

Sexual Orientation: refers to the spectrum of emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/transgender-and-non-binary-faq

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't go by the stats of one random person who did a training course. Look at where He (she/they) got there data.

Here is one article about the numbers. For the general population, estimates are currently over 1%. Unsurprisingly, the number is higher among the youths. This is probably due to both the "trendiness" of gender identity exploration and that it's more acceptable, the same way the numbers of people identifying as left-handed and gay went up as left-handedness and homosexuality became more acceptable.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-study-estimates-16-million-us-identify-transgender-2022-06-10/

It’s not “trendy” we just used different language.

We said tom boy, or she’s not girly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

they/them is not the same as trans non-binary.

Oh - this is helpful.

Sex: separate from gender, this term refers to the cluster of biological, chromosomal and anatomical features associated with maleness and femaleness in the human body.
Gender: social, cultural and psychological traits linked to males and females that define them as masculine or feminine.
Gender Identity: refers to a person’s internal, deeply felt sense of being a man or woman, or something other or in between, which may or may not correspond with the sex assigned at birth.
Gender Expression: how an individual presents their gender outwardly to others through mannerisms and appearance.

Sexual Orientation: refers to the spectrum of emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/transgender-and-non-binary-faq

OP I knew this. But didn’t realize they them wasn’t necessarily trans or non binary. That is definitely something I didn’t know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't go by the stats of one random person who did a training course. Look at where He (she/they) got there data.

Here is one article about the numbers. For the general population, estimates are currently over 1%. Unsurprisingly, the number is higher among the youths. This is probably due to both the "trendiness" of gender identity exploration and that it's more acceptable, the same way the numbers of people identifying as left-handed and gay went up as left-handedness and homosexuality became more acceptable.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-study-estimates-16-million-us-identify-transgender-2022-06-10/

It’s not “trendy” we just used different language.

We said tom boy, or she’s not girly.

What are you talking about? I was a tomboy and/or a "non-girly" girl when I was growing up. I was not and have never been anything other than a cis-gender, heterosexual woman.

[Anonymous]

I have a kid who usually introduces himself as they/he or he/they, by which they mean you can use either. They identify as male. They're not trans or nonbinary. They just doesn't think that gender is useful information, and relevant to most conversation and so they default to the neutral because they think if the neutral they was used more often it would be better. I could absolutely see them becoming a college tour guide one day and introducing themselves as "they" as a way to signal to people that it's a safe space.

On the other hand, his best friend also uses he/they, and is definitely trans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't go by the stats of one random person who did a training course. Look at where He (she/they) got there data.

Here is one article about the numbers. For the general population, estimates are currently over 1%. Unsurprisingly, the number is higher among the youths. This is probably due to both the "trendiness" of gender identity exploration and that it's more acceptable, the same way the numbers of people identifying as left-handed and gay went up as left-handedness and homosexuality became more acceptable.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-study-estimates-16-million-us-identify-transgender-2022-06-10/

It’s not “trendy” we just used different language.

We said tom boy, or she’s not girly.

Well, I don't think that a girl who isn't girly is trans or nonbinary. They just aren't girly. So if a girl sees that she isn't very feminine and someone says that means she is nonbinary, she might try on that label and identify as such for a while. But she is still a girl.

I wouldn't dream of telling someone what their gender identity is, but we know this happens. One of my children is nonbinary and I honestly could see it from the time they were extremely young. I have another child who is just "not girly" and it's very different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't go by the stats of one random person who did a training course. Look at where He (she/they) got there data.

Here is one article about the numbers. For the general population, estimates are currently over 1%. Unsurprisingly, the number is higher among the youths. This is probably due to both the "trendiness" of gender identity exploration and that it's more acceptable, the same way the numbers of people identifying as left-handed and gay went up as left-handedness and homosexuality became more acceptable.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-study-estimates-16-million-us-identify-transgender-2022-06-10/

It’s not “trendy” we just used different language.

We said tom boy, or she’s not girly.

What are you talking about? I was a tomboy and/or a "non-girly" girl when I was growing up. I was not and have never been anything other than a cis-gender, heterosexual woman.

Again, you don't understand sex vs. gender vs gender identity vs gender expression.

It's okay, it's just vocabulary that you don't understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't go by the stats of one random person who did a training course. Look at where He (she/they) got there data.

Here is one article about the numbers. For the general population, estimates are currently over 1%. Unsurprisingly, the number is higher among the youths. This is probably due to both the "trendiness" of gender identity exploration and that it's more acceptable, the same way the numbers of people identifying as left-handed and gay went up as left-handedness and homosexuality became more acceptable.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-study-estimates-16-million-us-identify-transgender-2022-06-10/

It’s not “trendy” we just used different language.

We said tom boy, or she’s not girly.

Well, I don't think that a girl who isn't girly is trans or nonbinary. They just aren't girly. So if a girl sees that she isn't very feminine and someone says that means she is nonbinary, she might try on that label and identify as such for a while. But she is still a girl.

I wouldn't dream of telling someone what their gender identity is, but we know this happens. One of my children is nonbinary and I honestly could see it from the time they were extremely young. I have another child who is just "not girly" and it's very different.

You really just don't understand what they mean's. it does not mean they are non-binary, it does not mean they are trans.

You also don't understand sex vs. gender or gender identity ... you understand you kids but you dont' understand overall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

they/them is not the same as trans non-binary.

then what's the difference?

Too many labels for people who don't want to be labeled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I accept everyone and want people to be whomever they feel, believe, etc are. But at a training course, I was told that about 1-3% of the population is trans/non binary. We’ve been on tours at Brown, Tulane, William and Mary, Northeastern, Wake, and GW in the last 2.5 months and there has been at least one tour guide everytime said “they them”
for pronouns.

Was the presenter at my course wrong? I didn’t mishear it because we got a handout. Maybe the general nonbinary population is low but it’s higher for college students?

they/them is not the same as trans non-binary.

then what's the difference?

Too many labels for people who don't want to be labeled.

I posted a link to explain it.

I agree the English language and science has lots of words.