Big game? Who cares - The NFL, and football in general is worthless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing football is voluntary. I’d love to see some non-white old men owners.

This, and at this stage you really can't argue that anyone is being tricked into it or doesn't understand the risks. If you have ever talked to a pro football player, they are all in and have zero interest in people like OP "protecting" them from making money playing a game they love and have chosen to play.

Also, pro football players are adults who belong to a union and get a decent amount of financial education and support (from their union, from college programs, etc. -- there's a big push to make sure pro athletes have the tools they need to manage money and make good choices). Most of the major pro leagues in the US (baseball, NBA, football) have good protections in place to help players plan for their time after playing, get access to quality health care, take care of their families, etc. Are the leagues perfect? No. But they have strong unions that work to protect players, which is more than can be said for 99% of workers in this country.

Compare that to sports where the athletes are often minors, are subject to many of the same physical risks, and there is an actual history of true abuse and exploitation. Women's gymnastics, for instance. The US gymnastics team employed an actual pedophile FOR YEARS who was allowed to treat girls as young as 9 or 10 years old without another adult present, while these girls were staying at training facilities away from their families. You want to compare the NFL to the plantations system? NFL players get paychecks, are adults, and can leave whenever they want.

Anyway, the fact that the owners are mostly rich guys born to rich parents is an indictment of the American class system, not football itself. We could eliminate the NFL tomorrow and those guys would still be rich and still find a way to take advantage of their wealth in order to put other people (especially people from poor backgrounds, especially POC) under their control. That's how our capitalist system works. Again, at least NFL players have unions! And make decent money. How about all the rich white guys who own news outlets and pay journalists, who perform a vital public service, poverty wages and gatekeeper so mostly only other rich white people can enter the industry? What about all the rich white guys who own manufacturing companies that outsource all their factories to countries with minimal labor laws and employ children and people in poverty to crank out consumer goods? What about all the rich white guys who control the American food industry and exploit migrant workers for cheap labor while also railing against immigrants in their politics?

The idea that the NFL is somehow a problem and people should stop playing/watching a game they enjoy because of social justice is laughable. I get it, you don't like football. That's fine, go find something else to do on Sunday and leave us alone.

[Anonymous]

100 million + viewers will watch the game worldwide.

No one will miss you pp. zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing football is voluntary. I’d love to see some non-white old men owners.

This, and at this stage you really can't argue that anyone is being tricked into it or doesn't understand the risks. If you have ever talked to a pro football player, they are all in and have zero interest in people like OP "protecting" them from making money playing a game they love and have chosen to play.

Also, pro football players are adults who belong to a union and get a decent amount of financial education and support (from their union, from college programs, etc. -- there's a big push to make sure pro athletes have the tools they need to manage money and make good choices). Most of the major pro leagues in the US (baseball, NBA, football) have good protections in place to help players plan for their time after playing, get access to quality health care, take care of their families, etc. Are the leagues perfect? No. But they have strong unions that work to protect players, which is more than can be said for 99% of workers in this country.

Compare that to sports where the athletes are often minors, are subject to many of the same physical risks, and there is an actual history of true abuse and exploitation. Women's gymnastics, for instance. The US gymnastics team employed an actual pedophile FOR YEARS who was allowed to treat girls as young as 9 or 10 years old without another adult present, while these girls were staying at training facilities away from their families. You want to compare the NFL to the plantations system? NFL players get paychecks, are adults, and can leave whenever they want.

Anyway, the fact that the owners are mostly rich guys born to rich parents is an indictment of the American class system, not football itself. We could eliminate the NFL tomorrow and those guys would still be rich and still find a way to take advantage of their wealth in order to put other people (especially people from poor backgrounds, especially POC) under their control. That's how our capitalist system works. Again, at least NFL players have unions! And make decent money. How about all the rich white guys who own news outlets and pay journalists, who perform a vital public service, poverty wages and gatekeeper so mostly only other rich white people can enter the industry? What about all the rich white guys who own manufacturing companies that outsource all their factories to countries with minimal labor laws and employ children and people in poverty to crank out consumer goods? What about all the rich white guys who control the American food industry and exploit migrant workers for cheap labor while also railing against immigrants in their politics?

