Do I stay or do I go?

Anonymous
I hadn’t seen my parents since before Covid but called them every night and was preparing to visit.

My father ended up in the hospital and I drove 600 miles overnight to get there. I drove mom daily to the local hospital/rehab/hospital 60 miles away for over a month before he died.

I am an only child with no children. There are no other close relatives. I’m in my 60s and my husband is in his 70s. He stayed home because we are in the middle of renovating our home and he has some chronic health issues.

What I didn’t know before I got here is that my mom has been in significant cognitive decline. I had noticed her memory getting worse, but she and my dad were able to cover it up really well in our nightly calls (now that I’m here I realize that’s because it was routine and they were prepared). I was always closer to, and very much like, my father—optimistic, carefree, creative, outgoing. My mother had a very difficult childhood and has always been suspicious, anxious, and reclusive.

My mom is unable to cope with what is happening. She has repeatedly lashed out at me, yelling, screaming, grabbing and hitting me. She has accused me of thinking she’s stupid, thinking she’s a liar, thinking she doesn’t know what’s going on. Note: “thinking,” not “saying.” This is as a result of my asking her questions as I’m trying to help her with things she is bringing to me because she doesn’t understand—bills, medical questions, dad’s investments, his cell phone, etc. I have been very, very careful not to tell her what to do. She will ask me the same questions over and over, even if I label things for her. She has great difficulty making a decision, and even if she does, she changes it. If any of this is mentioned, she screams that “I’m not stupid! I know exactly what is going on!”

She blew up at me three times at the funeral home while we were making arrangements when the director left the room. She kept thinking “we” were trying to “make her” have a funeral or memorial just because there were questions. She ultimately declined any sort of notice whatsoever. My father was a well known business owner and artist. He had many friends who I have been in touch with but my mother has contacted no one. She is barely speaking to me.

She has also blown up about how much toilet paper I’ve used, my “extravagant’ food taking up space in her refrigerator (I have gastrointestinal issues that affect both of these) how I do my laundry, what time I go to bed, etc. I have resorted to purchasing all my own supplies and have replaced everything I used.

She is 85 and in excellent physical health. Her parents lived to 91 and 108. She mows grass, trims hedges, hauls laundry up 2 stories. She drives to the grocery, post office, and hairdresser without issues.

The house is 100 years old, laundry in basement, single bath upstairs, meticulously and densely furnished like a museum. There are two large garages packed with antiques and my dad’s workspaces.

My parents had absolutely no plans in place, although they talked about moving into a senior living facility for many years. Everything was owned jointly. There is no Power of Attorney or trust set up, my name is on nothing. We saw a lawyer to set up PoA for my dad, but he was never well enough to sign. The lawyer and I discussed doing one for mom at the same time, but once he met with us he saw how bad she was and elected to wait.

My mom doesn’t think she has any money and told me she is “down to one income.” There is at least $2 million in cash (brokerage, IRAs) that my parents haven’t touched. My mother has a government pension and social security. The house is worth about $300k. There is no debt whatsoever. As far as I can tell bills are being paid.

At this point I feel like I’m not able to help and am just aggravating her. I see no possibility of getting her to a doctor right now, let alone moving her and emptying and selling the house. She is refusing my offers to do anything, is fundamentally suspicious, and it’s only getting worse.

I am torn between telling her I’m going home, vs telling her I’m going to have to take over her affairs, get her moved, and liquidate the property (which may very well result in complete estrangement). I can count on several people locally (my best friend, a neighbor, my dad’s former business partner, and several other family friends) to keep an eye on her, and I can come back at the drop of a hat. What I can’t do is continue on like this. I am clearly no comfort to her—one morning I found her crying, so I put my arm around her, told her I love her, that it was on to cry, that she’d be ok. She screamed that everything was not ok, pushed me away, stomped upstairs and shammed the door to her room. I almost feel it would be best for me to go so that she can grieve privately, and wait for her to ask me to come back. I am getting physically sick being here—My gastro issues are flaring and I have a bad cold.

So, do I stay or do I go? I know I’m not the first or only person to deal with these issues and would truly appreciate any guidance on how to handle this.

Anonymous
A lot has just happened to your mother and she needs some time to settle herself (and the same has happened to you). I suggest leaving for a few weeks and let her know when you're coming back. When you go back, talk to her about how she's doing, ask her what she needs, listen to her, and then go from there. Don't try to have her decide everything (POA, finances, living, etc.) all at once or she'll get overwhelmed and get combative.

Talk to her doctor and the local senior services and see what's available to support her. The goal is to ensure that she's in a safe situation. Everything else can be addressed bit by bit.

Best wishes, OP, this stuff isn't easy,
Anonymous
I’d contact your local friends and share with them what you wrote here. Go home for a few weeks and see how things are going. She is grieving and likely has dementia which will only get worse. I’d get advice from the attorney and definitely speak with her doctor.
Anonymous
Triage a lis5 of what needs to be done. And try to do the first thing on the list. I would think getting the POA would be first.

Do you think she should drive? If not, this is first on the list.
Anonymous
Your mother isn't ready for the talking and doing you're trying. Go home and let her process for a while. Come back in few weeks when you're both ready
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A lot has just happened to your mother and she needs some time to settle herself (and the same has happened to you). I suggest leaving for a few weeks and let her know when you're coming back. When you go back, talk to her about how she's doing, ask her what she needs, listen to her, and then go from there. Don't try to have her decide everything (POA, finances, living, etc.) all at once or she'll get overwhelmed and get combative.

Talk to her doctor and the local senior services and see what's available to support her. The goal is to ensure that she's in a safe situation. Everything else can be addressed bit by bit.

