Federal judge rules that admissions changes at nation’s top public school discriminate against Asian

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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


They are likely being allowed to remain as co counsel in name only so that their names will stay associated with the case. There is zero chance that Verrilli would let them touch the actual case work.



Why would you support FCPS that’s already declared racists who used impermissible racist sentiments?
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Seems like the school board is spending money with very little accountability and a lot of malice.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


scenario 1: I write a test. I don't pass it. People watching: It is the fault of the test and most definitely the fault of the people who passed the test. Fight to eliminate the test and have a lottery. else just destroy everything.

scenario 2: I write a test. I don't pass it. I look to see what I can do better. People watching: Provide/ask how they can help so that they and people coming after them can do better.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Exactly, we need to change the rules for Asians to increase their representation level to 20% for everything in the County including grants and contracts. It will have the most impact and remediate the injustice and discrimination that Asians have been subjected to for decades.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


scenario 1: I write a test. I don't pass it. People watching: It is the fault of the test and most definitely the fault of the people who passed the test. Fight to eliminate the test and have a lottery. else just destroy everything.

scenario 2: I write a test. I don't pass it. I look to see what I can do better. People watching: Provide/ask how they can help so that they and people coming after them can do better.


If you're writing a test that you don't pass... that's just hilarious.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Exactly, we need to change the rules for Asians to increase their representation level to 20% for everything in the County including grants and contracts. It will have the most impact and remediate the injustice and discrimination that Asians have been subjected to for decades.


The Asians who have been subjected to discrimination for decades in Northern Virginia (by and large, middle and lower-class East and Southeast Asians who live in the eastern part of the county) are TREMENDOUSLY HELPED by the new admissions process.

The folks who were helped by the old admissions process and who have come to dominate the process in the last dozen years are wealthy recent South Asian immigrants who settled in relatively closed ethnic enclaves in western Fairfax and Loudoun County.

You can claim "divide and conquer" all you want, but if you have any experience at TJ over any length of time you know this to be the case. The East and Southeast Asian populations at TJ have declined steeply over those dozen years or so. There's no getting around it. Koreans are most impacted.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Exactly, we need to change the rules for Asians to increase their representation level to 20% for everything in the County including grants and contracts. It will have the most impact and remediate the injustice and discrimination that Asians have been subjected to for decades.


The Asians who have been subjected to discrimination for decades in Northern Virginia (by and large, middle and lower-class East and Southeast Asians who live in the eastern part of the county) are TREMENDOUSLY HELPED by the new admissions process.

The folks who were helped by the old admissions process and who have come to dominate the process in the last dozen years are wealthy recent South Asian immigrants who settled in relatively closed ethnic enclaves in western Fairfax and Loudoun County.

You can claim "divide and conquer" all you want, but if you have any experience at TJ over any length of time you know this to be the case. The East and Southeast Asian populations at TJ have declined steeply over those dozen years or so. There's no getting around it. Koreans are most impacted.


don['t try to cloud the issue - the issue is that when over-representation at TJ is such an outrageous injustice to suck up all the energy at the cost of millions and other costs, we certainly need to address the EXTREME (I mean big fat ZERO in most cases) under=representation suffered by Asians who make up 20% of the county. We need 20% of Asians in all major aspects of the County including Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer since there is an extreme lack of inclusion for Fairfax county.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Exactly, we need to change the rules for Asians to increase their representation level to 20% for everything in the County including grants and contracts. It will have the most impact and remediate the injustice and discrimination that Asians have been subjected to for decades.


The Asians who have been subjected to discrimination for decades in Northern Virginia (by and large, middle and lower-class East and Southeast Asians who live in the eastern part of the county) are TREMENDOUSLY HELPED by the new admissions process.

The folks who were helped by the old admissions process and who have come to dominate the process in the last dozen years are wealthy recent South Asian immigrants who settled in relatively closed ethnic enclaves in western Fairfax and Loudoun County.