The idea that the NFL is somehow a problem and people should stop playing/watching a game they enjoy because of social justice is laughable. I get it, you don't like football. That's fine, go find something else to do on Sunday and leave us alone.

+100

Plus, dollars to donuts, I bet half these self-righteous anti-NFL dorks watched every minute they could of the World Cup (despite not watching a minute of since the last world cup 4 years ag0), called it 'the real football', acted superior, and totally ignored all the corruption, explotation and human right violations associated with that sport.

Just STFU and let us watch the sports we like

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing football is voluntary. I’d love to see some non-white old men owners.

This, and at this stage you really can't argue that anyone is being tricked into it or doesn't understand the risks. If you have ever talked to a pro football player, they are all in and have zero interest in people like OP "protecting" them from making money playing a game they love and have chosen to play.

Also, pro football players are adults who belong to a union and get a decent amount of financial education and support (from their union, from college programs, etc. -- there's a big push to make sure pro athletes have the tools they need to manage money and make good choices). Most of the major pro leagues in the US (baseball, NBA, football) have good protections in place to help players plan for their time after playing, get access to quality health care, take care of their families, etc. Are the leagues perfect? No. But they have strong unions that work to protect players, which is more than can be said for 99% of workers in this country.

Compare that to sports where the athletes are often minors, are subject to many of the same physical risks, and there is an actual history of true abuse and exploitation. Women's gymnastics, for instance. The US gymnastics team employed an actual pedophile FOR YEARS who was allowed to treat girls as young as 9 or 10 years old without another adult present, while these girls were staying at training facilities away from their families. You want to compare the NFL to the plantations system? NFL players get paychecks, are adults, and can leave whenever they want.

Anyway, the fact that the owners are mostly rich guys born to rich parents is an indictment of the American class system, not football itself. We could eliminate the NFL tomorrow and those guys would still be rich and still find a way to take advantage of their wealth in order to put other people (especially people from poor backgrounds, especially POC) under their control. That's how our capitalist system works. Again, at least NFL players have unions! And make decent money. How about all the rich white guys who own news outlets and pay journalists, who perform a vital public service, poverty wages and gatekeeper so mostly only other rich white people can enter the industry? What about all the rich white guys who own manufacturing companies that outsource all their factories to countries with minimal labor laws and employ children and people in poverty to crank out consumer goods? What about all the rich white guys who control the American food industry and exploit migrant workers for cheap labor while also railing against immigrants in their politics?

The idea that the NFL is somehow a problem and people should stop playing/watching a game they enjoy because of social justice is laughable. I get it, you don't like football. That's fine, go find something else to do on Sunday and leave us alone.

+100

Plus, dollars to donuts, I bet half these self-righteous anti-NFL dorks watched every minute they could of the World Cup (despite not watching a minute of since the last world cup 4 years ag0), called it 'the real football', acted superior, and totally ignored all the corruption, explotation and human right violations associated with that sport.

Just STFU and let us watch the sports we like

This. If you are worked up about the NFL being a "plantation system" and the Super Bowl being overly commercialized, but follow international soccer and claim it's somehow a better sport, I dare you to explain the economics and politics of the World Cup to me. They sold the World Cup to a country that used slave labor to build the stadiums, many of those people died, and then women and LGBTQ+ people were afraid to attend because of the politics of the host country and those stadiums were half full due to low attendance.

The NFL is flawed and I loathe Roger Goodell and think a lot of the owners are parasites, but football itself is an entertaining sport played by amazing, skilled athletes. There are far worse examples of exploitative sports in the world, starting with soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some valid points hidden in that looney-tune rant,

But people loose all credibility when they say that 'football is dying'

It's not. It's thriving. And post-pandemic, youth football participation is increasing.

the game is changing and its locked in as the nation's top sport

Talk about losing credibility - you claim that youth participation is increasing when it's declining:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-01-24/youth-football-participation-declining-amid-safety-concerns

And it will continue to do so - the talent pipeline is drying up as informed parents who understand the real risks to long term brain health opt for more sensible options for sport.

They(NFL) are making a hard pitch for flag football, which I'm sure is increasing, and they are pitching this to woman, which by any measure is welcomed but at the same time only shows how desperate they are.


They game will still need to substantially and fundamentally change more if it is to remain viable in the long term.

