Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/15/flight_370_disappearance_why_i_think_the_missing_airliner_could_be_in_central.html

thought this was well put together.
This whole thing is distressing and I wish I could stop thinking about the passengers and trying to imagine what they went through.

Wow! This puts a whole new spin on this perplexing mystery! Suddenly the argument against the plane flying north ceases!

I'm quite sure the passengers and crew are gone now, sadly. But the plane??

The scientists on board also raise questions. Does anyone know more about them? Why were so many employees of the same company traveling together? If someone wanted to kidnap them, wouldn't it have been a whole lot easier to kidnap them on the ground, instead of hijacking a whole airplane and killing a lot of innocent people?

Then again, it may have been a hijacking gone wrong, and the plane is at the bottom of the ocean. We may never know.

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Looks more and more like a hijacking now. Sad, sorry, sick situation. Can't imagine the inhumanity of a person or group who would kill all those people, including several young children. It's still possible it was a hijacking with an incompetent pilot who thought he was flying the plane north, but went south and ran out of fuel and fell into the ocean.

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Not a single known signal was made by the passengers.

This factor, if true, suggests they were killed as it would be difficult for even a large organized group of highjackers to collect all the communication devices before a message got off.

It also suggests they were all killed quickly- probably by depressurization of the cabin - which would cause unconsciousness within seconds and death within minutes.

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I haven't read all of these pages, but I have a question perhaps someone can address:

- if the airplane apparently flew for hours after the radar transponder was turned off, how was it not detected by another country / radar / control tower / something? How did no one spot the airplane in the air?

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I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

NP here and you missed the point by a mile.

No, I get PP's point completely. They're saying that a plane could go undetected because BL was undetected. But they're kind of vastly different things. Smuggling a person into town and keeping them house-bound, paying off a few neighborhood people, id VASTLY different than landing a massive airliner that needs a vast runway, in a highly populated country. Someone would have seen something. You can smuggle a person through Pakistan's very rugged northern mountains, but not a massive airliner. And southern Pakistan is actually significantly more moderate (not to mention highly populated). Someone would have spilled something.

PP has just been watching too much TV.

Pakistan has major airports -- it's not like they'd have to land the plane on a highway and hope for the best. In terms of someone seeing something -- if something like this was planned (not saying it was) -- people in air traffic control, airport operations etc. were paid off and it was done at a time where the least number of people were around. And if a bystander who wasn't paid off just happened to see something -- well this isn't the U.S. where there are whistleblower protections. Places like that are a lot different -- people see atrocities and look the other way bc they know that reporting it put their own/their families lives in jeopardy. It's not like here where you could put out a public bulletin asking anyone who may have seen anything to call the FBI and receive thousands of calls -- people there aren't going to "make trouble."

Yes, Pakistan has major airports. I've been to a couple of them. I'd be pretty damn positive we (the US) has eyes on them, and there are a HELL of a lot of people working those airport, and in close proximity. What do you think - they land a plane at Karachi's main airport at night, and then wheel it down the roads in the middle of the night to a secret location? You really think it's possible to hide a 777 like that? Those airports have been operating around the clock, as they usually do. You think no one would have seen something odd, all this time? You're really wasting time on fictional movie plots, and not actual reality. Please stop it. You are either very, very dumb, or very ignorant, or a shit stirrer.

There is no need to get ugly. As far as movie plots go, this one has been the same as many movie plots thus far. 9/11 as a movie -- no one would have believed that story before it happened.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all of these pages, but I have a question perhaps someone can address:

- if the airplane apparently flew for hours after the radar transponder was turned off, how was it not detected by another country / radar / control tower / something? How did no one spot the airplane in the air?

They flew over water and away from military radar. The transponder makes them visible to civilian ATC.

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I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

NP here and you missed the point by a mile.

No, I get PP's point completely. They're saying that a plane could go undetected because BL was undetected. But they're kind of vastly different things. Smuggling a person into town and keeping them house-bound, paying off a few neighborhood people, id VASTLY different than landing a massive airliner that needs a vast runway, in a highly populated country. Someone would have seen something. You can smuggle a person through Pakistan's very rugged northern mountains, but not a massive airliner. And southern Pakistan is actually significantly more moderate (not to mention highly populated). Someone would have spilled something.

PP has just been watching too much TV.

Pakistan has major airports -- it's not like they'd have to land the plane on a highway and hope for the best. In terms of someone seeing something -- if something like this was planned (not saying it was) -- people in air traffic control, airport operations etc. were paid off and it was done at a time where the least number of people were around. And if a bystander who wasn't paid off just happened to see something -- well this isn't the U.S. where there are whistleblower protections. Places like that are a lot different -- people see atrocities and look the other way bc they know that reporting it put their own/their families lives in jeopardy. It's not like here where you could put out a public bulletin asking anyone who may have seen anything to call the FBI and receive thousands of calls -- people there aren't going to "make trouble."

Yes, Pakistan has major airports. I've been to a couple of them. I'd be pretty damn positive we (the US) has eyes on them, and there are a HELL of a lot of people working those airport, and in close proximity. What do you think - they land a plane at Karachi's main airport at night, and then wheel it down the roads in the middle of the night to a secret location? You really think it's possible to hide a 777 like that? Those airports have been operating around the clock, as they usually do. You think no one would have seen something odd, all this time? You're really wasting time on fictional movie plots, and not actual reality. Please stop it. You are either very, very dumb, or very ignorant, or a shit stirrer.

