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Anonymous wrote:Why did Meghan marry Harry, it seems like he had a lot of issues going on and she was doing pretty well for herself, with her modest acting career and blog etc? Is there a piece of the puzzle missing here?

Why did any of us marry the people we married?

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Anonymous wrote:Re: all the people who bring up the negative stories about Camilla, Kate, etc.

The stories about Meghan had an overtly racist component to them. Straight outta Compton? Baby Archie portrayed as a monkey?! Gross.

Racism is way worse than calling someone Waity (which she in fact was!)

The same two stories recycled over 5 effing years. Find a new tune. Or find additional examples BESIDES Straight Outta Compton and the fired BBC loser who posted the monkey pic. Go on now.

Very dismissive of you. Would I be correct that you are white and have your privilege intact.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Meghan marry Harry, it seems like he had a lot of issues going on and she was doing pretty well for herself, with her modest acting career and blog etc? Is there a piece of the puzzle missing here?

Why did any of us marry the people we married?

It's not that hard to figure out. She wanted more. Fame. Status. Money.

Apparently she wanted it A LOT, because her man child husband is a walking red flag.

She had to scrape and hustle for a decade to get that side role on Suits and was already being written out. Harry was her ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, he had his therapist on speed dial but they claim no one could help
Meg when she was allegedly ready to kill herself? I find that very hard to believe.

There is something very precious about a grown man decked by his brother who reaches out for his therapist first. I mean what does he tell him/her? Waah Willy is meean can we have an emergency sesh?

He probably called his therapist to calm his arse down. I bet Harry wanted to kill or do serious damage to Will’s face and needed his therapist to calm him down and out of it. Sense I’ve not read the book yet, I do not know the rest of the story and am purely speculating. Just like all of you.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: all the people who bring up the negative stories about Camilla, Kate, etc.

The stories about Meghan had an overtly racist component to them. Straight outta Compton? Baby Archie portrayed as a monkey?! Gross.

Racism is way worse than calling someone Waity (which she in fact was!)

The same two stories recycled over 5 effing years. Find a new tune. Or find additional examples BESIDES Straight Outta Compton and the fired BBC loser who posted the monkey pic. Go on now.

Very dismissive of you. Would I be correct that you are white and have your privilege intact.

DP. Sorry you can't pull this card and also defend Harry, whose picture is in the dictionary next to white privilege.

His wife also seems more than fine with the accoutrements of said privilege. Even clinging to them, I dare say.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Meghan marry Harry, it seems like he had a lot of issues going on and she was doing pretty well for herself, with her modest acting career and blog etc? Is there a piece of the puzzle missing here?

Why did any of us marry the people we married?

It's not that hard to figure out. She wanted more. Fame. Status. Money.

Apparently she wanted it A LOT, because her man child husband is a walking red flag.

She had to scrape and hustle for a decade to get that side role on Suits and was already being written out. Harry was her ticket.

. So you married for money and status. That’s what you’re saying. And so because that’s why you married you think that’s why she married her husband. Very shallow of you don’t you think.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, he had his therapist on speed dial but they claim no one could help
Meg when she was allegedly ready to kill herself? I find that very hard to believe.

There is something very precious about a grown man decked by his brother who reaches out for his therapist first. I mean what does he tell him/her? Waah Willy is meean can we have an emergency sesh?

He probably called his therapist to calm his arse down. I bet Harry wanted to kill or do serious damage to Will’s face and needed his therapist to calm him down and out of it. Sense I’ve not read the book yet, I do not know the rest of the story and am purely speculating. Just like all of you.

Yes, I'm sure this was his exact thought process in the heat of the moment of a skirmish.

Hothead Harry seems so thoughtful, careful and deliberate. A picture of calm, measured foresight.

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Anonymous wrote:It's almost like Harry wants to burnish his credentials as a bona fide idiot. Only that can explain the story of his first sexual encounter, and a helpful explanation of penile frostbite at William's wedding. Like, WHYYYY? The Queen would be mortified at that. Actually all of us are mortified to read this..

