Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

Right there with you.

Yes. I was so angry for this reason the first time

I know the feeling. But before and after the last big shutdown we heard from people in the communities we serve telling us to hang in there. It helped us remember that we’re not unappreciated, we’re just getting messed with by a tiny group of people.

Geez we have become so soft as Americans. Your life isn't going to end and you aren't going to be on a bread line. Also, you shouldn't be doing the job if you need to feel appreciated. Do you think the President, any president, feels appreciated? Do you think anyone working at Target as stocker or at Amazon on the warehouse floor feels appreciated?

Stop worrying about what other people think. Our country was built by people who were made of sterner stuff. Eye roll....

Lol, we broke up with England because we didn't feel appreciated.

Human motivation wasn't any different in the bad ol days, that's silly. Appreciation is in the hierarchy of needs and is a huge motivator.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

Right there with you.

Yes. I was so angry for this reason the first time

I know the feeling. But before and after the last big shutdown we heard from people in the communities we serve telling us to hang in there. It helped us remember that we’re not unappreciated, we’re just getting messed with by a tiny group of people.

Geez we have become so soft as Americans. Your life isn't going to end and you aren't going to be on a bread line. Also, you shouldn't be doing the job if you need to feel appreciated. Do you think the President, any president, feels appreciated? Do you think anyone working at Target as stocker or at Amazon on the warehouse floor feels appreciated?

Stop worrying about what other people think. Our country was built by people who were made of sterner stuff. Eye roll....

Lol, we broke up with England because we didn't feel appreciated.

Human motivation wasn't any different in the bad ol days, that's silly. Appreciation is in the hierarchy of needs and is a huge motivator.

I don't think the Continental Congress was whining and feeling depressed because they thought King George didn't appreciate the them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

Right there with you.

Yes. I was so angry for this reason the first time

I know the feeling. But before and after the last big shutdown we heard from people in the communities we serve telling us to hang in there. It helped us remember that we’re not unappreciated, we’re just getting messed with by a tiny group of people.

Geez we have become so soft as Americans. Your life isn't going to end and you aren't going to be on a bread line. Also, you shouldn't be doing the job if you need to feel appreciated. Do you think the President, any president, feels appreciated? Do you think anyone working at Target as stocker or at Amazon on the warehouse floor feels appreciated?

Stop worrying about what other people think. Our country was built by people who were made of sterner stuff. Eye roll....

I hope you never become a manager or leader. This is a horrible perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

Right there with you.

Yes. I was so angry for this reason the first time

I know the feeling. But before and after the last big shutdown we heard from people in the communities we serve telling us to hang in there. It helped us remember that we’re not unappreciated, we’re just getting messed with by a tiny group of people.

Geez we have become so soft as Americans. Your life isn't going to end and you aren't going to be on a bread line. Also, you shouldn't be doing the job if you need to feel appreciated. Do you think the President, any president, feels appreciated? Do you think anyone working at Target as stocker or at Amazon on the warehouse floor feels appreciated?

Stop worrying about what other people think. Our country was built by people who were made of sterner stuff. Eye roll....

I hope you never become a manager or leader. This is a horrible perspective.

It's actually not, it's a reality check regarding how churlish these complaints sound to those less fortunate.

[Anonymous]

Goldman Sachs predicts shutdown at 90 percent.

[Anonymous]

Yea people in gov are very out of touch (not everyone).

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the latest House briefing this am, I’m guessing there will be a shutdown.

prediction event contract at 77% now.

White House is drawing up essential lists. Opm directed to issue guidance.

Does anyone know how often we’ve gotten to this point before and they have worked it out? I can’t remember. I know there’s often shutdown talk and short-term CRs - but what about OPM guidance, etc?

Previous shutdowns don't really relate. There haven't been Congressmen as extreme, rigid and die-hard as the current Freedom Caucus. The whole point is that the federal government is currently being held hostage by a small group of less than 20 extreme Congressmen who are refusing to negotiate in good Faith and a weak speaker who is not willing to use the tools available to him to bypass this small group for fear that he will lose his job.

The Freedom Caucus is a lost cause and they really aren't worth spending the time trying to negotiate with them as they are not willing to negotiate. They are essentially a nuclear option unto themselves. What needs to happen is that McCarthy needs to grow a pair and start to negotiate with the moderate Republicans and the Democrats to see where he can find a middle ground that everyone will both agree to and will also support him retaining the speakership as the lesser of many evils available to them. Once he can find that fine line agreement, then he will have his resolution. But he will have to make a lot of concessions to the Democrats and the moderate Republicans to be able to discount and ignore the unreasonable radical fringe.

Dems need a LOT of concessions to vote for a Republican speaker.

But if they really care to keep it open...

[WHILE HOLDING GOVT HOSTAGE] “It’s a lovely government you have there, be a shame if anything happened to it.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the latest House briefing this am, I’m guessing there will be a shutdown.

prediction event contract at 77% now.

