Don't fly United

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

It may surprise you. I am no stranger to poor service but this time UA had gone so beyond the pale I rather take a connection than get assaulted. And if they bump passengers off flights so frequently it comes out as a wash.
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You could avoid assault by complying with crew and police instructions to deboard the plane.. then take it up with them later if you think it was unfair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It may surprise you. I am no stranger to poor service but this time UA had gone so beyond the pale I rather take a connection than get assaulted. And if they bump passengers off flights so frequently it comes out as a wash.
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You could avoid assault by complying with crew and police instructions to deboard the plane.. then take it up with them later if you think it was unfair.


This is exactly why the airlines have a comply or else attitude! Why would you get off if you are not doing anything wrong?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It may surprise you. I am no stranger to poor service but this time UA had gone so beyond the pale I rather take a connection than get assaulted. And if they bump passengers off flights so frequently it comes out as a wash.
\

You could avoid assault by complying with crew and police instructions to deboard the plane.. then take it up with them later if you think it was unfair.


This is exactly why the airlines have a comply or else attitude! Why would you get off if you are not doing anything wrong?


Exactly. Take it up with them later? As in after you've already missed the flight you paid for? On another day after Dr. Dao wasted more time of his life? Time is a finite resource. He should not be expected to lose that resource due to incompetence and authoritative strong arming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It may surprise you. I am no stranger to poor service but this time UA had gone so beyond the pale I rather take a connection than get assaulted. And if they bump passengers off flights so frequently it comes out as a wash.
\

You could avoid assault by complying with crew and police instructions to deboard the plane.. then take it up with them later if you think it was unfair.


And United could have avoided the problem entirely by offering adequate compensation to get a volunteer to be bumped. Dr Dao will be a millionaire hundreds of times over once this is done, and rightly so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize there were so many American and Delta employees on DCUM.


Anyone who takes a plane these days can relate to Dr Dao's story. United has brought this on themselves. I used to fly all the time on United and still have over 200k miles with them. I used to feel a good deal of loyalty towards them, but I am just done, done, done at this point.


pp here. I did too and never had a problem. Have they really gotten that bad?

FWIW, I've flown hundreds of thousands of miles over forty years and have never got bumped from a flight. I can't excuse what UAL did, but it seems to occur to no one in this 75 page thread that none of this would have happened if Dr. Dao had just GTFO the aircraft when asked to do so. What an attitude.


Let me guess, big flyer, you're a white male. Try flying while age 69 and Asian. He had no obligation to leave that flight. And people like you defending United are the problem...people who believe the "authority" is unquestionable. That's how we find our civil rights stripped away.


Yep, handsome, polite, charming white guy. You really ought to learn to read. I did not defend United, but you really need to GFYS for making this about race and civil rights. It's about getting bumped from a damn airline flight. The plane doesn't belong to you? You GTFO when asked.

So sick of the victimhood meme around here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize there were so many American and Delta employees on DCUM.


Anyone who takes a plane these days can relate to Dr Dao's story. United has brought this on themselves. I used to fly all the time on United and still have over 200k miles with them. I used to feel a good deal of loyalty towards them, but I am just done, done, done at this point.


pp here. I did too and never had a problem. Have they really gotten that bad?

FWIW, I've flown hundreds of thousands of miles over forty years and have never got bumped from a flight. I can't excuse what UAL did, but it seems to occur to no one in this 75 page thread that none of this would have happened if Dr. Dao had just GTFO the aircraft when asked to do so. What an attitude.


Let me guess, big flyer, you're a white male. Try flying while age 69 and Asian. He had no obligation to leave that flight. And people like you defending United are the problem...people who believe the "authority" is unquestionable. That's how we find our civil rights stripped away.


Yep, handsome, polite, charming white guy. You really ought to learn to read. I did not defend United, but you really need to GFYS for making this about race and civil rights. It's about getting bumped from a damn airline flight. The plane doesn't belong to you? You GTFO when asked.

So sick of the victimhood meme around here.


Don't worry hon, you likely won't get bumped since you're a big shot who's flown 100s of 1000s of miles. They take care of the folks with status!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize there were so many American and Delta employees on DCUM.


Anyone who takes a plane these days can relate to Dr Dao's story. United has brought this on themselves. I used to fly all the time on United and still have over 200k miles with them. I used to feel a good deal of loyalty towards them, but I am just done, done, done at this point.


pp here. I did too and never had a problem. Have they really gotten that bad?

FWIW, I've flown hundreds of thousands of miles over forty years and have never got bumped from a flight. I can't excuse what UAL did, but it seems to occur to no one in this 75 page thread that none of this would have happened if Dr. Dao had just GTFO the aircraft when asked to do so. What an attitude.


Let me guess, big flyer, you're a white male. Try flying while age 69 and Asian. He had no obligation to leave that flight. And people like you defending United are the problem...people who believe the "authority" is unquestionable. That's how we find our civil rights stripped away.


Yep, handsome, polite, charming white guy. You really ought to learn to read. I did not defend United, but you really need to GFYS for making this about race and civil rights. It's about getting bumped from a damn airline flight. The plane doesn't belong to you? You GTFO when asked.

So sick of the victimhood meme around here.


And I'm sick of corporate shills. How you could look at that scene and decide Dr Dao is the bad actor here is beyond me. Corporations don't get to beat people up. This is no better than a mugger demanding someone's wallet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize there were so many American and Delta employees on DCUM.


Anyone who takes a plane these days can relate to Dr Dao's story. United has brought this on themselves. I used to fly all the time on United and still have over 200k miles with them. I used to feel a good deal of loyalty towards them, but I am just done, done, done at this point.


pp here. I did too and never had a problem. Have they really gotten that bad?