It”s his way of tarnishing the Monarchy, bringing it to the gutter level. If he can’t have it he will burn it down, and burn himself too in the process. He is consumed by envy.

Good. Burn it all down. It should have been gone a century ago, if not earlier.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Meghan marry Harry, it seems like he had a lot of issues going on and she was doing pretty well for herself, with her modest acting career and blog etc? Is there a piece of the puzzle missing here?

Why did any of us marry the people we married?

It's not that hard to figure out. She wanted more. Fame. Status. Money.

Apparently she wanted it A LOT, because her man child husband is a walking red flag.

She had to scrape and hustle for a decade to get that side role on Suits and was already being written out. Harry was her ticket.

. So you married for money and status. That’s what you’re saying. And so because that’s why you married you think that’s why she married her husband. Very shallow of you don’t you think.

Yawn, do better. She was a known clout chaser. Tried to get with any rich British man she could and landed the biggest, most gullible doofus.

Hope she's enjoying it!

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Anonymous wrote:“Willy”;expected Meghan to curtsy to him the first time they met! His brother’s serious girlfriend in a casual, private venue (Harry’s kitchen).

How can you people defend him? He’s so gross.

She wanted to be a princess. That means that lots of people bow to her. And she curtseys to a few people.

True. If you accept the system (which I think needs to be abolished), you accept the system. That said, William sounds quite rigid.

FIGHT OVER WEDDING VENUES

Harry claims the royal household dragged its feet over the date and venue for his wedding with Meghan. He says that when he consulted his brother about the possibility of marrying in Westminster Abbey or St. Paul's Cathedral, William said he could not marry there because they had been venues for the weddings of Charles and Diana and of William and Kate respectively. Instead, William suggested a village chapel near Charles' home at Highgrove House in southwest England. Harry and Meghan finally got married at St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, in May 2018.

He is not rigid, he was right. It would have been out of place to have Harry’s wedding at Westminster Abbey, too grand. Even the one he got at Windsor was too grand and expensive given what UK has been going through. Plus, are you telling me that the couple who said they did not want a big wedding and it was all a spectacle forced on them by the RF actually wanted a king sized wedding at Westminster Abbey?

Plausible. The UK made a lot more money on television rights, paraphernalia, and tourism than what was spent on the wedding. It was a national event.

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Anonymous wrote:“Willy”;expected Meghan to curtsy to him the first time they met! His brother’s serious girlfriend in a casual, private venue (Harry’s kitchen).

How can you people defend him? He’s so gross.

She wanted to be a princess. That means that lots of people bow to her. And she curtseys to a few people.

True. If you accept the system (which I think needs to be abolished), you accept the system. That said, William sounds quite rigid.

FIGHT OVER WEDDING VENUES

Harry claims the royal household dragged its feet over the date and venue for his wedding with Meghan. He says that when he consulted his brother about the possibility of marrying in Westminster Abbey or St. Paul's Cathedral, William said he could not marry there because they had been venues for the weddings of Charles and Diana and of William and Kate respectively. Instead, William suggested a village chapel near Charles' home at Highgrove House in southwest England. Harry and Meghan finally got married at St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, in May 2018.

He is not rigid, he was right. It would have been out of place to have Harry’s wedding at Westminster Abbey, too grand. Even the one he got at Windsor was too grand and expensive given what UK has been going through. Plus, are you telling me that the couple who said they did not want a big wedding and it was all a spectacle forced on them by the RF actually wanted a king sized wedding at Westminster Abbey?

Plausible. The UK made a lot more money on television rights, paraphernalia, and tourism than what was spent on the wedding. It was a national event.

The royals don't view everything in strictly commercial terms.

That's more of a line some royalists use to defend sustenance of the institution.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.

What did Harry actually want of William? To change their birth order? In every aspect of life (like it or not), there is a hierarchy.

