REV Soccer Only CHAT, No drama please

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VRSC does not have a known brand. Second year in GA. Pretty sure every college coach says "Virginia Who?" when getting emails or scouting games. During the the FCV blowup, I can 100% tell you at least two of three VRSC players were offered roster spots on VDA. The other one from FCV does not play for VRSC.

Hindsight 20/20. You can't tell me those players would not be committed if they chose to play for VDA.

VDA has nothing to do with it. They would have gone to McLean or some other team and been equally successful and committed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is only one person responsible for the “fcv” blowup.

StJ was responsible for the blow up by treating BP/CC horribly. If they were happy with the organization, neither would have left perhaps. BP was actually Captain GA before leaving for VDA. Fully decked out in GA gear at airports. CC on the other hand saw the writing on the wall but bit off much more than he could chew. Don't take a job (managing) if it is not something you want to do.

BP had nothing to do with it. FCV’s demise began the day it was acquired by a mile-high pile of debt and continued through a series of terrible hires, notably AB. The STJ flogged the FCV brand until it was unrecognizable then a brilliant marketing team thought rebranding it would deliver some magical resuscitation to a cold corpse. It did not.

The only way FCV could have died a slower death is if TSJ had tried to kill it intentionally, only because TSJ fails miserably at everything it sets out to do. But death by a thousand cuts helped the patient bleed out in the privacy of its own little leveraged LLC.

Not BP’s fault, and it won’t be JO’s either.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]VRSC does not have a known brand. Second year in GA. Pretty sure every college coach says "Virginia Who?" when getting emails or scouting games. During the the FCV blowup, I can 100% tell you at least two of three VRSC players were offered roster spots on VDA. The other one from FCV does not play for VRSC.

Hindsight 20/20. You can't tell me those players would not be committed if they chose to play for VDA. [/quote]

Actually, that’s not accurate. If you have real insight, you’d know that a handful of the 2009s already have college coaches interested. Some of these girls are choosing academics and may not pursue college soccer. Last year, the first GA team at Rev had four D1 commits, so exposure is clearly not the issue. The difference on the older teams isn’t exposure, it’s whether the players actually want to play in college. As a VDA parent or coach, I’m genuinely curious what your interest is in commenting on a page that’s clearly focused on Rev.

[Anonymous]

Some parents followed their coach from FCV, fully understanding that it would take Rev some time just like it does for any club building something new. I’m genuinely curious, what club does your children play for that you feel is doing such an amazing job? I think other parents would appreciate knowing, especially since ID sessions are open everywhere.

Every club right now has their own thread with negative posts. VDA has its own chat, and there are plenty of parents there who complain about playing time yet still choose to stay, and the other half happy. At NVA, after Roberto was removed, half the families want to leave because he’s no longer coaching, while the other half are happy he is gone. SYC, Loudoun, McLean, Union, NVA and St James you have many of their players actively trying out elsewhere right now. Players are jumping around constantly.

Instead of arguing or talking down to one another, why don’t parents come together, give honest feedback, and help bring talent together so the landscape isn’t so saturated? We all know things change every year. A club that wasn’t strong one year can suddenly be very strong the next simply because they recruited the right talent.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]Some parents followed their coach from FCV, fully understanding that it would take Rev some time just like it does for any club building something new. I’m genuinely curious, what club does your children play for that you feel is doing such an amazing job? I think other parents would appreciate knowing, especially since ID sessions are open everywhere.

Every club right now has their own thread with negative posts. VDA has its own chat, and there are plenty of parents there who complain about playing time yet still choose to stay, and the other half happy. At NVA, after Roberto was removed, half the families want to leave because he’s no longer coaching, while the other half are happy he is gone. SYC, Loudoun, McLean, Union, NVA and St James you have many of their players actively trying out elsewhere right now. Players are jumping around constantly.

Instead of arguing or talking down to one another, why don’t parents come together, give honest feedback, and help bring talent together so the landscape isn’t so saturated? We all know things change every year. A club that wasn’t strong one year can suddenly be very strong the next simply because they recruited the right talent.[/quote]
Parents come together? Everyone is in competition with each other. For playing time, for recruiting, for coaches favor. We are trying to get every advantage we can for our kid. I’m not doing anything to help someone else’s kid get past mine. Any info I share here is going to be to direct people away from the club/coach/team we are at. This is how the game is played.

[Anonymous]

^^
I believe this needs to start with coaches.
Parents need to hold them accountable, stop pandering to them. Use your wallet and your feet to show them how to behave. Insist they have actual soccer credentials...from being on a real team... not sitting in soccer school.
Until we stop treating these barely qualified people like celebrities..it will never change.

