US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?


Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.


And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.



Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!


And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.


That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants


Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?


Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.
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Anonymous wrote:America ha been lagging behind the world for some time now. Hopefully, now thing will become better in America again. I do not want third world countries to surpass America.

Here is the POV I am talking about.





What’s the point?


As I suspected. Too dumb to even realize how far behind America has fallen.

This is directed at all races, if the US isn’t good enough for you, why are you even here? You could move somewhere else, somewhere better esp if you you have so many great qualities to offer.

And interestingly, the US has only ‘fallen’ since we began accepting people from every village in the world, that’s precisely when we began to lag behind the rest.


This is something to consider actually


Vast majority of american ancestors were undesirables.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?


Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.


And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.



Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!


And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.


Proof that acing a SAT test doesn't make you a well adjusted and cultured person. I don't know if you've noticed but there's a federal holiday here for MLK not Ghandi whom a growing a number of Indians can't even stand anymore.
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Great. If race is not being considered then the biggest losers in admissions will be URM and whites who are not academically equal or better than Asians. I am not bothered by their plight.

And if this is all smoke and mirrors and rich kids(legacy) will get in anyways and Asian Americans will continue to be penalized for academic excellence...well, then what's new? We are used to this shitshow. We are still finding ways to do well in this country. The more we are oppressed the more we use our brains and rise on the top.

The URMs are not our friends, but neither are the Whites. So there.

It is not as if Asians will stop studying and working hard because of what the supreme court of America says. we are well aware how these justices came to be selected. This was also not merit. we don't get easily fooled because we depend on our own abilities.
LOL.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously why is everyone making this about asian kids? WTF?


The court case was brought by a racist organization but the person they used in The middle of the case was an Asian person.


Yep.

The "model minority" myth.

Asian Americans were merely used as pawns.



How condescending of you as to assume that the Asian Americans involved in the lawsuit weren’t smart enough or didn’t have enough agency of their own so they were made “pawns.” That’s a pretty racist trope as well.


So it's worse to point out that people are being used as pawns than it is to use people as pawns (which Blum and his racist cronies absolutely did). Noted.

Except that all you said was false. You're lying POS.


(OP here)

Please stop posting insults directed at other posters. All opinions all welcome, but personal attacks are not.

Where are you when they insulted Asians as bots and test takers?
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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?


Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.


And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.



Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!


And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.


That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants


Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?


The ignorance in this post is stunning.
I’m Indian but if you immigrate to this country, at least try to understand its history


If indians can rise to the top in a matter of a single generation, you can't say it's the same color of the skin that's holding back blacks. Indians are family centered people who value education for their children. These are some of the reasons of their success.

I am willing to bet that PP, having risen to the top of his or her field, will choose a lily-white neighborhood to the slums of the ghetto where s/he and their children can mingle with the diversity people. PP doesn't believe in the no sense s/he is posting.
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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?


Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.


And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.



Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!


And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.


That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants


+1

Again, to not know the US history is shameful.
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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?


Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.


And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.



Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!


And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.


Proof that acing a SAT test doesn't make you a well adjusted and cultured person. I don't know if you've noticed but there's a federal holiday here for MLK not Ghandi whom a growing a number of Indians can't even stand anymore.

Not PP, but whenever someone said "cultured", I laughed hard at them as this is a sign of being weak and lack of confidence of themselves. Your inability to crack the watered-down SAT does show.
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously why is everyone making this about asian kids? WTF?


The court case was brought by a racist organization but the person they used in The middle of the case was an Asian person.


Yep.

The "model minority" myth.

Asian Americans were merely used as pawns.



How condescending of you as to assume that the Asian Americans involved in the lawsuit weren’t smart enough or didn’t have enough agency of their own so they were made “pawns.” That’s a pretty racist trope as well.


Yeah, they had so much "agency" that not one Asian American student in the Harvard or UNC cases testified that they were discriminated against.

Stay silent and say nothing.

Pawns.


+1

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Anonymous wrote:Great. If race is not being considered then the biggest losers in admissions will be URM and whites who are not academically equal or better than Asians. I am not bothered by their plight.

And if this is all smoke and mirrors and rich kids(legacy) will get in anyways and Asian Americans will continue to be penalized for academic excellence...well, then what's new? We are used to this shitshow. We are still finding ways to do well in this country. The more we are oppressed the more we use our brains and rise on the top.

The URMs are not our friends, but neither are the Whites. So there.

It is not as if Asians will stop studying and working hard because of what the supreme court of America says. we are well aware how these justices came to be selected. This was also not merit. we don't get easily fooled because we depend on our own abilities.
LOL.


My guess is this is person who is trying to stir up anti-Asian sentiment by posing as the most stereotypical version of Asian they can possibly imagine. I'm so sick of this on anonymous forums. I hope nobody falls for all this crap.
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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?


Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.


And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.



Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!


And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.


That doesn’t change the point of their message: Asians did, in fact, start to immigrate to the US in much higher numbers due to the Civil Rights Movement loosening the country’s racist immigration laws. Sure, MLK was inspired by Gandhi, but it was MLK, not Gandhi, who got the job done here, and we should be grateful for that.

— child of Indian immigrants


Indians have the same color of skin as blacks. Yet, they are hugely successful. Why are blacks so special that you have to feel sorry for? Did Indians enslaved blacks?


Dear Lord! Are the current Indian immigrants and their offspring descendants of enslaved people? From my experience, the “successful” Indian families I know come from a position of relative privilege- wealthy enough to pay for a US education or come with a work visa because they have a sought after degree. Did they grow up with the same hurdles most Black and Hispanic face? Probably not.

The offsprings of Nigerian doctors that Harvard admitted were NOT descendants of enslaved people. And they grew up in a much wealthier environment than a lot of the Indian immigrants.
Just admit you're buying votes with affirmative action, not really trying to help the poor blacks. It's not that hard to see.


Affirmative Action is not and never has been about poverty or class. It was a remedy for the fact that in this country black people, all black people no matter where they were born or when they arrived or how much money they have, are discriminated against because of the color of their skin, limiting opportunity, freedom, access to colleges and board rooms, and creating a deficit of role models for black youth in industry and professions.

Affirmative Action is a remedy for discrimination, not poverty.
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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?


Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.


And Asian Indian person to say eff you to the black person who says eff you:

Have you not heard of the decolonization movement in india and Asia in the 1940s and 1950s that precended the US Civil Rights movement in the 1960s? Do you think the black Civil rights movement in the 1960s would have been successful without the decolonization moments in india that happened in the first half of the 20th century? So before you throw stones ar Asians perhaps you should look at your own history more carefully.



Not everything revolves around India as much as you would like to believe it.
Your presence in the US owes much to MLK and Black Americans unending fight for justice. Be grateful!


And MLK would not be who he is without the non-violent movement that was championed by Gandhi. So there.


Proof that acing a SAT test doesn't make you a well adjusted and cultured person. I don't know if you've noticed but there's a federal holiday here for MLK not Ghandi whom a growing a number of Indians can't even stand anymore.


Hey, are you the village idiot or just a product of the American anti-meritocracy education system? There is no one named Ghandi that Indians know of. There is a restaurant called Handi in NoVa, though. I think you should try their food. Eating some turmeric may help your brain fog though it cannot cure congenital idiocy.
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Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans have it hard in the admissions process


Because they aren't diverse!
Maybe take risks, be a comedian, or play drums for a rock band. Or apply to the school of social work.
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Hmmm... even that narrative is incorrect. Since I am an Indian, let me share with you the names of Indian comedians - Mindy Kaling, Kal Penn, Hasan Minhaz, Zarna Garg, Russell Peters, Aziz Ansari to name just a few.

Also, taking risks, being a comedian, playing drums for a rock band and applying to the school of social work - is the kool-aid that people in power pour down the gullets of poors and URMs. Sorry, I will pass. My kids will play the tabla/sitar and also double major in Physics/Economics. That is the way we roll!






And.....? Your sons are still incels whose only hope of getting wives is through arranged marriages . Graduating in economics/physics guarantees nothing . Don't believe me ? Ask all the Indians being let go by tech firms in their multiple rounds of layoffs. Some of them are on work visas and have to find jobs within 69 days or leave the country or face deportations. Now , I hear some are roaming the country like stray cats in search of food .


Cope and seethe


At least you admit that I what I said is true.
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Anonymous wrote:America ha been lagging behind the world for some time now. Hopefully, now thing will become better in America again. I do not want third world countries to surpass America.

Here is the POV I am talking about.





What’s the point?


As I suspected. Too dumb to even realize how far behind America has fallen.

This is directed at all races, if the US isn’t good enough for you, why are you even here? You could move somewhere else, somewhere better esp if you you have so many great qualities to offer.

And interestingly, the US has only ‘fallen’ since we began accepting people from every village in the world, that’s precisely when we began to lag behind the rest.


This is something to consider actually


Vast majority of american ancestors were undesirables.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

True. Not intended to offend anyone here but why, prior to, I don’t know, 1980s? was our education system ‘better’? That’s why immigration increased during this time, because our education system was supposed to be excellent. Not so much now, and I honestly see changes that have led to this. I think it’s challenging at best to effectively educate such a diverse population. There are so many conflicting social norms and etiquette now. I think without the massive immigration during the 70-80s we’d be globally competitive still.
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