Best wishes, OP, this stuff isn't easy,

Thank you, this is good advice. I think she will be safe, at least for a while. There are plenty of people here to keep an eye on her.
Anonymous
Go for now. You will be coming back. Research her living options. She has money. When you find something, move her - - then worry about the house. Or ..

When you're back, if she is violent, call the police. They arrive, send her to the hospital for an evaluation. They then can't release her to her home because you will state there is no one to care for her at home. And she is placed, by the hospital, somewhere - they are the bad guy. But you knowing what's out there, where she might live, where she might like to live, means you might be able to guide the process.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d contact your local friends and share with them what you wrote here. Go home for a few weeks and see how things are going. She is grieving and likely has dementia which will only get worse. I’d get advice from the attorney and definitely speak with her doctor.

Thank you. Fortunately my dad was much loved and I’m already talking with several people who would do anything for her. I’m honestly not sure how much of this is the trauma of recent events and how much is underlying since she’s capable of hiding it so well. She has always been a “yeller” and tends to see the worst in everything and everyone. My dad just tolerated it because he adored her. I don’t know how I can get her to the doctor—a couple of months ago she just passed her yearly wellness check with flying colors.
Anonymous
OP I feel for you. My mother is a similar age and has always had some paranoia/blame issues so I have been reluctant to get a POA in part because I know that will give her an excuse to start blaming me for things/decisions. But it is important to get that and I am resolved to do that. I'd put that high on your list.

I would also look at retirement places pretty quickly. My mother moved to independent living a couple of years ago and it's actually been helpful from a socialization perspective. Plus it is continuing care so she can move to assisted living easily when the time comes. We looked at places for a few eyars and she moved a year or two later than she should have, but ultimately it was her decision to move.

Go home and take a break. It is exhausting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Go for now. You will be coming back. Research her living options. She has money. When you find something, move her - - then worry about the house. Or ..

When you're back, if she is violent, call the police. They arrive, send her to the hospital for an evaluation. They then can't release her to her home because you will state there is no one to care for her at home. And she is placed, by the hospital, somewhere - they are the bad guy. But you knowing what's out there, where she might live, where she might like to live, means you might be able to guide the process.

Thank you, I’m definitely leaning toward leaving next week. I’m so afraid she’s going to attack me again and that I will accidentally hurt her just trying to calm her down. I hope I don’t have to call the police—it’s a pretty small town. If it does come to that, what happens if she’s calmed down by the time they get here and has forgotten what happened? She is already acting like nothings wrong after attacking me. Fortunately, one of my dad’s friends recently dealt with the 3 best local facilities with his mom and has offered to help me evaluate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP I feel for you. My mother is a similar age and has always had some paranoia/blame issues so I have been reluctant to get a POA in part because I know that will give her an excuse to start blaming me for things/decisions. But it is important to get that and I am resolved to do that. I'd put that high on your list.

I would also look at retirement places pretty quickly. My mother moved to independent living a couple of years ago and it's actually been helpful from a socialization perspective. Plus it is continuing care so she can move to assisted living easily when the time comes. We looked at places for a few eyars and she moved a year or two later than she should have, but ultimately it was her decision to move.

Go home and take a break. It is exhausting.

Thank you, it’s really comforting knowing I’m not the only one going through this. I don’t know how I’ll ever be able to get a PoA. She is already accusing me of trying to take over and steal her money. She told me I have an “extravagant lifestyle” because I accidentally left a light on in the basement. I’m planning on seeing the attorney again who did dad’s (that we never got signed) and see if he has any ideas. Fortunately there are three good options for senior facilities here, so that may be the easiest part as long as she feels like it’s her decision.
Anonymous
You cannot sell everything off in less you have some type of guardianship. You can demand and push her to come live with you or near you, which is the best option. Her behavior sounds pretty typical of the beginning of dementia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Triage a lis5 of what needs to be done. And try to do the first thing on the list. I would think getting the POA would be first.

Do you think she should drive? If not, this is first on the list.

Thank you. I’m going to follow up with the lawyer and see if he has any ideas for getting it done. I had talked with him before taking her to do my dad’s, and he could see she was too confused to proceed with hers.
Fortunately, her driving seems ok. To my knowledge, she hasn’t gotten lost. She has gone by herself to the grocery, post office and her hairdresser, and made it back in a normal amount of time. When I have taken her places she’s been able to give me directions and knows the streets.
Anonymous
Op, if violent, call the police, once there they would call for an ambulance if one hadn't already arrived with them. They are going to believe you - not her. "For her own good" she would be taken in an ambulance. She wouldn't feel like she's getting arrested - it would feel like a medical intervention.

The last thing to worry about is: it's a small town and people will talk. You have got to get that out of your head. Things happen. People deal with stuff, everyone does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You cannot sell everything off in less you have some type of guardianship. You can demand and push her to come live with you or near you, which is the best option. Her behavior sounds pretty typical of the beginning of dementia.

Thank you. I have no desire to sell anything until absolutely necessary, especially given her suspicions of me. My parents collected antiques and carefully curated displays throughout the house—they were crippled by the thought of leaving. I have told them for years to stop worrying about it. I wanted them to be able to remember their home as it was, walk away only with what they needed, and that I would take care of it. There is no way my mother will be able to deal with getting rid of three buildings packed full by herself. I am thinking she should just stay put until it’s her decision to leave. She (and my dad) absolutely hate the dc area and made it clear they would never move away from their home town. All of their friends are here, so she would have the best support system. Also, my husband would not tolerate how she is treating me, regardless of the cause.
post reply Forum Index » Eldercare
Message Quick Reply
Go to: