new Reade/Biden thread
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Anonymous
Yes, by talking out of both sides of their mouths, they actually think no one will notice what hypocrites they are. "Of COURSE most women are telling the truth!! Of COURSE we believe them! Just not if they're accusing a Democrat..." It's so blatantly hypocritical that it's actually amusing. |
Anonymous
Well, no. No they didn't. https://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/joe-biden-skinny-dipping-first-family-detail-109633 “Agents say that, whether at the vice president’s residence or at his home in Delaware, Biden has a habit of swimming in his pool nude,” Kessler wrote, according to the New York Daily News. Female Secret Service agents found his skinny dipping to be “offensive.” “The First Family Detail” describes the vice president’s desire to be seen as a “regular Joe,” but says that agents find that “being assigned to his detail is considered the second worst assignment in the Secret Service.” |
Anonymous
If Murry or Reade were believable, then people would believe them. Sadly that’s not the case. You’ve tried to show Reade’s case again and again, and there are just too many problems with it. The hypocrites are the ones who ignore Trump’s TWO DOZEN accusations. |
Anonymous
| Sorry no one believes Reade. We know this is exactly what happened fake stories about Hillary fake stories about Obama fake stories about Biden. The more you people hammer this story the more fake it will appear. |
Anonymous
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PBS NewsHour contacted hundreds of Biden staffers from the 1972 campaign on and interviewed 74 of them. Reade refused an interview with them. Worth a read.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-74-former-biden-staffers-think-about-tara-reades-allegations |
Anonymous
People need to be aware that predators are usually very nice people. You would never think that a boy or girl was being abused by Jon Doe because he is just the best baseball or soccer coach. He is so great with the kids. We don’t believe that boy or girls allegation because we did not see any pattern or experience any kind of sexual abuse. BUT it happens. Someone with power is praying on the vulnerable and can get away with it due to that power, secrecy and good standing with everyone else around them. VERY SCARY. So, I would urge people to be very careful here cuz it could happen to your kid, sister, mother or whoever. Don’t dismiss it and be an advocate for the victim. |
Anonymous
I’m totally willing to believe Reade... if she had a story she didn’t keep changing: if she hadn’t tweeted out her admiration for Biden as a defender of women’s rights; if her corroborators hadn’t changed their stories (Reade’s brother) or we’re backing away from her (her neighbor). And frankly, Reade’s whole history of grifting and as a serial victim (assault and racial discrimination). Reade said she filed a complaint-she filed an intake form—she didn’t file anything. She said she told 3 Biden staffers at the time, but all three have issues public denials. And so on and so on. I’ve been assaulted and Reade does real victims a huge disservice. I don’t understand why this thread is still up. There hasn’t been any new info in weeks. It’s just the Con toddlers making unsubstantiated claims, babyish insults, and plus one-ing each other. |
Anonymous
Such people usual have a pattern. Journalist investigations such as this aren't turning up any such pattern and the guy who worked with her said she was fired for.poor performance and not harrassed. Even the the thing about asking her to serve drinks, which would not have been ususual at that time, is contradicted by other staffers. |
Anonymous
| Biden said he didn’t remember Reade. |
Anonymous
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I was perfectly willing to listen to Reade when she made her claims. I thought it was incumbent upon us to hear her out. I was glad that the NY Times, Wash Post and NPR did a lot of investigating her claims. However, all of the red flags, inconsistencies, lack of corroboration or confirmation of what she's said, along with her clear history of lying and deceit put enough question into her claims. At this point, I think she falls into the same category as Blasey Ford. Both women may or may not have been victimized as they claim. Neither one has enough evidence to stall the accused men of proceeding. It's unfortunate, but required in our system. Our country is founded on the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Neither woman can prove their accused is guilty and we need to maintain a presumption of innocence. It is a cornerstone of our legal and government system.
Unless Reade can come up with more information that can be confirmed or corroborated consistently, then her case is just one of many that cannot change the course of events. |
Anonymous
Asking a Senate staffer to work a fundraiser for that Senator is VERY unusual (and, not an expert in this, but it may be illegal) and her story about that was roundly discounted by multiple people on the record in the PBS NewsHour piece, which everyone should read. Biden didn’t have staffers work fundraisers, rarely had fundraisers in DC at all, and usually chose men to serve coffee or whatever at meetings because he was concerned about the optics of having women in servile roles. |
Anonymous
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PP is right, the exhaustive PBS investigation is really interesting. Among other things....
Ben Savage, who said his desk was next to Reade’s in the Biden mailroom, disputed her charge that she was forced out of her job in retaliation for a sexual harassment complaint she claims to have filed. Savage, who worked as the office’s systems administrator, overseeing computers and information processing, told the NewsHour that Reade was fired for her poor performance on the job, which he witnessed — not as retaliation for her complaints about sexual harassment. But according to Savage, Reade had been mishandling a key part of her job and an essential office task — processing constituent mail, something they worked on together. Savage said he recalls reporting these issues to his boss, deputy chief of staff Dennis Toner. After that, Savage said he began diminishing Reade’s duties, taking over some of her tasks and rerouting parts of the process to exclude her. “I don’t think anyone would describe these situations as normal. They are troublesome, to say the least.” “Of all the people who held that position, she’s the only one during my time there who couldn’t necessarily keep up or who found it frustrating,” said Savage, who worked in the office for three years, from 1993 to 1996. Toner, who was Savage’s direct supervisor, told the NewsHour that he did not remember Reade. He said he did remember Savage as a good worker who stood out in the office. “I can’t take issue with Ben saying that her job performance was not up to par. We would have had a discussion with Tara or whomever the employee would have been to see how we could make it work,” Toner said. “I do not recall Tara being in the office. I can’t comment on why she would have left or anything like that,” he added. Wigdor, Reade’s attorney, said that she does not remember Savage specifically, but said his story is wrong and her performance had nothing to do with her termination. |
Anonymous
| ^^ pp again, that long passage is a direct quote from the NPR link. |
Anonymous
And this.
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Anonymous
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Here’s a Politico piece where several of Reade’s former acquaintanceS call her manipulative and deceitful.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/tara-reade-left-trail-of-aggrieved-acquaintances-260771 But if we don’t believe her yet we believe some of Trump’s accusers, we’re hypocrites, amirite Cons? |