Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

Sounds like they'll be the same school at same address after the new regions with new magnets are implemented. Great idea by mcps.

They've explicitly stated Edison will still be available to students countywide so no

And the balance to Wheaton per the data in the boundary study. So yes

Even if this were the case, that's a lot of students to put into specialized programs purely based on residency, and those 500 students will still be at Wheaton HS for half the day

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

Sounds like they'll be the same school at same address after the new regions with new magnets are implemented. Great idea by mcps.

They've explicitly stated Edison will still be available to students countywide so no

And the balance to Wheaton per the data in the boundary study. So yes

Even if this were the case, that's a lot of students to put into specialized programs purely based on residency, and those 500 students will still be at Wheaton HS for half the day

Zzzz so boring

They'll get sent to Woodward for arts (aka coloring book) magnet too

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

I will pick option A.

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I like Option A as well.

A is second best. B still best

Agree, option B is best because it balances the four factors the best.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

I will pick option A.

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I like Option A as well.

A is second best. B still best

Agree, option B is best because it balances the four factors the best.

+1 for Gryffindor (B)

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Option B or it's time to flee

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

Sounds like they'll be the same school at same address after the new regions with new magnets are implemented. Great idea by mcps.

They've explicitly stated Edison will still be available to students countywide so no

And the balance to Wheaton per the data in the boundary study. So yes

Even if this were the case, that's a lot of students to put into specialized programs purely based on residency, and those 500 students will still be at Wheaton HS for half the day

Zzzz so boring

They'll get sent to Woodward for arts (aka coloring book) magnet too

Didn't you hear? That's not possible because North Bethesda will be the only area with increasing enrollment since it is the only area in the county where developers are building apartments. That's why they need to leave the school 20-30% under capacity for now. s/

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
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2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

does the CIP show Edison's capacity?

No, it doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

does the CIP show Edison's capacity?

No, it doesn't.

But the CIP wouldn't include it unless they were planning construction, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

does the CIP show Edison's capacity?

No, it doesn't.

But the CIP wouldn't include it unless they were planning construction, etc.

It mentions Edison as an existing facility (in a separate section from Wheaton/DCC), but has no capacity data included.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

does the CIP show Edison's capacity?

No, it doesn't.

But the CIP wouldn't include it unless they were planning construction, etc.

It mentions Edison as an existing facility (in a separate section from Wheaton/DCC), but has no capacity data included.

so the CIP wouldn't seem to matter at all for determining utilization across both schools. It's not relevant, since it's about something else (construction).

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

does the CIP show Edison's capacity?

No, it doesn't.

But the CIP wouldn't include it unless they were planning construction, etc.

It mentions Edison as an existing facility (in a separate section from Wheaton/DCC), but has no capacity data included.

so the CIP wouldn't seem to matter at all for determining utilization across both schools. It's not relevant, since it's about something else (construction).

Echo chamber from the one dude crying about Wheaton. Ignore. Plenty of seats there.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

does the CIP show Edison's capacity?

No, it doesn't.

But the CIP wouldn't include it unless they were planning construction, etc.

It mentions Edison as an existing facility (in a separate section from Wheaton/DCC), but has no capacity data included.

so the CIP wouldn't seem to matter at all for determining utilization across both schools. It's not relevant, since it's about something else (construction).

Either the capacity already exists and should be included in the CIP's numbers for Wheaton, or it is a shell space that needs to be built out, and that project should be proposed in the CIP. Neither of these is the case.

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Don't let the Wheaton guy gas light anyone.
The schools are very coordinated and connected.
Beyond being at the same address

Students in Wheaton High School academy can (if won the lottery) take courses at Edison that are similar to what they are learning in their academy.[2]

Construction Management & Architecture (Engineering Academy)
Healthcare Professions (Bioscience Academy)
Hospitality and Tourism Management (Global Studies Academy)
Information Technology and Cybersecurity (Academy of Information Technology)

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/wheatonhs/wheaton-edison-partnership/

Wheaton High School/ Thomas Edison High School of Technology Partnership Programs
Thomas Edison High School Website

Regional College and Career Programs at the Wheaton/Edison Campus
Programas universitarios y profesionales regionales en el campus de Wheaton / Edison


THIS IS A LOTTERY-BASED APPLICATION PROGRAM
ESTE ES UN PROGRAMA DE SOLICITUD BASADO EN LOTERÍA


The Wheaton/Edison Program (W/E) is for students who are interested in attending Wheaton High School and going to Thomas Edison High School of Technology for one of the four aligned career pathways. Each academy has a partnership with a complimentary program at Thomas Edison. Students are Wheaton HS students and will go to Thomas Edison in their 11th and/or 12th grade years. The potential of this program is that students will be program completers in their academy program at Wheaton as well as at Thomas Edison.


El Programa Wheaton / Edison (W / E) es para estudiantes interesados en asistir a Wheaton High School e ir a Thomas Edison High School of Technology para una de las cuatro trayectorias profesionales alineadas. Cada academia tiene una asociación con un programa complementario en Thomas Edison. Los estudiantes son estudiantes de Wheaton HS e irán a Thomas Edison en su 11º y / o 12º grado. El potencial de este programa es que los estudiantes completarán el programa en su programa académico en Wheaton así como en Thomas Edison.

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No one is contesting that Wheaton and Edison have a partnership and are located next door to each other. The question is about this additional capacity which Flo Analytics included in their data tables but which does not exist in any other MCPS information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't let the Wheaton guy gas light anyone.
The schools are very coordinated and connected.
Beyond being at the same address

Students in Wheaton High School academy can (if won the lottery) take courses at Edison that are similar to what they are learning in their academy.[2]

Construction Management & Architecture (Engineering Academy)
Healthcare Professions (Bioscience Academy)
Hospitality and Tourism Management (Global Studies Academy)
Information Technology and Cybersecurity (Academy of Information Technology)

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/wheatonhs/wheaton-edison-partnership/

Wheaton High School/ Thomas Edison High School of Technology Partnership Programs
Thomas Edison High School Website

Regional College and Career Programs at the Wheaton/Edison Campus
Programas universitarios y profesionales regionales en el campus de Wheaton / Edison


THIS IS A LOTTERY-BASED APPLICATION PROGRAM
ESTE ES UN PROGRAMA DE SOLICITUD BASADO EN LOTERÍA


The Wheaton/Edison Program (W/E) is for students who are interested in attending Wheaton High School and going to Thomas Edison High School of Technology for one of the four aligned career pathways. Each academy has a partnership with a complimentary program at Thomas Edison. Students are Wheaton HS students and will go to Thomas Edison in their 11th and/or 12th grade years. The potential of this program is that students will be program completers in their academy program at Wheaton as well as at Thomas Edison.


El Programa Wheaton / Edison (W / E) es para estudiantes interesados en asistir a Wheaton High School e ir a Thomas Edison High School of Technology para una de las cuatro trayectorias profesionales alineadas. Cada academia tiene una asociación con un programa complementario en Thomas Edison. Los estudiantes son estudiantes de Wheaton HS e irán a Thomas Edison en su 11º y / o 12º grado. El potencial de este programa es que los estudiantes completarán el programa en su programa académico en Wheaton así como en Thomas Edison.

Non of this addresses the concerns detailed below:

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?