Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

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Anonymous wrote:It would be incredibly dumb for N. Korea to have done it. They would face the wrath of China and they are already unpopular in their region of the world. It would give so many countries a good reason to invade them and topple the regime.

With all the attention on N Korea, don't you think they're monitoring planes? ("They" meaning "us".)

Even if we knew where it was, Malaysia is leading the investigation.

Does Malaysia know what it is doing in leading the investigation?

Malaysia doesn't have much of a choice - they are required by international treaty to lead the investigation, until a wreckage if found (at that point, if its found in the waters of another country, that other country takes over).

Malaysia does not have anywhere close to the resources, labor, equipment, technology, experience, etc as we do with these things. Not having the same capacity does not mean they're not trying.

Aren't there like 25 countries involved now?

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I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

Because they have lots of oil and money. So we are allies because the US is probably their biggest customer and they can use our military and world power and money to protect them if need be. But SA is also very conservative and disapproves of the Western lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be incredibly dumb for N. Korea to have done it. They would face the wrath of China and they are already unpopular in their region of the world. It would give so many countries a good reason to invade them and topple the regime.

With all the attention on N Korea, don't you think they're monitoring planes? ("They" meaning "us".)

Even if we knew where it was, Malaysia is leading the investigation.

Does Malaysia know what it is doing in leading the investigation?

Malaysia doesn't have much of a choice - they are required by international treaty to lead the investigation, until a wreckage if found (at that point, if its found in the waters of another country, that other country takes over).

Malaysia does not have anywhere close to the resources, labor, equipment, technology, experience, etc as we do with these things. Not having the same capacity does not mean they're not trying.

Something like 25 countries are "offering assistance" to Malaysia, with Malaysia's request and/or acceptance - they still have to take the lead. But that "assistance" varies enormously. Some, like India, have already said that they are scaling back.

Aren't there like 25 countries involved now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

Because they have lots of oil and money. So we are allies because the US is probably their biggest customer and they can use our military and world power and money to protect them if need be. But SA is also very conservative and disapproves of the Western lifestyle.

Every nation-state will sell out ethics and values for money. The US and SA are not really that different.

[Anonymous]

Something like 25 countries are "offering assistance" to Malaysia, with Malaysia's request and/or acceptance - they still have to take the lead. But that "assistance" varies enormously. Some, like India, have already said that they are scaling back.

[Anonymous]

Malaysia must be like crap, now the whole world is focused on us and we seem incompetent in the spotlight.

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Anonymous wrote:Malaysia must be like crap, now the whole world is focused on us and we seem incompetent in the spotlight.

I kind of feel bad for Malaysia. I think that they really are trying, but they're just very inexperienced/unequipped.

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Anonymous wrote:Malaysia must be like crap, now the whole world is focused on us and we seem incompetent in the spotlight.

I kind of feel bad for Malaysia. I think that they really are trying, but they're just very inexperienced/unequipped.

+1. It is a terrible thing to happen but especially to a country not equipped to handle something of this scale. This could be the reason this plane from this country was chosen, if indeed it is an act of terrorism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

NP here and you missed the point by a mile.

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If Pakistan did it, why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

NP here and you missed the point by a mile.

No, I get PP's point completely. They're saying that a plane could go undetected because BL was undetected. But they're kind of vastly different things. Smuggling a person into town and keeping them house-bound, paying off a few neighborhood people, id VASTLY different than landing a massive airliner that needs a vast runway, in a highly populated country. Someone would have seen something. You can smuggle a person through Pakistan's very rugged northern mountains, but not a massive airliner. And southern Pakistan is actually significantly more moderate (not to mention highly populated). Someone would have spilled something.

PP has just been watching too much TV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

Because they have lots of oil and money. So we are allies because the US is probably their biggest customer and they can use our military and world power and money to protect them if need be. But SA is also very conservative and disapproves of the Western lifestyle.

Every nation-state will sell out ethics and values for money. The US and SA are not really that different.

Yep. We seem to not mind that women are second class citizens over there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

NP here and you missed the point by a mile.