Gee, I wonder what was happening in the 21-22 school year that may have caused football participation to plummet.

Locally, football is increasing: fredericknewspost.com/sports/level/high_school/numbers-are-up-in-football-programs-across-the-county/article_aab5a040-a674-5b6a-af8b-a1ce3c4d4d78.html

For the first time in years, schools are actuallying having to cut players.

It's not what it appears. If you read the article completely, you'll find:

" [...] For one, school enrollments are increasing dramatically across the board ahead of reclassification next year.

Oakdale, which straddled the line between Class 2A and 3A for a long time, is now pushing 4A status. So are Linganore and Frederick High, two longtime 3A schools, and Thomas Johnson, which used to be a 4A school before dropping to 3A. [...]"


So the "increase" in the numbers in this particular small, local instance(Fredrick Co. MD) of perceived increase, is due not to the increase of popularity or interest, it is due to an increase in overall enrollment in the school system, school populations are in some cases almost doubling in size in a very short period of time. In other words, the data need to be normalized or looked at on a "per-capita" basis.

Overall on a larger scale nationally youth participation in contact football has been trending down, not just during COVID, but it's now been trending down for about 15 years and there is no end in sight. Which of course makes sense since there is much better awareness overall of the adverse impact on long term brain health due to the repeated sub-concussive blows that are at the very core nature of the game - there's just no getting around that fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone forced to play football and make multiple millions of dollars? No
Shut up.

x1000000

[Anonymous]

Football and football culture is trashy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever listened to the players? Many dgaf even with the brain injury risk.

You feel better now? Even a game like soccer has a lot of cte. Try telling the world that soccer is a plantation system. You’ll be laughed out of the room by many diverse nations.

Good point, lets listen to what some of the players have to say:



▶PLAY VIDEO▶

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever listened to the players? Many dgaf even with the brain injury risk.

You feel better now? Even a game like soccer has a lot of cte. Try telling the world that soccer is a plantation system. You’ll be laughed out of the room by many diverse nations.

Good point, lets listen to what some of the players have to say:



▶PLAY VIDEO▶

You can make the same video with any company. The thing is, that league made them very wealthy. They could have decided against playing and then go to a job outside of football, but guess what? They didn't. If it's such a bad thing, return your money you made off the league and go play golf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing football is voluntary. I’d love to see some non-white old men owners.

This, and at this stage you really can't argue that anyone is being tricked into it or doesn't understand the risks. If you have ever talked to a pro football player, they are all in and have zero interest in people like OP "protecting" them from making money playing a game they love and have chosen to play.

Also, pro football players are adults who belong to a union and get a decent amount of financial education and support (from their union, from college programs, etc. -- there's a big push to make sure pro athletes have the tools they need to manage money and make good choices). Most of the major pro leagues in the US (baseball, NBA, football) have good protections in place to help players plan for their time after playing, get access to quality health care, take care of their families, etc. Are the leagues perfect? No. But they have strong unions that work to protect players, which is more than can be said for 99% of workers in this country.

Compare that to sports where the athletes are often minors, are subject to many of the same physical risks, and there is an actual history of true abuse and exploitation. Women's gymnastics, for instance. The US gymnastics team employed an actual pedophile FOR YEARS who was allowed to treat girls as young as 9 or 10 years old without another adult present, while these girls were staying at training facilities away from their families. You want to compare the NFL to the plantations system? NFL players get paychecks, are adults, and can leave whenever they want.

Anyway, the fact that the owners are mostly rich guys born to rich parents is an indictment of the American class system, not football itself. We could eliminate the NFL tomorrow and those guys would still be rich and still find a way to take advantage of their wealth in order to put other people (especially people from poor backgrounds, especially POC) under their control. That's how our capitalist system works. Again, at least NFL players have unions! And make decent money. How about all the rich white guys who own news outlets and pay journalists, who perform a vital public service, poverty wages and gatekeeper so mostly only other rich white people can enter the industry? What about all the rich white guys who own manufacturing companies that outsource all their factories to countries with minimal labor laws and employ children and people in poverty to crank out consumer goods? What about all the rich white guys who control the American food industry and exploit migrant workers for cheap labor while also railing against immigrants in their politics?

