2024 US News rankings

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Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

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Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

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Anonymous wrote:Would you still go to a private if it confuses a lot of people with the name?
The University of Pennsylvania and University of Chicago are the ones that throw people off (people often think they are regular publics unless they are "in the know"). Questions about Penn's football team crack me up

Nobody that matters would be confused

If you wrote this comment, please take a few minute off and go look in the mirror

The bar is pretty low to not know the names of schools typically ranked among the top 10. Extremely low.

I'm sure many of the ranking-obsessed folks here use that list as a mantra when they meditate

I would assume anyone with a high school equivalent level of education is familiar with Penn and U of Chicago.

This is right up there with the most incorrect assumptions ever made, especially since probably at least half the people even in New England (where they know a thing or two about elite colleges) couldn’t tell you the difference between Penn & Penn State. And lots of people even in Illinois know nothing about U of Chicago. So imagine what they know in Tennessee, South Dakota, Wyoming, or Oregon. (And yes, I have lived in New England & Illinois.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

You realize that Dartmouth is half the size of the average Ivy, right? That means that fewer students get accepted compared to the other Ivies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

You realize that Dartmouth is half the size of the average Ivy, right? That means that fewer students get accepted compared to the other Ivies.

Or they perceive Dartmouth to be less desirable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you still go to a private if it confuses a lot of people with the name?
The University of Pennsylvania and University of Chicago are the ones that throw people off (people often think they are regular publics unless they are "in the know"). Questions about Penn's football team crack me up

Nobody that matters would be confused

You must be fun at parties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you still go to a private if it confuses a lot of people with the name?
The University of Pennsylvania and University of Chicago are the ones that throw people off (people often think they are regular publics unless they are "in the know"). Questions about Penn's football team crack me up

Nobody that matters would be confused

You must be fun at parties.

We don’t go to the same parties.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you still go to a private if it confuses a lot of people with the name?
The University of Pennsylvania and University of Chicago are the ones that throw people off (people often think they are regular publics unless they are "in the know"). Questions about Penn's football team crack me up

Nobody that matters would be confused

If you wrote this comment, please take a few minute off and go look in the mirror

The bar is pretty low to not know the names of schools typically ranked among the top 10. Extremely low.

I'm sure many of the ranking-obsessed folks here use that list as a mantra when they meditate

I would assume anyone with a high school equivalent level of education is familiar with Penn and U of Chicago.

This is right up there with the most incorrect assumptions ever made, especially since probably at least half the people even in New England (where they know a thing or two about elite colleges) couldn’t tell you the difference between Penn & Penn State. And lots of people even in Illinois know nothing about U of Chicago. So imagine what they know in Tennessee, South Dakota, Wyoming, or Oregon. (And yes, I have lived in New England & Illinois.)

I would argue these people should not have a high school degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you still go to a private if it confuses a lot of people with the name?
The University of Pennsylvania and University of Chicago are the ones that throw people off (people often think they are regular publics unless they are "in the know"). Questions about Penn's football team crack me up

Nobody that matters would be confused

You must be fun at parties.

We don’t go to the same parties.

Thank goodness for that.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you still go to a private if it confuses a lot of people with the name?
The University of Pennsylvania and University of Chicago are the ones that throw people off (people often think they are regular publics unless they are "in the know"). Questions about Penn's football team crack me up

Nobody that matters would be confused

You must be fun at parties.

We don’t go to the same parties.

Thank goodness for that.
DP

I hear KFC can really cater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

You realize that Dartmouth is half the size of the average Ivy, right? That means that fewer students get accepted compared to the other Ivies.

DP. Dartmouth hasn't been desirable for quite some time now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

You realize that Dartmouth is half the size of the average Ivy, right? That means that fewer students get accepted compared to the other Ivies.

DP. Dartmouth hasn't been desirable for quite some time now.

How is it not desirable if the RD acceptance rate is 6%? Don't apply if you don't desire it, less competition for the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

Dartmouth was the same as Duke at one and Brown at another. By that logic I guess those larger schools are less popular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

Dartmouth was the same as Duke at one and Brown at another. By that logic I guess those larger schools are less popular.

Dartmouth is #18

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience of a student at a wealthy private is typically very different from the experience at a large public with a limited budget.

Generally speaking, course availability and getting the classes you actually want each semester can be a big difference between the two.

+1000
Just as the experience at an independent HS is very different from that a large public HS. What some people will never understand (ahem, public school parents) is that parents who pay to send their kids to elite HS's aren't interested in having their with the masses at large public colleges, regardless of rankings.

Thanks for talking about the elephant in the room. Why would a parent send their kid to a private/independent school with its small class and individualized attention only to have them go across the country to attend classes with 500 other students at Berkeley or UCLA.

I dunno. But I see a lot of large colleges on the top private schools’ matriculation lists so somebody is. And many of the larger privates have pretty big intro classes too. By your logic, everyone should be going to liberal arts colleges.

I never said that or implied that (ever heard of a mid-sized university?). I did however look at top privates in NYC and it seems very few go to large publics in California (or elsewhere):

https://www.dalton.org/programs/high-school/college-counseling
https://www.horacemann.org/academic-life/college-counseling
https://www.brearley.org/about/college-matriculations-2018-2022
https://trinityschoolnyc.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/390/download/download_4530575.pdf

Interesting to see how Dartmouth isn’t as popular at these elite nyc schools now

Dartmouth was the same as Duke at one and Brown at another. By that logic I guess those larger schools are less popular.

Dartmouth is #18

That's just because US News took away class size, faculty terminal degree, high school graduating percentile, alumni giving, etc, all key indicators of academic and peer quality, as well as student happiness and satisfaction.