No, I get PP's point completely. They're saying that a plane could go undetected because BL was undetected. But they're kind of vastly different things. Smuggling a person into town and keeping them house-bound, paying off a few neighborhood people, id VASTLY different than landing a massive airliner that needs a vast runway, in a highly populated country. Someone would have seen something. You can smuggle a person through Pakistan's very rugged northern mountains, but not a massive airliner. And southern Pakistan is actually significantly more moderate (not to mention highly populated). Someone would have spilled something.

PP has just been watching too much TV.

Pakistan has major airports -- it's not like they'd have to land the plane on a highway and hope for the best. In terms of someone seeing something -- if something like this was planned (not saying it was) -- people in air traffic control, airport operations etc. were paid off and it was done at a time where the least number of people were around. And if a bystander who wasn't paid off just happened to see something -- well this isn't the U.S. where there are whistleblower protections. Places like that are a lot different -- people see atrocities and look the other way bc they know that reporting it put their own/their families lives in jeopardy. It's not like here where you could put out a public bulletin asking anyone who may have seen anything to call the FBI and receive thousands of calls -- people there aren't going to "make trouble."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

Because they have lots of oil and money. So we are allies because the US is probably their biggest customer and they can use our military and world power and money to protect them if need be. But SA is also very conservative and disapproves of the Western lifestyle.

Every nation-state will sell out ethics and values for money. The US and SA are not really that different.

Yep. We seem to not mind that women are second class citizens over there.

Forget about Saudi - we definitely have more than enough elected officials that support women being second class citizens here. Maybe not as extreme or to the same degree as SA, but there are plenty of people here who hold views about women in the same ideological vein of "less" and in need of their control, you know, for their own good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think people forget that if this was planned, there would be no fighter jets sent to guide the plane to a safe landing in where, Pakistan? I mean really, ...would there be fighter jets to guide it unplanned into Pakistan?

If it was planned, folks were paid to look the other way. People tend to not notice things when their pockets are going to be getting heavy from not noticing.

Why not just buy a plane? I am sure Pakistan can buy a plane on the open market. It would be a lot easier.

They want the passengers, not the plane.

pp, you know absolutely nothing about Pakistan.

and yes, I've been to Pakistan. Gasp!

Wasn't Bin Laden in Pakistan without mention for a number of years?

Bin Laden was more of a symbolic figurehead. It's good that we got him, but if you think he was that significant of a threat, then that's an extremely simplistic understanding. If you know anything about geopolitics, you know that Saudi Arabia is, was, and will continue to be the greatest threat. Saudi is the reason Pakistan has gotten more radicalized. But Saudi is also a close ally. Go figure?

NP here and you missed the point by a mile.

No, I get PP's point completely. They're saying that a plane could go undetected because BL was undetected. But they're kind of vastly different things. Smuggling a person into town and keeping them house-bound, paying off a few neighborhood people, id VASTLY different than landing a massive airliner that needs a vast runway, in a highly populated country. Someone would have seen something. You can smuggle a person through Pakistan's very rugged northern mountains, but not a massive airliner. And southern Pakistan is actually significantly more moderate (not to mention highly populated). Someone would have spilled something.

PP has just been watching too much TV.

Pakistan has major airports -- it's not like they'd have to land the plane on a highway and hope for the best. In terms of someone seeing something -- if something like this was planned (not saying it was) -- people in air traffic control, airport operations etc. were paid off and it was done at a time where the least number of people were around. And if a bystander who wasn't paid off just happened to see something -- well this isn't the U.S. where there are whistleblower protections. Places like that are a lot different -- people see atrocities and look the other way bc they know that reporting it put their own/their families lives in jeopardy. It's not like here where you could put out a public bulletin asking anyone who may have seen anything to call the FBI and receive thousands of calls -- people there aren't going to "make trouble."

Yes, Pakistan has major airports. I've been to a couple of them. I'd be pretty damn positive we (the US) has eyes on them, and there are a HELL of a lot of people working those airport, and in close proximity. What do you think - they land a plane at Karachi's main airport at night, and then wheel it down the roads in the middle of the night to a secret location? You really think it's possible to hide a 777 like that? Those airports have been operating around the clock, as they usually do. You think no one would have seen something odd, all this time? You're really wasting time on fictional movie plots, and not actual reality. Please stop it. You are either very, very dumb, or very ignorant, or a shit stirrer.