I think he wanted his family/the institution to protect him in the same way William was protected. It's an understandable desire, if not realistic.

Of course he didn't want to "change the birth order." God, I don't think he envies William in any way and barely tolerated his royal duties, given what happened to his mother. And after finding other things that gave him more happiness: his military service, his philanthropies, and now his wife/kids. He absolutely expected his brother and father to protect his family and they didn't, going as far to remove their security detail once they decided to step away. Were they entitled to pull it back? Sure. But it makes them look petty and vindictive, and left them open to security breaches. Jesus, Tyler Perry had to step in to help them when their own family couldn't be magnanimous enough to keep them safe. It's absolutely grotesque.

While there are not doubt different recollections on the two sides re: some of the details, I 100000% believe Harry and Meghan. There are plenty of examples of hideous behavior by the Royal family to know what they are saying is true. Good for them for stepping away. Protecting their family. And of not longer sitting back and being the punching bags and telling their side.

H&M could have stayed in England (even as non-working Royals) and lived at Frogmore House and had security. They chose to move to the US, out of the jurisdiction of the British government. If they didn’t think through the consequences of that, that’s on them. They said they wanted to be independent and make their own way (except for the titles, and the police protection, and the Royal family sticking up for them in the press…). Choices have consequences.

Well, they're making more money now than in Britain. So, yeah! You're right, choices have consequences .

Security alone was worth more than they have made by cashing in all their cards.

Yet at some point, had they stayed, their financial well-being, possibly where they lived, and legal custody of their children would have been in William’s hands. That’s reason enough for leaving while they still had multiple options for making money — and possibly better options for the well-being of their kids.

This nonsense was floated as a justification for Meghan to take Archie and run. It was nonsense then and it's nonsense now.

Also, Beatrice and Eugenie may not have everything they desire but they are doing just fine. "Better option for the well-being of their kids"? Being raised as the idle rich in California is healthier for them than being raised in England among family? I suppose anything is possible.

Blood does not make one family. Blood relatives can be toxic. Sometimes it’s best to disconnect and make your own family. Isn’t that’s what is touted in the relationship section of DCUM and self-help forums.

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Anonymous wrote:For those who are appalled at how Harry is airing his “family’s” dirty laundry, this isn’t a family. At best this is a dysfunctional business that is desperate to hang into its position. While many of us would operate under different norms when it comes to our own families, those norms have never applied to the BRF.

We all know it’s ugly and unfair. But apparently no one wants to see it in print or hear it said out loud.

See, that's part of the charm of the royal family. It is a family, including family squabbles and family laundry. But still, family laundry doesn't need to be public.

Yes it does. The dysfunctional royal institution survives off the tit of the taxpayers. Make it transparent

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Anonymous wrote:For those who are appalled at how Harry is airing his “family’s” dirty laundry, this isn’t a family. At best this is a dysfunctional business that is desperate to hang into its position. While many of us would operate under different norms when it comes to our own families, those norms have never applied to the BRF.

We all know it’s ugly and unfair. But apparently no one wants to see it in print or hear it said out loud.

See, that's part of the charm of the royal family. It is a family, including family squabbles and family laundry. But still, family laundry doesn't need to be public.

Yes it does. The dysfunctional royal institution survives off the tit of the taxpayers. Make it transparent

Are you saying that while Trump was in office, we should have heard more about his little orange twig?

I'll have a little less transparency, thanks lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Meghan marry Harry, it seems like he had a lot of issues going on and she was doing pretty well for herself, with her modest acting career and blog etc? Is there a piece of the puzzle missing here?

Why did any of us marry the people we married?

It's not that hard to figure out. She wanted more. Fame. Status. Money.

Apparently she wanted it A LOT, because her man child husband is a walking red flag.

She had to scrape and hustle for a decade to get that side role on Suits and was already being written out. Harry was her ticket.

Growing up over a garage explains a lot.