Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

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Anonymous wrote:It really could be aliens?

I'm pretty sure alien technology would be advanced enough to not have to do all that flying around to avoid our radar They'd just use a tractor beam, cloaking device, a transporter or something Gene hadn't thought of.

Maybe they did. Maybe the pilots struggled against the beam which accounts for the erratic flight path. The aliens could have shut off our transmitters.

The aliens closed the aircraft in the pod and hoisted it up. That's when contact was lost.

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Not a single known signal was made by the passengers.

This factor, if true, suggests they were killed as it would be difficult for even a large organized group of highjackers to collect all the communication devices before a message got off.

It also suggests they were all killed quickly- probably by depressurization of the cabin - which would cause unconsciousness within seconds and death within minutes.

You have to be near a cell tower to send or receive calls/messages, near is like 5-10 miles. 36,000 feet is about 6 miles, so you would all most have to fly over the tower and you would lose the signal quickly. So they did not kill everyone b/c of the cell phones, they did not work.

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This is like the opening to an action thriller. Hero is sitting down to breakfast having an ordinary morning with the family. In the background you hear the tv on with the news reporting a seemingly innocuous story about a plane disappearing. Then the phone rings....

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Sorry if that's perceived as "ugly," but it remains fact. If we're speculating based on things with no evidence that could be movie plots, then the field is completely wild open. Amelia Earhart could have hijacked it - it hasn't been dis-proven. Or aliens. No evidence to point against it, so why not?

In these kinds of events, speculation is to be expected, but you need some kind of realistic paradigm based on information at hand. I know the media likes to jump to wild conclusions, but it (and you) are not helping, with the wild, not-thought out hypotheses. There really is nothing to suggest that Pakistan has any connection, at all, in any way whatever except for some media fearmongering hype. Stop encouraging that.

Who are you to say? I never said Pakistan was involved. What makes you an expert? Anyone can fall back on "it has not been proved to my satisfaction" School yard bicker.

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/15/flight_370_disappearance_why_i_think_the_missing_airliner_could_be_in_central.html

thought this was well put together.
This whole thing is distressing and I wish I could stop thinking about the passengers and trying to imagine what they went through.

So many people are saying it's more logical that it's in the southern corridor, and we haven't found the plane because it's at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, but I agree with his analysis. I don't understand the logic of selecting a flight that was scheduled to fly North, in order to fly South. That is wasting time and fuel. If they were going South, why not pick a flight that was bound for Australia? Also, there is no indication that the plane crashed. The ping that he references would have been at 6:10 a.m. in Kazakhstan, which is before sunrise. It would not have had to fly over India, Pakistan, or Afghanistan. By all accounts, the -Stan countries are trying to rout out al-Queda, but they're small and not as sophisticated. Maybe it was another group, and maybe the plane wasn't going to be used again, but is a source of income. The parts are valuable. I just hope that we find out. And, soon.

+1 The fall out from this incident will come back eventually (not the debris -- at this point that would be less unsettling)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It really could be aliens?

I'm pretty sure alien technology would be advanced enough to not have to do all that flying around to avoid our radar They'd just use a tractor beam, cloaking device, a transporter or something Gene hadn't thought of.

Maybe they did. Maybe the pilots struggled against the beam which accounts for the erratic flight path. The aliens could have shut off our transmitters.

The aliens closed the aircraft in the pod and hoisted it up. That's when contact was lost.

I think I like the aliens people better than the "nothing has been proved except the airplane took off" group -- the Malaysians until yesterday.

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/15/flight_370_disappearance_why_i_think_the_missing_airliner_could_be_in_central.html

This article mentions that many countries are not as competent as you might think regarding monitoring their own airspace.

Given that, I don't understand why people are so convinced the plane is at the bottom of the ocean.

Clearly, bad guys took this plane and I'm sure they have a bad reason. The northern arc goes near enough to many countries with terrorist groups. Given terrorists' love for planes as weapons, it just seems painfully obvious to me that that is what we are looking at hear.

Just as the countries failed to detect the plane, I think that even a passenger jet can be hidden in a hangar or under camouflage.

I think the plane is out there, the passengers are imprisoned or mostly dead, except maybe the high value ones, and we will sadly see that plane again soon in a terror attack.