You can claim "divide and conquer" all you want, but if you have any experience at TJ over any length of time you know this to be the case. The East and Southeast Asian populations at TJ have declined steeply over those dozen years or so. There's no getting around it. Koreans are most impacted.


don['t try to cloud the issue - the issue is that when over-representation at TJ is such an outrageous injustice to suck up all the energy at the cost of millions and other costs, we certainly need to address the EXTREME (I mean big fat ZERO in most cases) under=representation suffered by Asians who make up 20% of the county. We need 20% of Asians in all major aspects of the County including Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer since there is an extreme lack of inclusion for Fairfax county.


We should have more Asian people in the classroom and in local government. (maybe just not using the TJ PTA exec board for their own personal objectives)
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Yes, there were 486 students admitted for Class of 2024 and only 1.23% were Black (6 students).
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Exactly, we need to change the rules for Asians to increase their representation level to 20% for everything in the County including grants and contracts. It will have the most impact and remediate the injustice and discrimination that Asians have been subjected to for decades.


The Asians who have been subjected to discrimination for decades in Northern Virginia (by and large, middle and lower-class East and Southeast Asians who live in the eastern part of the county) are TREMENDOUSLY HELPED by the new admissions process.

The folks who were helped by the old admissions process and who have come to dominate the process in the last dozen years are wealthy recent South Asian immigrants who settled in relatively closed ethnic enclaves in western Fairfax and Loudoun County.

You can claim "divide and conquer" all you want, but if you have any experience at TJ over any length of time you know this to be the case. The East and Southeast Asian populations at TJ have declined steeply over those dozen years or so. There's no getting around it. Koreans are most impacted.


don['t try to cloud the issue - the issue is that when over-representation at TJ is such an outrageous injustice to suck up all the energy at the cost of millions and other costs, we certainly need to address the EXTREME (I mean big fat ZERO in most cases) under=representation suffered by Asians who make up 20% of the county. We need 20% of Asians in all major aspects of the County including Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer since there is an extreme lack of inclusion for Fairfax county.


Asians should file a class action lawsuit to demand proportional representation in all areas of the County Government and all the money doled out to various groups and businesses. What a racket. Be careful what you ask for since you are gonna get it. Equal and proportional representation for all! Isn't that what the "pro-reform' folks are dying to have?
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Exactly, we need to change the rules for Asians to increase their representation level to 20% for everything in the County including grants and contracts. It will have the most impact and remediate the injustice and discrimination that Asians have been subjected to for decades.


The Asians who have been subjected to discrimination for decades in Northern Virginia (by and large, middle and lower-class East and Southeast Asians who live in the eastern part of the county) are TREMENDOUSLY HELPED by the new admissions process.

The folks who were helped by the old admissions process and who have come to dominate the process in the last dozen years are wealthy recent South Asian immigrants who settled in relatively closed ethnic enclaves in western Fairfax and Loudoun County.

You can claim "divide and conquer" all you want, but if you have any experience at TJ over any length of time you know this to be the case. The East and Southeast Asian populations at TJ have declined steeply over those dozen years or so. There's no getting around it. Koreans are most impacted.


don['t try to cloud the issue - the issue is that when over-representation at TJ is such an outrageous injustice to suck up all the energy at the cost of millions and other costs, we certainly need to address the EXTREME (I mean big fat ZERO in most cases) under=representation suffered by Asians who make up 20% of the county. We need 20% of Asians in all major aspects of the County including Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer since there is an extreme lack of inclusion for Fairfax county.


It's not clouding the issue to talk about what is happening at the ground level. Clouding the issue would be taking a conversation about access to an educational opportunity and trying to create a false equivalency with access to a job.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Exactly, we need to change the rules for Asians to increase their representation level to 20% for everything in the County including grants and contracts. It will have the most impact and remediate the injustice and discrimination that Asians have been subjected to for decades.