The idea that the NFL is somehow a problem and people should stop playing/watching a game they enjoy because of social justice is laughable. I get it, you don't like football. That's fine, go find something else to do on Sunday and leave us alone.

+100

Plus, dollars to donuts, I bet half these self-righteous anti-NFL dorks watched every minute they could of the World Cup (despite not watching a minute of since the last world cup 4 years ag0), called it 'the real football', acted superior, and totally ignored all the corruption, explotation and human right violations associated with that sport.

Just STFU and let us watch the sports we like

This. If you are worked up about the NFL being a "plantation system" and the Super Bowl being overly commercialized, but follow international soccer and claim it's somehow a better sport, I dare you to explain the economics and politics of the World Cup to me. They sold the World Cup to a country that used slave labor to build the stadiums, many of those people died, and then women and LGBTQ+ people were afraid to attend because of the politics of the host country and those stadiums were half full due to low attendance.

The NFL is flawed and I loathe Roger Goodell and think a lot of the owners are parasites, but football itself is an entertaining sport played by amazing, skilled athletes. There are far worse examples of exploitative sports in the world, starting with soccer.

Classic deflection / "whataboutism" -- Not once has Soccer been raised as a model or blueprint for the NFL/football to follow so why do all the football fans insist on bringing up the flaws of Soccer to somehow defend the issues of the NFL/football that have been raised? It provides no defense to the issues raised about Football.

Having said that - the one very obvious difference between the two is there isn't the risk of adverse impact on long-term brain health associated with playing Soccer that there is in Football.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing football is voluntary. I’d love to see some non-white old men owners.

This, and at this stage you really can't argue that anyone is being tricked into it or doesn't understand the risks. If you have ever talked to a pro football player, they are all in and have zero interest in people like OP "protecting" them from making money playing a game they love and have chosen to play.

Also, pro football players are adults who belong to a union and get a decent amount of financial education and support (from their union, from college programs, etc. -- there's a big push to make sure pro athletes have the tools they need to manage money and make good choices). Most of the major pro leagues in the US (baseball, NBA, football) have good protections in place to help players plan for their time after playing, get access to quality health care, take care of their families, etc. Are the leagues perfect? No. But they have strong unions that work to protect players, which is more than can be said for 99% of workers in this country.

Compare that to sports where the athletes are often minors, are subject to many of the same physical risks, and there is an actual history of true abuse and exploitation. Women's gymnastics, for instance. The US gymnastics team employed an actual pedophile FOR YEARS who was allowed to treat girls as young as 9 or 10 years old without another adult present, while these girls were staying at training facilities away from their families. You want to compare the NFL to the plantations system? NFL players get paychecks, are adults, and can leave whenever they want.

Anyway, the fact that the owners are mostly rich guys born to rich parents is an indictment of the American class system, not football itself. We could eliminate the NFL tomorrow and those guys would still be rich and still find a way to take advantage of their wealth in order to put other people (especially people from poor backgrounds, especially POC) under their control. That's how our capitalist system works. Again, at least NFL players have unions! And make decent money. How about all the rich white guys who own news outlets and pay journalists, who perform a vital public service, poverty wages and gatekeeper so mostly only other rich white people can enter the industry? What about all the rich white guys who own manufacturing companies that outsource all their factories to countries with minimal labor laws and employ children and people in poverty to crank out consumer goods? What about all the rich white guys who control the American food industry and exploit migrant workers for cheap labor while also railing against immigrants in their politics?

The idea that the NFL is somehow a problem and people should stop playing/watching a game they enjoy because of social justice is laughable. I get it, you don't like football. That's fine, go find something else to do on Sunday and leave us alone.

+100

Plus, dollars to donuts, I bet half these self-righteous anti-NFL dorks watched every minute they could of the World Cup (despite not watching a minute of since the last world cup 4 years ag0), called it 'the real football', acted superior, and totally ignored all the corruption, explotation and human right violations associated with that sport.

Just STFU and let us watch the sports we like

This. If you are worked up about the NFL being a "plantation system" and the Super Bowl being overly commercialized, but follow international soccer and claim it's somehow a better sport, I dare you to explain the economics and politics of the World Cup to me. They sold the World Cup to a country that used slave labor to build the stadiums, many of those people died, and then women and LGBTQ+ people were afraid to attend because of the politics of the host country and those stadiums were half full due to low attendance.

