US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Great. If race is not being considered then the biggest losers in admissions will be URM and whites who are not academically equal or better than Asians. I am not bothered by their plight.

And if this is all smoke and mirrors and rich kids(legacy) will get in anyways and Asian Americans will continue to be penalized for academic excellence...well, then what's new? We are used to this shitshow. We are still finding ways to do well in this country. The more we are oppressed the more we use our brains and rise on the top.

The URMs are not our friends, but neither are the Whites. So there.

It is not as if Asians will stop studying and working hard because of what the supreme court of America says. we are well aware how these justices came to be selected. This was also not merit. we don't get easily fooled because we depend on our own abilities.
LOL.

My guess is this is person who is trying to stir up anti-Asian sentiment by posing as the most stereotypical version of Asian they can possibly imagine. I'm so sick of this on anonymous forums. I hope nobody falls for all this crap.

My guess is that I spoke the truth, and that bothers you the most.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously why is everyone making this about asian kids? WTF?

The court case was brought by a racist organization but the person they used in The middle of the case was an Asian person.

Yep.

The "model minority" myth.

Asian Americans were merely used as pawns.

How condescending of you as to assume that the Asian Americans involved in the lawsuit weren’t smart enough or didn’t have enough agency of their own so they were made “pawns.” That’s a pretty racist trope as well.

So it's worse to point out that people are being used as pawns than it is to use people as pawns (which Blum and his racist cronies absolutely did). Noted.

Except that all you said was false. You're lying POS.

(OP here)

Please stop posting insults directed at other posters. All opinions all welcome, but personal attacks are not.

Where are you when they insulted Asians as bots and test takers?

Sorry, but i was working and have not read all posts in this thread--even though I started the thread.

As OP, I request that all posts be respectful toward other posters & readers. Please express opinions in a respectful manner.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope that Asian applicants understand that very little will change WRT Harvard: the chances of acceptance with “perfect scores” will be very low. And there will be white kids from West Virginia with lower scores who will get in. There will be black kids from the Bronx with lower scores who will get in. There will be Indian kids whose caste is “untouchable” with lower scores who will get in.

We'll how things evolve.
What we need to achieve is more clear rules, fairness, nd transparency, and no racial discrimination.

There was never racial discrimination no matter how many times you repeat it . If someone knocks on your door and insists that you give them a dollar , you'd call them an aggressor or better yet you'd call thenm entitled. Harvard is a private institution , you are owed nothing from them and this ruling won't suddenly increase your chances.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

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Anonymous wrote:Great. If race is not being considered then the biggest losers in admissions will be URM and whites who are not academically equal or better than Asians. I am not bothered by their plight.

And if this is all smoke and mirrors and rich kids(legacy) will get in anyways and Asian Americans will continue to be penalized for academic excellence...well, then what's new? We are used to this shitshow. We are still finding ways to do well in this country. The more we are oppressed the more we use our brains and rise on the top.

The URMs are not our friends, but neither are the Whites. So there.

It is not as if Asians will stop studying and working hard because of what the supreme court of America says. we are well aware how these justices came to be selected. This was also not merit. we don't get easily fooled because we depend on our own abilities.
LOL.

My guess is this is person who is trying to stir up anti-Asian sentiment by posing as the most stereotypical version of Asian they can possibly imagine. I'm so sick of this on anonymous forums. I hope nobody falls for all this crap.

My guess is that I spoke the truth, and that bothers you the most.

No, posting untrue stereotypes about Asians bothers me the most.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Tulane University diverse ?

The undergraduate student body at Tulane University is over 41% Jewish according to the Hillel Guide To Colleges.

What is the percentage of black students at Tulane ? Hispanic ?

Tulane reported being 72% white, 5% Asian, 5% black, and 8% hispanic. Not very diverse--especially considering the religious make-up.

For the same year: Northwestern University reported an undergraduate student body composed of: 41% white, 20% Asian, 6% black, 13% Hispanic, 6% multiracial, and 10% international.

Seems like Tulane University needs to do some serious work toward diversification.