The Asians who have been subjected to discrimination for decades in Northern Virginia (by and large, middle and lower-class East and Southeast Asians who live in the eastern part of the county) are TREMENDOUSLY HELPED by the new admissions process.

The folks who were helped by the old admissions process and who have come to dominate the process in the last dozen years are wealthy recent South Asian immigrants who settled in relatively closed ethnic enclaves in western Fairfax and Loudoun County.

You can claim "divide and conquer" all you want, but if you have any experience at TJ over any length of time you know this to be the case. The East and Southeast Asian populations at TJ have declined steeply over those dozen years or so. There's no getting around it. Koreans are most impacted.


don['t try to cloud the issue - the issue is that when over-representation at TJ is such an outrageous injustice to suck up all the energy at the cost of millions and other costs, we certainly need to address the EXTREME (I mean big fat ZERO in most cases) under=representation suffered by Asians who make up 20% of the county. We need 20% of Asians in all major aspects of the County including Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer since there is an extreme lack of inclusion for Fairfax county.


It's not clouding the issue to talk about what is happening at the ground level. Clouding the issue would be taking a conversation about access to an educational opportunity and trying to create a false equivalency with access to a job.


Jobs are MORE important one high school.
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Anonymous wrote:Not really seeing why they would appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.


They can't help themselves. They love spending other people's money practicing racism.


HAK is representing FCPS pro bono, just like PLF is representing C4TJ pro bono.


BS.


Apparently Verrilli is taking this on pro bono. Not sure Hunton's invovlement at all at the appelate level. Should be interesting, and clearly raises the profile of this case even more.


Hunton Kurth is still on the appeals team (at least two attorneys) and taxpayers will be paying.
See article below for information about the attorneys that will be representing FCPS. Not all of them are working pro Bono!

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-school-board-appeal-ruling-fcps-thomas-jefferson-high-school-for-science-and-technology-tj-admissions-policy-process-controversial-discrimination-asian-american-applicants-judge-claude-hilton-virginia


Who approves these budgets?


Our elected officials. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors approves the overall funding. The School Board decides how to spend it. As far as I know, the Board of Supervisors does not dictate exactly how the School Board spends the money.


Fairfax Board of Supervisors must represent ALL the citizens of the county. Asians must make up 20% of the Board of Supervisors. Board of Supervisors must be exposed to the benefits of working in a "diverse" environment where they will be exposed to different ethnicities and cultures that is Fairfax County and that will make them a better human being and better government officials. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for the Fairfax County appointed immediately to promote Asians in ALL aspects of the County government. We need 20% Asians on the school board. We need 20% of Asian judges in the county. We need 20% Asian judges in the county. We need 20% of top positions in the FCPS. We need Asian principal for TJ not some fumbling fool who cannot think for herself.

It is a travesty that there is 0% Asians on the board and for pretty much all areas of the County government. It is not under-representation - it is a ZERO representation. Where are all the white liberal democrats screaming murder in this case? We want 20%.


Ummm . . . Put up a candidate. Can't win the lottery without buying a ticket no matter how much you pray for it.


cAn say the same for black applicants to TJ - apply in numbers more than 2 or 3 dozen than you may get more than 7 or 8.

In addition, Asians do run for offices and apply for positions at the FCPS or to become teachers at TJ and other schools but are not selected on the basis of race. Racial discrimination. We need Asian Diversity & Inclusion Officer for Fairfax County.


For the Class of 2024, approximately 160 Black students applied to go to TJ. Though the number selected was officially "too small to report", meaning less than 10, it is widely believed that the actual number was six. A typical recent year would see about 200 Black applicants, much more than "2 or 3 dozen".

The changes to the admissions process resulted in nearly a 70% increase in the number of Black applicants.


Yes, there were 486 students admitted for Class of 2024 and only 1.23% were Black (6 students).


If only 6 are qualified, how will the diversity students perform once assigned to TJ? STEM courses are different from sociology or history courses.
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