One new rule i would love to see..no parent can communicate any form with coaches. Not even "managers"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^
I believe this needs to start with coaches.
Parents need to hold them accountable, stop pandering to them. Use your wallet and your feet to show them how to behave. Insist they have actual soccer credentials...from being on a real team... not sitting in soccer school.
Until we stop treating these barely qualified people like celebrities..it will never change.

One new rule i would love to see..no parent can communicate any form with coaches. Not even "managers"

If they are / were SO good at they allegedly do… why aren’t doing back in Europe? No more questions your honor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^
I believe this needs to start with coaches.
Parents need to hold them accountable, stop pandering to them. Use your wallet and your feet to show them how to behave. Insist they have actual soccer credentials...from being on a real team... not sitting in soccer school.
Until we stop treating these barely qualified people like celebrities..it will never change.

One new rule i would love to see..no parent can communicate any form with coaches. Not even "managers"

Yes let’s all vote with our wallets and feet. You go first we’ll be right behind you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^
I believe this needs to start with coaches.
Parents need to hold them accountable, stop pandering to them. Use your wallet and your feet to show them how to behave. Insist they have actual soccer credentials...from being on a real team... not sitting in soccer school.
Until we stop treating these barely qualified people like celebrities..it will never change.

One new rule i would love to see..no parent can communicate any form with coaches. Not even "managers"

Yes let’s all vote with our wallets and feet. You go first we’ll be right behind you.

Yea, brave souls hiding behind the wall of anonymity. So courageous

[Anonymous]

Loudoun United has kind of turned into a joke with Revolution trying to attach their name to the USL team. A few days ago they posted photos of a few kids training with LU and pushed the whole pathway to the pros angle. Then they followed that up with pictures of the actual squad. From a marketing perspective it is smart. It sells the idea that kids at Revolution have a real path into the pro team. But anyone with basic common sense knows what is really going on. Those kids are being used to attract more sign ups with almost no real chance of ever ending up on the Loudoun United roster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^
I believe this needs to start with coaches.
Parents need to hold them accountable, stop pandering to them. Use your wallet and your feet to show them how to behave. Insist they have actual soccer credentials...from being on a real team... not sitting in soccer school.
Until we stop treating these barely qualified people like celebrities..it will never change.

One new rule i would love to see..no parent can communicate any form with coaches. Not even "managers"

Have to disagree here. Unless you're blessed with a coach that loves to proactively communicate and actually holds themselves accountable for the things they say, most families already live in a bubble of silence when it comes to their coach. That would be a non-starter and a sure-fire way to end up with more frustrated families.

To be fair, all clubs need to make improvements to how they communicate with families and all coaches should be getting education, provided by the club, on what it means to be a coach aside from understanding soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole narrative is strange. Someone here obviously wants VRSC to fail. In that case, shouldn’t you be cheering the hiring of a bad coach? Instead, you are trying to convince people why he’s a bad coach and why it is certainly, this time, unlike the last 5 times you also said would be the end, but this one will be the end for the club. I wonder if you realize how much you are screaming into an empty space.

Why are you here, posting, in such a useless "empty space" ?

If my dc's club was hiring someone so toxic mid year (meaning: I accepted a team offer to play for Coach A and now we are getting Coach B, which I did not agree to), I would want ALL the information so I could be sure to attend practices and closely supervise his interactions with my Larla. I will not tolerate any abusive behavior towards my children.

+1000

My friends daughter played for him at GFR on the 09's and there was a dad on the team who recorded all of their games. He had to remove the audio before sharing with parents at GD's request because he was caught being so terrible to girls on the sideline. At least 6 girls left his 09 team this past summer because of it. Yes, some people stayed and will tolerate this type of abuse if the coach is winning but it is a FACT that he is verbally abusive to girls. And I don't mind my kid being pushed hard but being called names and berated in front of her teammates is abuse and crosses a line!

CC FIRED HIM from FCV - why in the WORLD would VRSC hire him now???

Btw- you can't remove audio from VEO... also "my friends daughter" sooo this is so far removed. Game of telephone, truths because totally twisted. Absolutely sad state this world is.

It wasn't VEO, it was a hand held video camera. The dad is notorious for recording the matches and posting them on youtube. If you want to speculate that this isn't accurate, that's fine but I assure you it happened. I saw many of the clips and he has covered them up with sound bites from EPL games!

Again, can’t quite add up. Parents aren’t allowed on the side line with players and coaches?? So this guy video-ed across the field and got clear audio?? Haha.

Nope, he requested from refs to be on the sideline where the teams were and was usually granted that permission as long as he stood back from the sideline, usually up a hill or in bleachers at a stadium. Not always, but often he was allowed. I've seen the videos and he's clearly on the side with the coaches and players.

