US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

The Indian PP above should consider Mother Theresa who had done nothing for the poor in Calcutta. She collected the poor, the sick, and the dying. She was collecting approximately $300M per year in donations worldwide. Mother Theresa siphoned most of that money to the Vatican who in turn used the money to pay off the sexual molest settlements.

There's often an angle to people who claim they care for the poor and dispossessed. In reality, the Dems are using them to buy votes.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

Agreed

Hard to prove on dcum but I am a West African immigrant and yes! If I'm excluded it makes logical sense to me . This isn't the slam dunk you two weirdos think it is. People are like ne and you Asians have nothing to do with the US rising to be the nation it is today. That shouldn't be hard to comprehend, truly.

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Anonymous wrote:Great. If race is not being considered then the biggest losers in admissions will be URM and whites who are not academically equal or better than Asians. I am not bothered by their plight.

And if this is all smoke and mirrors and rich kids(legacy) will get in anyways and Asian Americans will continue to be penalized for academic excellence...well, then what's new? We are used to this shitshow. We are still finding ways to do well in this country. The more we are oppressed the more we use our brains and rise on the top.

The URMs are not our friends, but neither are the Whites. So there.

It is not as if Asians will stop studying and working hard because of what the supreme court of America says. we are well aware how these justices came to be selected. This was also not merit. we don't get easily fooled because we depend on our own abilities.
LOL.

My guess is this is person who is trying to stir up anti-Asian sentiment by posing as the most stereotypical version of Asian they can possibly imagine. I'm so sick of this on anonymous forums. I hope nobody falls for all this crap.

My guess is that I spoke the truth, and that bothers you the most.

No, posting untrue stereotypes about Asians bothers me the most.

These are my thoughts as an Indian American. This is not a true or untrue stereotype. But, I guess you are butt-hurt because what you really want to do is your version of mansplaining/whitesplaining/blacksplaining or whatever explaining you feel entitled to?

Go suck a duck!

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So if poverty can be used as a factor in admissions, who are the winners and losers?

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Anonymous wrote:So if poverty can be used as a factor in admissions, who are the winners and losers?

The poor kids who didn’t make the cut.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

However, the kid of a recent wealthy African immigrant might still be a victim of institutional racism, despite their upscale upbringing. Racists will only see race.

Of course...but is the kid of recent wealthy African immigrant more disadvantaged that the descendant of slaves? that's the point the system is being exploited.

also the court ruled against institutional racism.

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Anonymous wrote:So if poverty can be used as a factor in admissions, who are the winners and losers?

Those college applicants with the most need for an opportunity to rise above their current economic challenges.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

Agreed

Hard to prove on dcum but I am a West African immigrant and yes! If I'm excluded it makes logical sense to me . This isn't the slam dunk you two weirdos think it is. People are like ne and you Asians have nothing to do with the US rising to be the nation it is today. That shouldn't be hard to comprehend, truly.

Yes, if you choose to come here for whatever reason, you have little room to complain about being discriminated against. Why come here at all? Not to sound snarky but why do this? Why do we owe you anything more than your country of origin?

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

Agreed

Hard to prove on dcum but I am a West African immigrant and yes! If I'm excluded it makes logical sense to me . This isn't the slam dunk you two weirdos think it is. People are like ne and you Asians have nothing to do with the US rising to be the nation it is today. That shouldn't be hard to comprehend, truly.

Really? I didn’t know black people drove the tech industry or the Silicon Valley

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Anonymous wrote:Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote that the decision does not bar “universities from considering an applicant’s discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise.”

That's a truck sized loop hole that every elite college will drive through easily.

Every elite college will now have a "trauma porn" type essay and will give huge weight to the essay in their so called holistic process. And guess what, somehow magically, the essays from URM candidates who proudly display their "race" and trauma will get "outstanding" for their essay and will slide into the accept pile. Of course no white or Asian kids essay will get that score, no matter how much trauma porn they display

Then somebody will sue one of these colleges after a few years and we will get all the dirty tricks they use by replacing the personality ratings with and essay rating to socially engineer the class.

The more things change, the more they stay the same

Yes, and my high stats URM will be writing that essay.

Thanks Justice Roberts!

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

However, the kid of a recent wealthy African immigrant might still be a victim of institutional racism, despite their upscale upbringing. Racists will only see race.

1. immigrants choose to come here, descendants of slaves didn't have that choice. Any historical wrong immigrants faced before coming here is the responsibility of their home country, not the united states
2. do you really think the kid of a Nigerian surgeon or a Kenyan investment banker faces more challenges than the son of a white coal miner or Vietnamese waitress?

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

Agreed

Hard to prove on dcum but I am a West African immigrant and yes! If I'm excluded it makes logical sense to me . This isn't the slam dunk you two weirdos think it is. People are like ne and you Asians have nothing to do with the US rising to be the nation it is today. That shouldn't be hard to comprehend, truly.

Yes, if you choose to come here for whatever reason, you have little room to complain about being discriminated against. Why come here at all? Not to sound snarky but why do this? Why do we owe you anything more than your country of origin?

Is this the white liberal mindset?

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That's funny that you think that Asians are not going to be discriminated against now. Discrimination against minorities is legal again in 'merica.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

The Indian PP above should consider Mother Theresa who had done nothing for the poor in Calcutta. She collected the poor, the sick, and the dying. She was collecting approximately $300M per year in donations worldwide. Mother Theresa siphoned most of that money to the Vatican who in turn used the money to pay off the sexual molest settlements.

There's often an angle to people who claim they care for the poor and dispossessed. In reality, the Dems are using them to buy votes.

Oh, if you are correct then it proves my thinking that Christians and white people are nasty. GOP is the party of white uneducated people so it is particularly shady.

Don't get me wrong. Black people are freeloaders too. Now the gravy train has stopped or slowed down for them and they are protesting.

I will be looking out for myelf. Thank you very much!

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Actually, it's means that Asians can't complain now because discrimination is allowed under the law now. Get it?