The NFL is flawed and I loathe Roger Goodell and think a lot of the owners are parasites, but football itself is an entertaining sport played by amazing, skilled athletes. There are far worse examples of exploitative sports in the world, starting with soccer.

Classic deflection / "whataboutism" -- Not once has Soccer been raised as a model or blueprint for the NFL/football to follow so why do all the football fans insist on bringing up the flaws of Soccer to somehow defend the issues of the NFL/football that have been raised? It provides no defense to the issues raised about Football.

Having said that - the one very obvious difference between the two is there isn't the risk of adverse impact on long-term brain health associated with playing Soccer that there is in Football.

Umm… yes there is. Maybe do some research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing football is voluntary. I’d love to see some non-white old men owners.

This, and at this stage you really can't argue that anyone is being tricked into it or doesn't understand the risks. If you have ever talked to a pro football player, they are all in and have zero interest in people like OP "protecting" them from making money playing a game they love and have chosen to play.

Also, pro football players are adults who belong to a union and get a decent amount of financial education and support (from their union, from college programs, etc. -- there's a big push to make sure pro athletes have the tools they need to manage money and make good choices). Most of the major pro leagues in the US (baseball, NBA, football) have good protections in place to help players plan for their time after playing, get access to quality health care, take care of their families, etc. Are the leagues perfect? No. But they have strong unions that work to protect players, which is more than can be said for 99% of workers in this country.

Compare that to sports where the athletes are often minors, are subject to many of the same physical risks, and there is an actual history of true abuse and exploitation. Women's gymnastics, for instance. The US gymnastics team employed an actual pedophile FOR YEARS who was allowed to treat girls as young as 9 or 10 years old without another adult present, while these girls were staying at training facilities away from their families. You want to compare the NFL to the plantations system? NFL players get paychecks, are adults, and can leave whenever they want.

Anyway, the fact that the owners are mostly rich guys born to rich parents is an indictment of the American class system, not football itself. We could eliminate the NFL tomorrow and those guys would still be rich and still find a way to take advantage of their wealth in order to put other people (especially people from poor backgrounds, especially POC) under their control. That's how our capitalist system works. Again, at least NFL players have unions! And make decent money. How about all the rich white guys who own news outlets and pay journalists, who perform a vital public service, poverty wages and gatekeeper so mostly only other rich white people can enter the industry? What about all the rich white guys who own manufacturing companies that outsource all their factories to countries with minimal labor laws and employ children and people in poverty to crank out consumer goods? What about all the rich white guys who control the American food industry and exploit migrant workers for cheap labor while also railing against immigrants in their politics?

The idea that the NFL is somehow a problem and people should stop playing/watching a game they enjoy because of social justice is laughable. I get it, you don't like football. That's fine, go find something else to do on Sunday and leave us alone.

+100

Plus, dollars to donuts, I bet half these self-righteous anti-NFL dorks watched every minute they could of the World Cup (despite not watching a minute of since the last world cup 4 years ag0), called it 'the real football', acted superior, and totally ignored all the corruption, explotation and human right violations associated with that sport.

Just STFU and let us watch the sports we like

This. If you are worked up about the NFL being a "plantation system" and the Super Bowl being overly commercialized, but follow international soccer and claim it's somehow a better sport, I dare you to explain the economics and politics of the World Cup to me. They sold the World Cup to a country that used slave labor to build the stadiums, many of those people died, and then women and LGBTQ+ people were afraid to attend because of the politics of the host country and those stadiums were half full due to low attendance.

The NFL is flawed and I loathe Roger Goodell and think a lot of the owners are parasites, but football itself is an entertaining sport played by amazing, skilled athletes. There are far worse examples of exploitative sports in the world, starting with soccer.

Classic deflection / "whataboutism" -- Not once has Soccer been raised as a model or blueprint for the NFL/football to follow so why do all the football fans insist on bringing up the flaws of Soccer to somehow defend the issues of the NFL/football that have been raised? It provides no defense to the issues raised about Football.

Having said that - the one very obvious difference between the two is there isn't the risk of adverse impact on long-term brain health associated with playing Soccer that there is in Football.

