Game of Thrones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few lingering comments/questions:



- do we really know that Jon is rheagar's son? I've been following the theory, but the finale only tells us layanna's baby is Jon. We know there were rumors that rheagar raped her, fan theories they actually had consensual relationship, possibly even married, but we still don't know he's the father, or do we?

We know she thinks Robert will kill him, and as Rhaegar's son, he's the biggest threat. She's also brought there by Rhaegar and guarded by three Kingsguard while there is a war going on. No other reason for the Kingsguard to be there unless they are protecting royalty.

[Anonymous]

MY prophesy is that Cersei will kill one of her little brothers, thinking he is going to betray her and kill her as per the prophesy . . . and then the other remaining little brother is going to kill her. Which would be more tragic -- for her to kill Jamie and get killed by Tyrion, or for her to kill Tyrion and get killed by Jamie?

[Anonymous]

My lingering questions:

Why was it so important to lure Maester Pycel into the crypt and kill him separately away from the other people?

Ditto Lancel Lannister -- and why was Lancel distracted from rounding up Cersei by seeing a little kid wander into the crypt? It didn't really make sense to me. Oh, I've been ordered to round up Cersei for her trial, but there's a little kid wandering into the crypt, so I think I'll go investigate.

Why put Lancel in the crypt with the wildfire? Just to psychologically torture him?

Who were the kids? Street kids? Little birds?

[Anonymous]

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Why is Cersei on the Iron Throne instead of Jaime? As the male Lannister heir, wouldn't he have a stronger claim to the throne than Cersei?

Cersei was named Queen Regent for her son, until his majority. She previously ruled the country. Jaime gave up the right to hold any kind of lordship when he became a King's Guard.

Legalities doesn't matter than much in Westeros, anyway. What matters most is if you can take it and if you can hold it.

The Lannisters aren't officially the ruling house though, right? Wasn't Tommen officially a Baratheon? Jaime would have no claim. Unless I missed something...

Cersai's ascension might be legit:
http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#S7jJ8VQwQuq9

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My lingering questions:

Why was it so important to lure Maester Pycel into the crypt and kill him separately away from the other people?

Ditto Lancel Lannister -- and why was Lancel distracted from rounding up Cersei by seeing a little kid wander into the crypt? It didn't really make sense to me. Oh, I've been ordered to round up Cersei for her trial, but there's a little kid wandering into the crypt, so I think I'll go investigate.

Why put Lancel in the crypt with the wildfire? Just to psychologically torture him?

Who were the kids? Street kids? Little birds?

I was wondering the same. Lancelot may have been just obeying orders to kill anyone that followed them. The maesters was very deliberate and cruel and may have been Qyburn's request.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why is Cersei on the Iron Throne instead of Jaime? As the male Lannister heir, wouldn't he have a stronger claim to the throne than Cersei?

Cersei was named Queen Regent for her son, until his majority. She previously ruled the country. Jaime gave up the right to hold any kind of lordship when he became a King's Guard.

Legalities doesn't matter than much in Westeros, anyway. What matters most is if you can take it and if you can hold it.

The Lannisters aren't officially the ruling house though, right? Wasn't Tommen officially a Baratheon? Jaime would have no claim. Unless I missed something...

Cersai's ascension might be legit:
http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#S7jJ8VQwQuq9

thanks! Very interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My lingering questions:

Why was it so important to lure Maester Pycel into the crypt and kill him separately away from the other people?

Ditto Lancel Lannister -- and why was Lancel distracted from rounding up Cersei by seeing a little kid wander into the crypt? It didn't really make sense to me. Oh, I've been ordered to round up Cersei for her trial, but there's a little kid wandering into the crypt, so I think I'll go investigate.

Why put Lancel in the crypt with the wildfire? Just to psychologically torture him?

Who were the kids? Street kids? Little birds?

1) My theory is that Cersei (with the help of Qyburn) had the "little birds" (street kids) deliberately lure Pycelle and Lancel so that they would be killed in a particularly excruciating way -- she wants them to suffer more. Pycelle turned against her this past season when he was on the Small Council, and Lancel (who used to be her lover way back in Season 1) also turned against her when he joined the High Sparrow's army. Pycelle was lured by the little girl who told him (apparently) that King Tommen wanted to meet with him. Lancel was lured because he followed a little boy he saw acting suspiciously just outside the Sept - as the head of the Sparrow's goons, Cersei knew Lancel would follow the suspicious-acting kid.

2) Yes, I think it was to psychologically torture Lancel - so he would see exactly was coming.

