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Anonymous wrote:If H wanted a family, why not embrace M's? Oh wait, she's on the outs (or paying them). How is this different?

As far as leaks, M was leaking so much she couldn't hold water. But no one else can leak? GMAF

These two deserve what they get.

Well it does seem he might be close to her mom?

Who walked out on Megan as a child and seemed to be absent from a big part of her life. Who also appears to be where Megan got the whole grifting lifestyle she embraces. Doria is being paid to be family at this point and if the money train stops, so will she.

Where are you getting your news, the daily fail. Meghan’s parents shared custody. Meghan lived with her mom over a garage during the week and with her father on the weekend. It’s out of Meghan and her mom’s own mouth as opposed to tabloid articles claiming she grew up in the ghettos of Compton.

Yes, she was on the set of Married...with Children, every day after school. Give me a break...

And this is....from her own mouth!!

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a23925/meghan-markle-interview/

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

At least he admits that Will came back and apologized. Siblings fight. So
What. The fact he is airing this simply for money is beyond the pale. Beyond.

Why would Will and Kate ever ever trust them again. Harry will just sell the stories again when he needs money or attention.

Where does he go from here? Nowhere. And good riddance.

Seems like the feeling is mutual. Harry doesn’t trust his brother. Nowhere to go? Are you serious. He didn’t have anything in the UK. Nobody had his back there that’s why he felt the need to leave.

He was protected his whole life in the UK. And now that he isn't....this is the result. The boy is a hot mess. We probably know a tiny fraction of the crummy stuff he did that his family kept out of the press for him.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.

What did Harry actually want of William? To change their birth order? In every aspect of life (like it or not), there is a hierarchy.

I think he wanted his family/the institution to protect him in the same way William was protected. It's an understandable desire, if not realistic.

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He literally says in the 60 minutes clip “I want a family, not an institution.”

What do people not get about this?? Makes perfect sense. It’s never a good idea to so clearly treat one sibling better than the other. And don’t give me any Bs about this being the royal family. It doesn’t matter, they don’t “have” to do things that way.

Only one person can inherit. That's a fact of life. Life that has dealt Harry rather a good hand. Older brother is being raised to lead, younger to support him.

He could have had his family if he played by the rules.

This book virtually guarantees he'd never be welcome back.

Harry didn’t want to inherit. He just didn’t want the family to leak negative stories about his wife to the press in order to shield themselves from other stories (like keeping Andrew around). William clearly did this through Jason Knauf. Knauf admitted it in a deposition.

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I don’t get why so many people on here ignore Harry’s basic complaint about this. Or the fact that it was his own father and brother doing this to him. What a betrayal. How would you feel if your brother trashed your new wife to the entire world?!

On more everyday level, how would you feel if your sibling spread a negative rumor about your spouse around to your extended social circle? You would say, “oh that’s fine, she’s two years older than me so whatever she wants” ??

My problem is I don’t believe Harry or Meghan because they lie. Her lies were substantiated in court. You’re misrepresenting Knauf’s deposition as well.

DP. You are the liar. H&M one their case.

DP. You need to look up your facts., They were called out by the judge for lying about collaborating with the author of Finding Freedom, at which point they pulled the "whoopsie, slipped my mind" card, despite providing 8 pages of notes to the book authors.

They are incorrigible, pathological liars. They lie nonstop.

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Anonymous wrote:What's sad is that with all this nonsense talk about independent life, it surely must burn H&M that their connection to the BRF is STILL the most interesting thing about them.

Netflix doc about their dramas? Sells like hotcakes.

Leadership something doc they "produced"? Didn't even register.

That tells you what people want from H&M. Not their ideas!

It's only the most interesting thing to people on here discussing it, and who know little else about them. Lots of people love them for lots of reasons, including their philanthropic work. Meghan def has a very close cadre of friends who are very protective of her and love her very much.

What else is there to know? Remove their connection to the BRF and do you think they would stand out in the sea of philanthropy?

Well Meghan was philanthropic prior to knowing and dating Harry. Actually received recognition from the UN on her charity work. Just because she was unknown to you does not mean she was unknown to others.