There is no need to get ugly. As far as movie plots go, this one has been the same as many movie plots thus far. 9/11 as a movie -- no one would have believed that story before it happened.

Sorry if that's perceived as "ugly," but it remains fact. If we're speculating based on things with no evidence that could be movie plots, then the field is completely wild open. Amelia Earhart could have hijacked it - it hasn't been dis-proven. Or aliens. No evidence to point against it, so why not?

In these kinds of events, speculation is to be expected, but you need some kind of realistic paradigm based on information at hand. I know the media likes to jump to wild conclusions, but it (and you) are not helping, with the wild, not-thought out hypotheses. There really is nothing to suggest that Pakistan has any connection, at all, in any way whatever except for some media fearmongering hype. Stop encouraging that.

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It really could be aliens?

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Anonymous wrote:It really could be aliens?

At this point, you can't prove that flight 370's disappearance was NOT caused by aliens. It's on the table.

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Anonymous wrote:It really could be aliens?

I'm pretty sure alien technology would be advanced enough to not have to do all that flying around to avoid our radar They'd just use a tractor beam, cloaking device, a transporter or something Gene hadn't thought of.

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I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.


They want the passengers, not the plane.


pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!


Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?


Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?


NP here and you missed the point by a mile.


No, I get PP's point completely. They're saying that a plane could go undetected because BL was undetected. But they're kind of vastly different things. Smuggling a person into town and keeping them house-bound, paying off a few neighborhood people, id VASTLY different than landing a massive airliner that needs a vast runway, in a highly populated country. Someone would have seen something. You can smuggle a person through Pakistan's very rugged northern mountains, but not a massive airliner. And southern Pakistan is actually significantly more moderate (not to mention highly populated). Someone would have spilled something.

PP has just been watching too much TV.


Pakistan has major airports -- it's not like they'd have to land the plane on a highway and hope for the best. In terms of someone seeing something -- if something like this was planned (not saying it was) -- people in air traffic control, airport operations etc. were paid off and it was done at a time where the least number of people were around. And if a bystander who wasn't paid off just happened to see something -- well this isn't the U.S. where there are whistleblower protections. Places like that are a lot different -- people see atrocities and look the other way bc they know that reporting it put their own/their families lives in jeopardy. It's not like here where you could put out a public bulletin asking anyone who may have seen anything to call the FBI and receive thousands of calls -- people there aren't going to "make trouble."


Yes, Pakistan has major airports. I've been to a couple of them. I'd be pretty damn positive we (the US) has eyes on them, and there are a HELL of a lot of people working those airport, and in close proximity. What do you think - they land a plane at Karachi's main airport at night, and then wheel it down the roads in the middle of the night to a secret location? You really think it's possible to hide a 777 like that? Those airports have been operating around the clock, as they usually do. You think no one would have seen something odd, all this time? You're really wasting time on fictional movie plots, and not actual reality. Please stop it. You are either very, very dumb, or very ignorant, or a shit stirrer.


There is no need to get ugly. As far as movie plots go, this one has been the same as many movie plots thus far. 9/11 as a movie -- no one would have believed that story before it happened.

Please people in the aviation and security industries talked about it all the time. Like after they stopped an incident in the 90's. So no it was not really a surprise.

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Anonymous wrote:It really could be aliens?

I'm pretty sure alien technology would be advanced enough to not have to do all that flying around to avoid our radar They'd just use a tractor beam, cloaking device, a transporter or something Gene hadn't thought of.

Maybe they did. Maybe the pilots struggled against the beam which accounts for the erratic flight path. The aliens could have shut off our transmitters.

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Anonymous wrote:It really could be aliens?

I'm pretty sure alien technology would be advanced enough to not have to do all that flying around to avoid our radar They'd just use a tractor beam, cloaking device, a transporter or something Gene hadn't thought of.

Maybe they did. Maybe the pilots struggled against the beam which accounts for the erratic flight path. The aliens could have shut off our transmitters.

Damn. The aliens are always one step ahead.

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Chances are that the captain was so upset with the news of his leader being jailed, that he acted irrationally by taking the passengers hostage( maybe with the idea of negotiating their release with his leader's? ). Per the news sources though, it appears this was carefully preplanned much ahead of time. All speculations at this point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/15/flight_370_disappearance_why_i_think_the_missing_airliner_could_be_in_central.html

thought this was well put together.
This whole thing is distressing and I wish I could stop thinking about the passengers and trying to imagine what they went through.

So many people are saying it's more logical that it's in the southern corridor, and we haven't found the plane because it's at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, but I agree with his analysis. I don't understand the logic of selecting a flight that was scheduled to fly North, in order to fly South. That is wasting time and fuel. If they were going South, why not pick a flight that was bound for Australia? Also, there is no indication that the plane crashed. The ping that he references would have been at 6:10 a.m. in Kazakhstan, which is before sunrise. It would not have had to fly over India, Pakistan, or Afghanistan. By all accounts, the -Stan countries are trying to rout out al-Queda, but they're small and not as sophisticated. Maybe it was another group, and maybe the plane wasn't going to be used again, but is a source of income. The parts are valuable. I just hope that we find out. And, soon.