For the same year, Harvard reported: 33% white, 23% Asian, 11% black, 12% Hispanic, 7% multiracial, and 11% international, yet Harvard got sued for discrimination when it should have received praise.

The defendants in the two affirmative action cases decided yesterday by the US Supreme Court were Harvard University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

For the same year, UNC-Chapel Hill reported: 57% white, 12% Asian, 8% black, 9% Hispanic, 55 multiracial, and 4% international.

Tulane University should be ashamed, not trumpeting diversity as it is among the least diverse elite schools in the country.

When was Tulane elite? Am I missing something. Tulane would have a hard time being selective if it diversified.

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Anonymous wrote:As the white parent of half Asian kids I can’t help but be relieved. The penalty against Asian kids as it currently stands is sickening. This gives me hope my kids at least won’t have a less fair admissions cycle than I did as a white kid.

Why exactly was there a penalty against Asian kids?

Because they were more successful than white kids and white parents didn’t want to do what it takes to do better than them.

This is nonsensical. How were Asian kids in particular harmed by AA?

Bc they needed higher test scores, GPA and higher “personality scores” to get in to the same school at the same time as a black or Hispanic candidate.

Asians know there is a different bar for them. My hat Asian kids were instructed not to ever complete the race box lest they be put in a racial grouping.

Racial groupings on their face are not equitable.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard systematically gave Asian students lower personal ratings scores in their admissions dockets. It is disgusting that Harvard therefore thinks all Asians have lower levels of character, integrity, personality, leadership than other races. Or another equally disgusting interpretation is that Harvard puts its thumb on the scale to admit fewer Asians.
This is why I can’t force myself to give another dollar to Harvard as an alum.
I hope we get to a content of character view of people going forward now, not just a race box.

Well, if Asians continue to be given lower personal rating scores it will be impossible to track. No more race or ethnicity identifiers!

Blum played you.

That’s not how “impossible to track” works.

-lawyer

That is exactly how it works.

-financial investigator

You can simply track it in discovery in the lawsuit later for policies that resulted in discrimination dumb dumb.

Instead of having a single dataset that can be queried for statistical anomalies you will have to gather up all applications, all notes taken, and compile. And the compilation would need to be done with both teams present.

Remember the phrase "hanging chad?"

The next decade is going to be an complete sh*t show.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope that Asian applicants understand that very little will change WRT Harvard: the chances of acceptance with “perfect scores” will be very low. And there will be white kids from West Virginia with lower scores who will get in. There will be black kids from the Bronx with lower scores who will get in. There will be Indian kids whose caste is “untouchable” with lower scores who will get in.

We'll how things evolve.
What we need to achieve is more clear rules, fairness, nd transparency, and no racial discrimination.

There was never racial discrimination no matter how many times you repeat it . If someone knocks on your door and insists that you give them a dollar , you'd call them an aggressor or better yet you'd call thenm entitled. Harvard is a private institution , you are owed nothing from them and this ruling won't suddenly increase your chances.

Well, the Supreme Court justices disagreed with you, so did majority of Americans (per WaPo's poll on this). You can keep your biased view to yourself then.

[Anonymous]

In line with this bad decision on affirmative action, in another decision (6-3), the Supreme Court is now attacking gay rights:

This current court’s make up is very interesting and scary quite frankly:

Here’s the news on the decision, regarding the legal decision protecting bigotry:
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/jun/30/us-supreme-court-ruling-lgbtq-rights-colorado

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Is this a joke? Affirmative action itself is a discrimination as the Supreme Court decided.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

Agreed

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.

Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!

And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.

That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants

Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?

Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.

Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.

Wow. What an ignorant, insular and close-minded point of view.

Do you realize there are groups of people all over the world who have been discriminated against and treated just as poorly as (or even worse) than the way black people have been treated in the US?

But we are talking about the US here. Blacks were brought here unwillingly and have been here since the inception. The US doesn’t owe every victim from every country a break. Why should we? The US has its fair share of issues, why do we feel the need to save everyone?

If that’s the bar, the you need to exclude recent black immigrants.

However, the kid of a recent wealthy African immigrant might still be a victim of institutional racism, despite their upscale upbringing. Racists will only see race.