Big game? Who cares - The NFL, and football in general is worthless.

[Anonymous]

The whole enterprise leverages historical racist plantation construct and is, in and of itself, systemically racist, exploitative, and most of all, detrimental to the long term health and brain health to mostly minorities who play.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/league-of-denial/

Eff the NFL

Whereas blacks comprise roughly 13% of the population in the USA overall, they make up 70% of the NFL.

If we look at the makeup of positions, Center and QB are really the only positions that are more "white" as a percentage.

https://theundefeated.com/features/the-nfls-racial-divide/

There are now about one third of the teams with starting QBs who are black(up from 5 in 2017) but this still then begs the question of the imbalance of ownership, leadership and management vis-a-vis the player makeup.

So, even given the health repercussions of the game, one could possibly make an argument in its favor if the ownership, leadership and management looked even just a hint of what the player makeup looks like, since there is real danger and detriment to long-term health and brain health/function for those who step on the field. But it doesn't . Not even close:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nfl-racial-divide-one-chart-154059660.html

There is another aspect to this that I won't get into in detail but that is Government "promotion" of this morally corrupt enterprise through favorable tax code, tax incentives and other regulation and zoning.

Another related discussion/debate would be the big business of College Football and its exploitation of minorities vs. the risks of health and brain health as discussed above and how they(and indirectly state governments via tax dollars) subsidize the NFL.

I don't have a solution to propose. Personally, I think that the NFL/Football as it currently exists is dying. It's decline or evolution may be decades in the making but it will need to change drastically or become extinct. I think this is something that people should be aware of but I find in discussing it, most people really haven't given this much thought.

What say you, DCUM?




zyxt

[Anonymous]

how many forums did you spam this screed on?

[Anonymous]

Personally I think the players should revolt.

Why are they still letting old white dudes tell them what to do?

Black coaches? Not many.

UGH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The whole enterprise leverages historical racist plantation construct and is, in and of itself, systemically racist, exploitative, and most of all, detrimental to the long term health and brain health to mostly minorities who play.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/league-of-denial/

Eff the NFL

Whereas blacks comprise roughly 13% of the population in the USA overall, they make up 70% of the NFL.

If we look at the makeup of positions, Center and QB are really the only positions that are more "white" as a percentage.

https://theundefeated.com/features/the-nfls-racial-divide/

There are now about one third of the teams with starting QBs who are black(up from 5 in 2017) but this still then begs the question of the imbalance of ownership, leadership and management vis-a-vis the player makeup.

So, even given the health repercussions of the game, one could possibly make an argument in its favor if the ownership, leadership and management looked even just a hint of what the player makeup looks like, since there is real danger and detriment to long-term health and brain health/function for those who step on the field. But it doesn't . Not even close:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nfl-racial-divide-one-chart-154059660.html

There is another aspect to this that I won't get into in detail but that is Government "promotion" of this morally corrupt enterprise through favorable tax code, tax incentives and other regulation and zoning.

Another related discussion/debate would be the big business of College Football and its exploitation of minorities vs. the risks of health and brain health as discussed above and how they(and indirectly state governments via tax dollars) subsidize the NFL.

I don't have a solution to propose. Personally, I think that the NFL/Football as it currently exists is dying. It's decline or evolution may be decades in the making but it will need to change drastically or become extinct. I think this is something that people should be aware of but I find in discussing it, most people really haven't given this much thought.

What say you, DCUM?




zyxt

I say you are a nutcase and this thread doesn't belong in sports. i think jeff should delete

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I think the players should revolt.

Why are they still letting old white dudes tell them what to do?

Black coaches? Not many.

UGH

3 Black head coaches in the NFL. It's criminal given the makeup of the players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The whole enterprise leverages historical racist plantation construct and is, in and of itself, systemically racist, exploitative, and most of all, detrimental to the long term health and brain health to mostly minorities who play.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/league-of-denial/

Eff the NFL

Whereas blacks comprise roughly 13% of the population in the USA overall, they make up 70% of the NFL.

If we look at the makeup of positions, Center and QB are really the only positions that are more "white" as a percentage.

https://theundefeated.com/features/the-nfls-racial-divide/

There are now about one third of the teams with starting QBs who are black(up from 5 in 2017) but this still then begs the question of the imbalance of ownership, leadership and management vis-a-vis the player makeup.

So, even given the health repercussions of the game, one could possibly make an argument in its favor if the ownership, leadership and management looked even just a hint of what the player makeup looks like, since there is real danger and detriment to long-term health and brain health/function for those who step on the field. But it doesn't . Not even close:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nfl-racial-divide-one-chart-154059660.html

There is another aspect to this that I won't get into in detail but that is Government "promotion" of this morally corrupt enterprise through favorable tax code, tax incentives and other regulation and zoning.

Another related discussion/debate would be the big business of College Football and its exploitation of minorities vs. the risks of health and brain health as discussed above and how they(and indirectly state governments via tax dollars) subsidize the NFL.