3) They were originally Varys' "little birds" - street kids he'd trained to spy for him. After Varys left, Qyburn took over the little birds.

[Anonymous]

What was up with Sansa and Little Finger giving each other the eye when all the men were declaring Jon Snow King of the North? What were they acknowledging? And where is the red priestess going?

Is Bran going to show up to Winterfell and tell everyone Jon is royal or is he stuck in that tree now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What was up with Sansa and Little Finger giving each other the eye when all the men were declaring Jon Snow King of the North? What were they acknowledging? And where is the red priestess going?

Is Bran going to show up to Winterfell and tell everyone Jon is royal or is he stuck in that tree now?

There is a lot of disagreement about what that exchange of glances meant. Some think Sansa is worried about LS's scheming. Others think she's not completely reconciled to her illegitimate brother being above her in rank now, especially since it is only because of her gender, and might be tempted by LR's desire to make them the ultimate power couple. I lean toward the former, but am not completely sure.

[Anonymous]

Some interesting (and amusing) theories and speculation about next season in this link:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/27/game-of-thrones-what-to-expect-in-season-7-from-cersei-s-death-to-arya-s-revenge.html?via=newsletter&source=DDAfternoon

And for those of us who never read the books and can hardly remember all the details of each season, there's a good bit of filler and backstory there explaining all the machinations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What was up with Sansa and Little Finger giving each other the eye when all the men were declaring Jon Snow King of the North? What were they acknowledging? And where is the red priestess going?

Is Bran going to show up to Winterfell and tell everyone Jon is royal or is he stuck in that tree now?

There is a lot of disagreement about what that exchange of glances meant. Some think Sansa is worried about LS's scheming. Others think she's not completely reconciled to her illegitimate brother being above her in rank now, especially since it is only because of her gender, and might be tempted by LR's desire to make them the ultimate power couple. I lean toward the former, but am not completely sure.

I think it is deliberately ambiguous with respect to Sansa, because she is deeply ambivalent. Sansa doesn't trust anyone and believes no one can protect her. She has been looking for a way to protect herself, and Littlefinger has been a powerful ally whose schemes are cleverer than Jon's. To say the least. And Jon, her beloved brother, just inadvertently elevated himself above her and put himself in Littlefinger's crosshairs. Because, realistically, Jon now stands between Littlefinger and the Iron Throne. Jon has been a dummard but he is loyal, whereas Littlefinger is not, and they are set to be in open conflict. Moreover, Littlefinger has been honest with Sansa about his ambitions. Jon offered her the Lord's chambers but then did not renounce the title when it was offered.

Littlefinger's glance, however, was not I think ambiguous. That was a warning; he's coming for Jon.

[Anonymous]

PP here, yes I agree Sansa is ambivalent and why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few lingering comments/questions:

- Sansa is sitting under a weirwood tree when LF proposes to her. Might that be the tree bran decides to plant himself in? If he does, and the Knight's King touches him in his dream state, that could be the way the white walkers cross into the North without bringing the wall down.

- who blew the horn Samwell and the others with him saw the white walkers in season 1(?)? He makes some comment that it would be blown 3x in such a case. I thought it was the watch, but it seems now that no one there really knew what white walkers were except from ancient stories.

- do we really know that Jon is rheagar's son? I've been following the theory, but the finale only tells us layanna's baby is Jon. We know there were rumors that rheagar raped her, fan theories they actually had consensual relationship, possibly even married, but we still don't know he's the father, or do we?

We will now for sure when Jon walks through fire

[Anonymous]

I don't really think she's ambivalent. She is loyal and wants her family to be triumphant. She told Jon to take the big bedroom that belonged to her parents. She seemed to be happy when people were coming forward to support Jon as king. I think she supports him but is ready to step in when he isn't smart enough or doesn't anticipate the lengths some people (like Littlefinger) will go to for power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was up with Sansa and Little Finger giving each other the eye when all the men were declaring Jon Snow King of the North? What were they acknowledging? And where is the red priestess going?

Is Bran going to show up to Winterfell and tell everyone Jon is royal or is he stuck in that tree now?

There is a lot of disagreement about what that exchange of glances meant. Some think Sansa is worried about LS's scheming. Others think she's not completely reconciled to her illegitimate brother being above her in rank now, especially since it is only because of her gender, and might be tempted by LR's desire to make them the ultimate power couple. I lean toward the former, but am not completely sure.

After what she has endured, I don't see Sansa wanting to go back to KL to sit on an iron throne.