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Anonymous wrote:What's sad is that with all this nonsense talk about independent life, it surely must burn H&M that their connection to the BRF is STILL the most interesting thing about them.

Netflix doc about their dramas? Sells like hotcakes.

Leadership something doc they "produced"? Didn't even register.

That tells you what people want from H&M. Not their ideas!

It's only the most interesting thing to people on here discussing it, and who know little else about them. Lots of people love them for lots of reasons, including their philanthropic work. Meghan def has a very close cadre of friends who are very protective of her and love her very much.

What else is there to know? Remove their connection to the BRF and do you think they would stand out in the sea of philanthropy?

Well Meghan was philanthropic prior to knowing and dating Harry. Actually received recognition from the UN on her charity work. Just because she was unknown to you does not mean she was unknown to others.

She wasn't a standout. No one knew her. I've probably spoken at more UN events than she had at that point, I just don't go about trying to curate a brand around it. You need money and/or status to be a standout philanthropist and she had neither.

She is relevant now entirely because of the racist, imperialist institution she is hellbent on destroying.

Even after having the post-royal family platform, their "Live to Lead" doc on Netflix tanked. Nobody cares about them apart from royal family drama and gossip.

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Anonymous wrote:Will’s kids go to school and safely navigate in public in the UK. It’s not the same dangerous media circus that killed Diana. Harry’s kids could have done the same. He certainly didn’t need Tyler Perry’s security lol.

Obviously he did. The vultures showed up at their hide-away house in Canada. They breached the perimeters. Will’s kids have 24-hour security. I guess you’re right that Harry could have stayed at Frogmore until the day he died, bowing, cowing and begging his father, brother and later uncle for crumbs from their table. Spineless people would find that acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the Netflix documentary. I have also helped people leave abusive husbands and families. Tyler Perry nailed it. They were in a dysfunctional, abusive family situation. Basically the BRF uses the lower ranked royals as tabloid fodder to keep unpleasant truths and rumors from being printed about the upper royals. It is a f***ed up hierarchy. It is absolutely gross. H&M were popular in the Commonwealth. The higher ups egos couldn’t handle it. Remember when JFK went to Paris? He basically said I’m the man who accompanied Jackie Kennedy to Paris. That was smart. The BRF was stupid as was their press offices. When someone breaks free of a dysfunctional and abusive situation and get to an area where the air is free and not controlled, they start realizing just how messed up and dysfunctional their prior living situation was. They start to talk about it. All of this was predictable.

It’s like Harry came from a family where the Dad drank, screamed and yelled at mom and the kids, maybe hit some of them and they all enabled it by dressing up, making excuses, and making sure no one really knew the truth. Harry’s the kid who noticed this wasn’t happening at his friends house and decided to stop enabling the dysfunction and stop taking the abuse.

This assumes that the royal family controls the press. It does not. Harry and Megan have admitted leaking things to the media. Also note that that royal rota strongly denies claims that royal palace leaked bad press on Megan. In fact Emily Andrew’s just tweeted that the RF bent over backwards trying to protect Megan from claims of her bullying her staff, whining about having to wear a different tiara, etc.

You mean the same royal press who just two weeks ago stated that Meghan should be stripped and walked through the streets naked. The same press who said Meghan should be attacked. Yeah right, sure they did. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Will’s kids go to school and safely navigate in public in the UK. It’s not the same dangerous media circus that killed Diana. Harry’s kids could have done the same. He certainly didn’t need Tyler Perry’s security lol.

Obviously he did. The vultures showed up at their hide-away house in Canada. They breached the perimeters. Will’s kids have 24-hour security. I guess you’re right that Harry could have stayed at Frogmore until the day he died, bowing, cowing and begging his father, brother and later uncle for crumbs from their table. Spineless people would find that acceptable.

Source?

Are you talking about that pap shot Meghan set up herself when she was maniacally smiling while walking the dog?

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Anonymous wrote:Will’s kids go to school and safely navigate in public in the UK. It’s not the same dangerous media circus that killed Diana. Harry’s kids could have done the same. He certainly didn’t need Tyler Perry’s security lol.

The tabloids would have kept on hounding his kids, same as they are his wife. Same as they did his mom and look how that ended.
I didnt notice the BRF intervening.