Now this gets better…the story evolves to great detail. “He stood back from the sideline” (Up a hill or in the bleaches at the stadium) how does that allow for justifiable audio? Only reason you have this notion he was on the side line with players and coaches is because he films his close ups during WARM UPS. Not one ref allows during game time parents near ear shot of coaches and players. Huge violations and fines.

So, the guy who filmed GD's games at GFR made all of his videos public. You can now see for yourself that yes, indeed, the parent who filmed them did stand behind the coaches and players to film. I have not taken my time to go through them and find examples of GD yelliing/berating players yet but you can see clearly here that this dad was indeed filming from behind the coaches and their voices are both clear as a bell on the older videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1a4okqZO0&list=PLyY00vM7riGiXn30zUFpfEoLy6zk_tZO2&index=3

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Anonymous wrote:This whole narrative is strange. Someone here obviously wants VRSC to fail. In that case, shouldn’t you be cheering the hiring of a bad coach? Instead, you are trying to convince people why he’s a bad coach and why it is certainly, this time, unlike the last 5 times you also said would be the end, but this one will be the end for the club. I wonder if you realize how much you are screaming into an empty space.

Why are you here, posting, in such a useless "empty space" ?

If my dc's club was hiring someone so toxic mid year (meaning: I accepted a team offer to play for Coach A and now we are getting Coach B, which I did not agree to), I would want ALL the information so I could be sure to attend practices and closely supervise his interactions with my Larla. I will not tolerate any abusive behavior towards my children.

+1000

My friends daughter played for him at GFR on the 09's and there was a dad on the team who recorded all of their games. He had to remove the audio before sharing with parents at GD's request because he was caught being so terrible to girls on the sideline. At least 6 girls left his 09 team this past summer because of it. Yes, some people stayed and will tolerate this type of abuse if the coach is winning but it is a FACT that he is verbally abusive to girls. And I don't mind my kid being pushed hard but being called names and berated in front of her teammates is abuse and crosses a line!

CC FIRED HIM from FCV - why in the WORLD would VRSC hire him now???

Btw- you can't remove audio from VEO... also "my friends daughter" sooo this is so far removed. Game of telephone, truths because totally twisted. Absolutely sad state this world is.

It wasn't VEO, it was a hand held video camera. The dad is notorious for recording the matches and posting them on youtube. If you want to speculate that this isn't accurate, that's fine but I assure you it happened. I saw many of the clips and he has covered them up with sound bites from EPL games!

Again, can’t quite add up. Parents aren’t allowed on the side line with players and coaches?? So this guy video-ed across the field and got clear audio?? Haha.

Nope, he requested from refs to be on the sideline where the teams were and was usually granted that permission as long as he stood back from the sideline, usually up a hill or in bleachers at a stadium. Not always, but often he was allowed. I've seen the videos and he's clearly on the side with the coaches and players.

Now this gets better…the story evolves to great detail. “He stood back from the sideline” (Up a hill or in the bleaches at the stadium) how does that allow for justifiable audio? Only reason you have this notion he was on the side line with players and coaches is because he films his close ups during WARM UPS. Not one ref allows during game time parents near ear shot of coaches and players. Huge violations and fines.

So, the guy who filmed GD's games at GFR made all of his videos public. You can now see for yourself that yes, indeed, the parent who filmed them did stand behind the coaches and players to film. I have not taken my time to go through them and find examples of GD yelliing/berating players yet but you can see clearly here that this dad was indeed filming from behind the coaches and their voices are both clear as a bell on the older videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1a4okqZO0&list=PLyY00vM7riGiXn30zUFpfEoLy6zk_tZO2&index=3

well, clearly there's at least one ref....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole narrative is strange. Someone here obviously wants VRSC to fail. In that case, shouldn’t you be cheering the hiring of a bad coach? Instead, you are trying to convince people why he’s a bad coach and why it is certainly, this time, unlike the last 5 times you also said would be the end, but this one will be the end for the club. I wonder if you realize how much you are screaming into an empty space.

Why are you here, posting, in such a useless "empty space" ?

If my dc's club was hiring someone so toxic mid year (meaning: I accepted a team offer to play for Coach A and now we are getting Coach B, which I did not agree to), I would want ALL the information so I could be sure to attend practices and closely supervise his interactions with my Larla. I will not tolerate any abusive behavior towards my children.

+1000

My friends daughter played for him at GFR on the 09's and there was a dad on the team who recorded all of their games. He had to remove the audio before sharing with parents at GD's request because he was caught being so terrible to girls on the sideline. At least 6 girls left his 09 team this past summer because of it. Yes, some people stayed and will tolerate this type of abuse if the coach is winning but it is a FACT that he is verbally abusive to girls. And I don't mind my kid being pushed hard but being called names and berated in front of her teammates is abuse and crosses a line!

CC FIRED HIM from FCV - why in the WORLD would VRSC hire him now???