FWIW, I've flown hundreds of thousands of miles over forty years and have never got bumped from a flight. I can't excuse what UAL did, but it seems to occur to no one in this 75 page thread that none of this would have happened if Dr. Dao had just GTFO the aircraft when asked to do so. What an attitude.


Let me guess, big flyer, you're a white male. Try flying while age 69 and Asian. He had no obligation to leave that flight. And people like you defending United are the problem...people who believe the "authority" is unquestionable. That's how we find our civil rights stripped away.


Yep, handsome, polite, charming white guy. You really ought to learn to read. I did not defend United, but you really need to GFYS for making this about race and civil rights. It's about getting bumped from a damn airline flight. The plane doesn't belong to you? You GTFO when asked.

So sick of the victimhood meme around here.


First of all, "yourself" is one word, not two. You should inform your abbreviation generator. Second, you're lying to yourself and everyone here when you say you'd just get up and go without pushing back. There is video showing Mr. Dao refusing to leave. I see road rage in DC most days that is more belligerent than he was. If you say that you'd leave a plane seat that you paid for that is the second leg of a flight home after vacation without arguing, I would not believe you for a moment. Then again that would never happen to you. You're much too handsome and charming, right?
Anonymous
First of all, "yourself" is one word, not two. You should inform your abbreviation generator. Second, you're lying to yourself and everyone here when you say you'd just get up and go without pushing back. There is video showing Mr. Dao refusing to leave. I see road rage in DC most days that is more belligerent than he was. If you say that you'd leave a plane seat that you paid for that is the second leg of a flight home after vacation without arguing, I would not believe you for a moment. Then again that would never happen to you. You're much too handsome and charming, right?


Yes, I am. I also understand that interfering with a flight crew is a federal offense punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The passenger's refusal to follow direction from flight crew made him a potential threat to safety. If I was on the plane, I would want him off.

You don't have a "civil right" to fly on someone else's airplane, dear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
First of all, "yourself" is one word, not two. You should inform your abbreviation generator. Second, you're lying to yourself and everyone here when you say you'd just get up and go without pushing back. There is video showing Mr. Dao refusing to leave. I see road rage in DC most days that is more belligerent than he was. If you say that you'd leave a plane seat that you paid for that is the second leg of a flight home after vacation without arguing, I would not believe you for a moment. Then again that would never happen to you. You're much too handsome and charming, right?


Yes, I am. I also understand that interfering with a flight crew is a federal offense punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The passenger's refusal to follow direction from flight crew made him a potential threat to safety. If I was on the plane, I would want him off.

You don't have a "civil right" to fly on someone else's airplane, dear.


You're ridiculous. Bless your heart.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
First of all, "yourself" is one word, not two. You should inform your abbreviation generator. Second, you're lying to yourself and everyone here when you say you'd just get up and go without pushing back. There is video showing Mr. Dao refusing to leave. I see road rage in DC most days that is more belligerent than he was. If you say that you'd leave a plane seat that you paid for that is the second leg of a flight home after vacation without arguing, I would not believe you for a moment. Then again that would never happen to you. You're much too handsome and charming, right?


Yes, I am. I also understand that interfering with a flight crew is a federal offense punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The passenger's refusal to follow direction from flight crew made him a potential threat to safety. If I was on the plane, I would want him off.

You don't have a "civil right" to fly on someone else's airplane, dear.


He wasn't interfering with a flight crew, and no way is he going to jail.
Anonymous
Wow, did United find this thread? Did they hire PR - just like they are trying to sanitize Twitter?

How pathetic. United is in enough trouble, they would be smart to quit while they are behind. Well behind.

This whole incident was just a matter of time. How long did they think their idea of "customer service", including "reaccomodating" could continue? And for employees trying to commute to work? Clearly they really believe people (the paying public) are as stupid as they are.

United may have lobbyists and unions, but people have and will continue to have a say, with their wallets, like it or not. This isn't China, Russia, or worse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It may surprise you. I am no stranger to poor service but this time UA had gone so beyond the pale I rather take a connection than get assaulted. And if they bump passengers off flights so frequently it comes out as a wash.
\

You could avoid assault by complying with crew and police instructions to deboard the plane.. then take it up with them later if you think it was unfair.


And United could have avoided the problem entirely by offering adequate compensation to get a volunteer to be bumped. Dr Dao will be a millionaire hundreds of times over once this is done, and rightly so.

He got concussed by United Airlines.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It may surprise you. I am no stranger to poor service but this time UA had gone so beyond the pale I rather take a connection than get assaulted. And if they bump passengers off flights so frequently it comes out as a wash.
\

You could avoid assault by complying with crew and police instructions to deboard the plane.. then take it up with them later if you think it was unfair.


Or I can find an airline who don't bump off paying customers for their air crew and don't call
Police on them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
First of all, "yourself" is one word, not two. You should inform your abbreviation generator. Second, you're lying to yourself and everyone here when you say you'd just get up and go without pushing back. There is video showing Mr. Dao refusing to leave. I see road rage in DC most days that is more belligerent than he was. If you say that you'd leave a plane seat that you paid for that is the second leg of a flight home after vacation without arguing, I would not believe you for a moment. Then again that would never happen to you. You're much too handsome and charming, right?


Yes, I am. I also understand that interfering with a flight crew is a federal offense punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The passenger's refusal to follow direction from flight crew made him a potential threat to safety. If I was on the plane, I would want him off.

You don't have a "civil right" to fly on someone else's airplane, dear.

After you've collected my $$$$$$, and I put my arse in the seat, you don't get to throw me out, just because your buddy suddenly shows up. Dearie.
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