White House is drawing up essential lists. Opm directed to issue guidance.

Does anyone know how often we’ve gotten to this point before and they have worked it out? I can’t remember. I know there’s often shutdown talk and short-term CRs - but what about OPM guidance, etc?

Previous shutdowns don't really relate. There haven't been Congressmen as extreme, rigid and die-hard as the current Freedom Caucus. The whole point is that the federal government is currently being held hostage by a small group of less than 20 extreme Congressmen who are refusing to negotiate in good Faith and a weak speaker who is not willing to use the tools available to him to bypass this small group for fear that he will lose his job.

The Freedom Caucus is a lost cause and they really aren't worth spending the time trying to negotiate with them as they are not willing to negotiate. They are essentially a nuclear option unto themselves. What needs to happen is that McCarthy needs to grow a pair and start to negotiate with the moderate Republicans and the Democrats to see where he can find a middle ground that everyone will both agree to and will also support him retaining the speakership as the lesser of many evils available to them. Once he can find that fine line agreement, then he will have his resolution. But he will have to make a lot of concessions to the Democrats and the moderate Republicans to be able to discount and ignore the unreasonable radical fringe.

Dems need a LOT of concessions to vote for a Republican speaker.

But if they really care to keep it open...

[WHILE HOLDING GOVT HOSTAGE] “It’s a lovely government you have there, be a shame if anything happened to it.”

It's how the crazy Republicans think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watching C-SPAN right now. Rs are have introduced and are arguing for ridiculous bills that still have funding to build the border wall. Ds are using their time to say stop with this silliness and let’s figure out how to keep the government open. None of this is going anywhere.

One way to figure out how to keep the govt open is to do something to manage the flow of illegal arrivals.

If only America had a large governing body that could pass immigration bills and overhaul our immigration laws. Oh wait, they can’t even pass a rule vote on the budget…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

Right there with you.

Yes. I was so angry for this reason the first time

I know the feeling. But before and after the last big shutdown we heard from people in the communities we serve telling us to hang in there. It helped us remember that we’re not unappreciated, we’re just getting messed with by a tiny group of people.

Geez we have become so soft as Americans. Your life isn't going to end and you aren't going to be on a bread line. Also, you shouldn't be doing the job if you need to feel appreciated. Do you think the President, any president, feels appreciated? Do you think anyone working at Target as stocker or at Amazon on the warehouse floor feels appreciated?

Stop worrying about what other people think. Our country was built by people who were made of sterner stuff. Eye roll....

I hope you never become a manager or leader. This is a horrible perspective.

It's actually not, it's a reality check regarding how churlish these complaints sound to those less fortunate.

DP - it’s not churlish to expect your elected officials treat civil servants with decency and respect. This isn’t a one-time problem, it’s a profound lack of consideration.

Moreover, for the umpteenth time, this is not a hardship competition. Very few people respond well to being scolded, so maybe try a different approach if you’re so concerned about us seeming churlish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yea people in gov are very out of touch (not everyone).

There's a general shutdown thread in the Politics Forum. This thread is specifically for federal workers, in the Jobs Forum.

Maybe the problem is that you're lost?

[Anonymous]

Good M orning DCUM! Everyone ready for the House”# “ Hunter, Hunter, Hunter” impeachment inquiry (the new Benghazi! Butter e-mails!) starting today? Pay attention to the bright shiny impeachment and not the fact Rs are spending the two workdays they have left on that, and no funding the government.

The great thing about impeachment is that it is super awesome for bipartisanship and in no way distracts from funding the government. /s

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I don't understand why Fed people complain about this. You know what you signed up for when you work for the Fed. That's expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good M orning DCUM! Everyone ready for the House”# “ Hunter, Hunter, Hunter” impeachment inquiry (the new Benghazi! Butter e-mails!) starting today? Pay attention to the bright shiny impeachment and not the fact Rs are spending the two workdays they have left on that, and no funding the government.

The great thing about impeachment is that it is super awesome for bipartisanship and in no way distracts from funding the government. /s

Are they really doing that today? What nonsense. The only focus should be on keeping the gov't open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs predicts shutdown at 90 percent.

i just realized what this feels like... the weeks before march 10 2020, where the inevitable was roiling yet most of the people here went around like everything was normal, and i tried to prepare the best i could but what are some cans of beans and rolls of toilet paper against a global pandemic?

i don't *want* a shutdown. i would be blissfully happy if i could just work my "stable" little government job without any threat of congress just failing to do THEIR JOB (while still getting their paycheck on time, natch). but after weeks of dread i just want this wave to break so i can sit staring at my walls for a week.

and then desperately hope it won't be for months.

going home for a long weekend and not even having a vote on a piece of junk that has absolutely no hope of passing the senate is just a slap in the face. "we'll vote friday!"

yeah, sure.