[Anonymous]

Another take-pilot protest?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/16/pilots-become-focus-malaysia-airlines-investigation/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/15/flight_370_disappearance_why_i_think_the_missing_airliner_could_be_in_central.html

This article mentions that many countries are not as competent as you might think regarding monitoring their own airspace.

Given that, I don't understand why people are so convinced the plane is at the bottom of the ocean.

Clearly, bad guys took this plane and I'm sure they have a bad reason. The northern arc goes near enough to many countries with terrorist groups. Given terrorists' love for planes as weapons, it just seems painfully obvious to me that that is what we are looking at hear.

Just as the countries failed to detect the plane, I think that even a passenger jet can be hidden in a hangar or under camouflage.

I think the plane is out there, the passengers are imprisoned or mostly dead, except maybe the high value ones, and we will sadly see that plane again soon in a terror attack.

+1. Clearly Malaysia didn't see its own plane come back into its airspace, so why not other countries? The Slate article says that India operates its military radar on an as-needed basis, "In order to be detected, apparently, whoever was flying MH370 would have to have called up the Indian armed forces first."

I think the passengers are dead via the high altitude scenario. Maybe not--maybe they killed all but the high-value hostages, but that is so complicated and so much can go wrong to keep everyone alive and then knock them off, one by one--they'd fight back. Maybe, maybe if there is a prison nearby, but then I still think they'd kill the low value passengers.

Anyways, if one accepts the assumption that not all countries' airspace is defended and supervised as well as American airspace, it opens up the possibility that there is was a pre-planned runway or highway out there ready to receive and hide the 777. And once you stop thinking about runways and think about roads, and cargo netting or a hanger or gutted building, it becomes more plausible.

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Anonymous wrote: Another take-pilot protest?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/16/pilots-become-focus-malaysia-airlines-investigation/

That article says several times that the data recorder was turned off. Is that something a pilot could do? How would we know the data recorder was turned off if no one can find the data recorder?

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Does anyone know if US air defenses are on higher alert because of this?

As incredibly unlikely as it seems that they could land it somewhere -- evidence points to the fact that they flew the plane very skillfully to avoid detection. And why would you do all that just to ditch in the ocean?!

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if US air defenses are on higher alert because of this?

As incredibly unlikely as it seems that they could land it somewhere -- evidence points to the fact that they flew the plane very skillfully to avoid detection. And why would you do all that just to ditch in the ocean?!

Wonder if we are going to hear about a military shoot down of a civilian aircraft that didn't respond quickly enough or maneuvered the plane in an unusual manner in the upcoming months.

[Anonymous]

Malaysia has a lot of terrorism I bet you it was hijacked probably by one of the pilots to fly to a terrorist country. The main pilot had a lot of flight simulators at home. Did they look to see if he was training to fly somewhere?

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Anonymous wrote:Malaysia has a lot of terrorism I bet you it was hijacked probably by one of the pilots to fly to a terrorist country. The main pilot had a lot of flight simulators at home. Did they look to see if he was training to fly somewhere?

My brother is a pilot, I'm quite confident he's not a terrorist. He has a number of flight simulators at home. He uses them to "explore" parts of the world where he never flies, or planes he's not certified on, because it's interesting to him, and to teach his friends the basics of flying (particularly female friends, who apparently find this "hot") and to fool around with his nephews. He's got a bunch because he buys new ones when they come out, and because he keeps easy ones for the kids, and ones that use different planes.

I don't think the flight simulators will mean much. He was obviously already experienced on the 777, and even if the plane did land somewhere, it clearly didn't land at some well known airport that would be featured in a simulator.

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There's an article on the CNN app that has a pilot explain why this still might not be a deliberate act - incapacitated pilots with autopilot turned off. He explained how the plane could stay in the air for hours with no pilot or autopilot. When the wings would hit a certain pitch, the plane would turn, and then stay straight until the next time the plane bobbled too much. He also pointed out that if this was the work of an experienced pilot, they would know how to keep the plane relatively stable and not wobble over 20,000 feet. I still vote for explosive decompression and a plane so smart it didn't know how to crash.

It still makes more sense than the Hollywood movie conspiracy plots that are being thrown around now.