The point is that EVERY sport exploits the young and the poor.

But people call out football All. The. Time. Without applying that same criticism to other sports.

For example, I have a super pretentious brother in law who proclaimed a few years "I can no longer, in good conscience, watch the NFL or College Football. I'll be outside getting fresh air each Sunday instead." And then literally took a week off of work to watch the World Cup.

[Anonymous]

Slow clap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing football is voluntary. I’d love to see some non-white old men owners.

This, and at this stage you really can't argue that anyone is being tricked into it or doesn't understand the risks. If you have ever talked to a pro football player, they are all in and have zero interest in people like OP "protecting" them from making money playing a game they love and have chosen to play.

Also, pro football players are adults who belong to a union and get a decent amount of financial education and support (from their union, from college programs, etc. -- there's a big push to make sure pro athletes have the tools they need to manage money and make good choices). Most of the major pro leagues in the US (baseball, NBA, football) have good protections in place to help players plan for their time after playing, get access to quality health care, take care of their families, etc. Are the leagues perfect? No. But they have strong unions that work to protect players, which is more than can be said for 99% of workers in this country.

Compare that to sports where the athletes are often minors, are subject to many of the same physical risks, and there is an actual history of true abuse and exploitation. Women's gymnastics, for instance. The US gymnastics team employed an actual pedophile FOR YEARS who was allowed to treat girls as young as 9 or 10 years old without another adult present, while these girls were staying at training facilities away from their families. You want to compare the NFL to the plantations system? NFL players get paychecks, are adults, and can leave whenever they want.

Anyway, the fact that the owners are mostly rich guys born to rich parents is an indictment of the American class system, not football itself. We could eliminate the NFL tomorrow and those guys would still be rich and still find a way to take advantage of their wealth in order to put other people (especially people from poor backgrounds, especially POC) under their control. That's how our capitalist system works. Again, at least NFL players have unions! And make decent money. How about all the rich white guys who own news outlets and pay journalists, who perform a vital public service, poverty wages and gatekeeper so mostly only other rich white people can enter the industry? What about all the rich white guys who own manufacturing companies that outsource all their factories to countries with minimal labor laws and employ children and people in poverty to crank out consumer goods? What about all the rich white guys who control the American food industry and exploit migrant workers for cheap labor while also railing against immigrants in their politics?

The idea that the NFL is somehow a problem and people should stop playing/watching a game they enjoy because of social justice is laughable. I get it, you don't like football. That's fine, go find something else to do on Sunday and leave us alone.

+100

Plus, dollars to donuts, I bet half these self-righteous anti-NFL dorks watched every minute they could of the World Cup (despite not watching a minute of since the last world cup 4 years ag0), called it 'the real football', acted superior, and totally ignored all the corruption, explotation and human right violations associated with that sport.

Just STFU and let us watch the sports we like

This. If you are worked up about the NFL being a "plantation system" and the Super Bowl being overly commercialized, but follow international soccer and claim it's somehow a better sport, I dare you to explain the economics and politics of the World Cup to me. They sold the World Cup to a country that used slave labor to build the stadiums, many of those people died, and then women and LGBTQ+ people were afraid to attend because of the politics of the host country and those stadiums were half full due to low attendance.

The NFL is flawed and I loathe Roger Goodell and think a lot of the owners are parasites, but football itself is an entertaining sport played by amazing, skilled athletes. There are far worse examples of exploitative sports in the world, starting with soccer.

Classic deflection / "whataboutism" -- Not once has Soccer been raised as a model or blueprint for the NFL/football to follow so why do all the football fans insist on bringing up the flaws of Soccer to somehow defend the issues of the NFL/football that have been raised? It provides no defense to the issues raised about Football.

Having said that - the one very obvious difference between the two is there isn't the risk of adverse impact on long-term brain health associated with playing Soccer that there is in Football.

Umm… yes there is. Maybe do some research.

I like the hitting, as long as it's within the rules and not a shot to the head. Girls and slender boys in short pants prefer soccer, I understand that.

[Anonymous]

I wonder why rugby never caught on here? That's like NFL sized guys with no pads!!
Maybe it's that a forward lateral is allowed in rugby. I dunno, that just doesn't sit right with me for some reason.