Btw- you can't remove audio from VEO... also "my friends daughter" sooo this is so far removed. Game of telephone, truths because totally twisted. Absolutely sad state this world is.

It wasn't VEO, it was a hand held video camera. The dad is notorious for recording the matches and posting them on youtube. If you want to speculate that this isn't accurate, that's fine but I assure you it happened. I saw many of the clips and he has covered them up with sound bites from EPL games!

Again, can’t quite add up. Parents aren’t allowed on the side line with players and coaches?? So this guy video-ed across the field and got clear audio?? Haha.

Nope, he requested from refs to be on the sideline where the teams were and was usually granted that permission as long as he stood back from the sideline, usually up a hill or in bleachers at a stadium. Not always, but often he was allowed. I've seen the videos and he's clearly on the side with the coaches and players.

Now this gets better…the story evolves to great detail. “He stood back from the sideline” (Up a hill or in the bleaches at the stadium) how does that allow for justifiable audio? Only reason you have this notion he was on the side line with players and coaches is because he films his close ups during WARM UPS. Not one ref allows during game time parents near ear shot of coaches and players. Huge violations and fines.

So, the guy who filmed GD's games at GFR made all of his videos public. You can now see for yourself that yes, indeed, the parent who filmed them did stand behind the coaches and players to film. I have not taken my time to go through them and find examples of GD yelliing/berating players yet but you can see clearly here that this dad was indeed filming from behind the coaches and their voices are both clear as a bell on the older videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1a4okqZO0&list=PLyY00vM7riGiXn30zUFpfEoLy6zk_tZO2&index=3

I clicked on 2 videos and both were from the PARENT SIDELINE!

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Anonymous wrote:This whole narrative is strange. Someone here obviously wants VRSC to fail. In that case, shouldn’t you be cheering the hiring of a bad coach? Instead, you are trying to convince people why he’s a bad coach and why it is certainly, this time, unlike the last 5 times you also said would be the end, but this one will be the end for the club. I wonder if you realize how much you are screaming into an empty space.

Why are you here, posting, in such a useless "empty space" ?

If my dc's club was hiring someone so toxic mid year (meaning: I accepted a team offer to play for Coach A and now we are getting Coach B, which I did not agree to), I would want ALL the information so I could be sure to attend practices and closely supervise his interactions with my Larla. I will not tolerate any abusive behavior towards my children.

+1000

My friends daughter played for him at GFR on the 09's and there was a dad on the team who recorded all of their games. He had to remove the audio before sharing with parents at GD's request because he was caught being so terrible to girls on the sideline. At least 6 girls left his 09 team this past summer because of it. Yes, some people stayed and will tolerate this type of abuse if the coach is winning but it is a FACT that he is verbally abusive to girls. And I don't mind my kid being pushed hard but being called names and berated in front of her teammates is abuse and crosses a line!

CC FIRED HIM from FCV - why in the WORLD would VRSC hire him now???

Btw- you can't remove audio from VEO... also "my friends daughter" sooo this is so far removed. Game of telephone, truths because totally twisted. Absolutely sad state this world is.

It wasn't VEO, it was a hand held video camera. The dad is notorious for recording the matches and posting them on youtube. If you want to speculate that this isn't accurate, that's fine but I assure you it happened. I saw many of the clips and he has covered them up with sound bites from EPL games!

Again, can’t quite add up. Parents aren’t allowed on the side line with players and coaches?? So this guy video-ed across the field and got clear audio?? Haha.

Nope, he requested from refs to be on the sideline where the teams were and was usually granted that permission as long as he stood back from the sideline, usually up a hill or in bleachers at a stadium. Not always, but often he was allowed. I've seen the videos and he's clearly on the side with the coaches and players.

Now this gets better…the story evolves to great detail. “He stood back from the sideline” (Up a hill or in the bleaches at the stadium) how does that allow for justifiable audio? Only reason you have this notion he was on the side line with players and coaches is because he films his close ups during WARM UPS. Not one ref allows during game time parents near ear shot of coaches and players. Huge violations and fines.

So, the guy who filmed GD's games at GFR made all of his videos public. You can now see for yourself that yes, indeed, the parent who filmed them did stand behind the coaches and players to film. I have not taken my time to go through them and find examples of GD yelliing/berating players yet but you can see clearly here that this dad was indeed filming from behind the coaches and their voices are both clear as a bell on the older videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG1a4okqZO0&list=PLyY00vM7riGiXn30zUFpfEoLy6zk_tZO2&index=3

I clicked on 2 videos and both were from the PARENT SIDELINE!

Exactly, thank you for finding this. The guy who videos GD’s games does videoing on the field during WARM UP. He’s not even though folks want to claim he’s been in bleachers behind players benches that does not happen. I love the proof. Thank you.