I don't have a solution to propose. Personally, I think that the NFL/Football as it currently exists is dying. It's decline or evolution may be decades in the making but it will need to change drastically or become extinct. I think this is something that people should be aware of but I find in discussing it, most people really haven't given this much thought.

What say you, DCUM?




zyxt

I say you are a nutcase and this thread doesn't belong in sports. i think jeff should delete

How is this not "general discussion about sports?"

Do you have anything meaningful to add or just want to cry about an inconvenient truth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I think the players should revolt.

Why are they still letting old white dudes tell them what to do?

Black coaches? Not many.

UGH

Careers average less that 3 years and the vast majority of players are easily replaceable. Those that aren't receive enormous paychecks. Every time the union tries to take a stand during CBA negotiations, they lose badly

[Anonymous]

Is anyone forced to play football and make multiple millions of dollars? No
Shut up.

[Anonymous]

Have you ever listened to the players? Many dgaf even with the brain injury risk.

You feel better now? Even a game like soccer has a lot of cte. Try telling the world that soccer is a plantation system. You’ll be laughed out of the room by many diverse nations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever listened to the players? Many dgaf even with the brain injury risk.

You feel better now? Even a game like soccer has a lot of cte. Try telling the world that soccer is a plantation system. You’ll be laughed out of the room by many diverse nations.

American football, NOT Soccer.


A statistical manipulation that underpaid Black players in concussion settlements exemplifies American football’s immersion in the legacy of slavery:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-nfls-racist-race-norming-is-an-afterlife-of-slavery/

[Anonymous]

Who the hell cares? Get a life, OP.

Personally, I can't wait for the Super Bowl. It always sucks when we realize there is no football for several months. Thank goodness for March Madness, although the amount of Black coaches compared to Black players probably sends some of you into a tailspin. Life is certainly difficult, and we all cope the best we can. I rest easier at night knowing these "student athletes" at least get a free or subsidized education that sets them apart as a member in the upper echelon of world-wide educational privilege.

If Black players want to spend the trillions of dollars they have earned from the sports teams to buy those same teams, they are free to do so. I'm sure they saved enough. MJ certainly did.

OP should make some signs and protest somewhere. Don't forget to get a whistle so people can really hear you.

[Anonymous]

There are some valid points hidden in that looney-tune rant,

But people loose all credibility when they say that 'football is dying'

It's not. It's thriving. And post-pandemic, youth football participation is increasing.

the game is changing and its locked in as the nation's top sport

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who the hell cares? Get a life, OP.

Personally, I can't wait for the Super Bowl. It always sucks when we realize there is no football for several months. Thank goodness for March Madness, although the amount of Black coaches compared to Black players probably sends some of you into a tailspin. Life is certainly difficult, and we all cope the best we can. I rest easier at night knowing these "student athletes" at least get a free or subsidized education that sets them apart as a member in the upper echelon of world-wide educational privilege.

If Black players want to spend the trillions of dollars they have earned from the sports teams to buy those same teams, they are free to do so. I'm sure they saved enough. MJ certainly did.

OP should make some signs and protest somewhere. Don't forget to get a whistle so people can really hear you.

While there is some disparity in Basketball, as one might expect, as well as other sports as well, the NFL really continues to be an outlier in this regard:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/data-shows-how-bad-nfl-s-racial-equality-problem-among-n1288709

And the critical difference is the now known adverse impact on long term brain health due to the repeated sub-concussive hits that are at the very core of the game of football.

The value of the college scholarships are peanuts when measured against the "value" that the institutions receive on the backs of the of all athletes, regardless of race and are only really meaningful if they offer a clause allowing the athlete to return later to complete their studies since many cannot due to the demands and rigor of the sports that they are obligated to play.

The good news here is that they now can benefit from their NIL due new state laws and an NCAA policy change

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-college-athletes-are-getting-paid-from-nil-endorsement-deals-2021-12

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some valid points hidden in that looney-tune rant,

But people loose all credibility when they say that 'football is dying'

It's not. It's thriving. And post-pandemic, youth football participation is increasing.

the game is changing and its locked in as the nation's top sport

Talk about losing credibility - you claim that youth participation is increasing when it's declining:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-01-24/youth-football-participation-declining-amid-safety-concerns

And it will continue to do so - the talent pipeline is drying up as informed parents who understand the real risks to long term brain health opt for more sensible options for sport.

They(NFL) are making a hard pitch for flag football, which I'm sure is increasing, and they are pitching this to woman, which by any measure is welcomed but at the same time only shows how desperate they are.


They game will still need to substantially and fundamentally change more if it is to remain viable in the long term.

[Anonymous]

OP is a moron. Both QBs are black but honestly, who gives a sh&t? Also, I am sure that many of the black athletes she patronizes would be thrilled that a know it all assh$t such as herself would take away their ability to make a seven-figure salary but she knows better, right? She is right about one thing: the NFL is not very diverse when it comes to players. We need more flat-footed white guys to be represented.