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You think the tabloids would hound Harry’s wife and kids more than Will’s?

Um, no.

That’s the point: Will’s family can go to school, local stores, etc. Yet Harry was convinced his kids couldn’t. He’s not rational. He’s delusional.

DP. I don’t know, but what I do know is that Will’s kids have never been compared to a chimpanzee by anyone. So there’s that.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the Netflix documentary. I have also helped people leave abusive husbands and families. Tyler Perry nailed it. They were in a dysfunctional, abusive family situation. Basically the BRF uses the lower ranked royals as tabloid fodder to keep unpleasant truths and rumors from being printed about the upper royals. It is a f***ed up hierarchy. It is absolutely gross. H&M were popular in the Commonwealth. The higher ups egos couldn’t handle it. Remember when JFK went to Paris? He basically said I’m the man who accompanied Jackie Kennedy to Paris. That was smart. The BRF was stupid as was their press offices. When someone breaks free of a dysfunctional and abusive situation and get to an area where the air is free and not controlled, they start realizing just how messed up and dysfunctional their prior living situation was. They start to talk about it. All of this was predictable.

It’s like Harry came from a family where the Dad drank, screamed and yelled at mom and the kids, maybe hit some of them and they all enabled it by dressing up, making excuses, and making sure no one really knew the truth. Harry’s the kid who noticed this wasn’t happening at his friends house and decided to stop enabling the dysfunction and stop taking the abuse.

This assumes that the royal family controls the press. It does not. Harry and Megan have admitted leaking things to the media. Also note that that royal rota strongly denies claims that royal palace leaked bad press on Megan. In fact Emily Andrew’s just tweeted that the RF bent over backwards trying to protect Megan from claims of her bullying her staff, whining about having to wear a different tiara, etc.

You mean the same royal press who just two weeks ago stated that Meghan should be stripped and walked through the streets naked. The same press who said Meghan should be attacked. Yeah right, sure they did. LOL.

Do you even know what the royal rota is? You seem rather ignorant on this matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Will’s kids go to school and safely navigate in public in the UK. It’s not the same dangerous media circus that killed Diana. Harry’s kids could have done the same. He certainly didn’t need Tyler Perry’s security lol.

The tabloids would have kept on hounding his kids, same as they are his wife. Same as they did his mom and look how that ended.
I didnt notice the BRF intervening.

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You think the tabloids would hound Harry’s wife and kids more than Will’s?

Um, no.

That’s the point: Will’s family can go to school, local stores, etc. Yet Harry was convinced his kids couldn’t. He’s not rational. He’s delusional.

DP. I don’t know, but what I do know is that Will’s kids have never been compared to a chimpanzee by anyone. So there’s that.

No, just 3-year-old Charlotte being fat shamed directly by Meghan and her friend Jessica before the wedding. With family like that...

That BBC clown was fired immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m suspicious of anything that comes out of Harry’s mouth now. Of particular concern is his assertion that he killed 25 Afghans. I am from a military family (spouse, brother in law, father, grandfather). All have been on combat operations, as have their comrades and therefore people who I have mixed with all my life. Not once has any of them even hinted at their “scorecard”. It is not something that is ever ever mentioned in the military community.

Chris Kyle had over 150 kills, wrote a book and they made a movie about it. Black Hawk Down was based on the book of a former Marine. Others have written about their war time actions, most have not. It is not a rule that it cannot be spoken about.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m suspicious of anything that comes out of Harry’s mouth now. Of particular concern is his assertion that he killed 25 Afghans. I am from a military family (spouse, brother in law, father, grandfather). All have been on combat operations, as have their comrades and therefore people who I have mixed with all my life. Not once has any of them even hinted at their “scorecard”. It is not something that is ever ever mentioned in the military community.

Chris Kyle had over 150 kills, wrote a book and they made a movie about it. Black Hawk Down was based on the book of a former Marine. Others have written about their war time actions, most have not. It is not a rule that it cannot be spoken about.

This Chris Kyle?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/08/navy-lowers-medal-count-seal-chris-kyle/86468402/

You're proving PP's point.

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America makes a lot of mistakes but nixing the royals was something we got right.