Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of the Wootton name, and getting rid of a top performing school is what the BOE and Mont County Gov would call "equity". The Wootton parents can just pay for private schools if they don't like it. if you are a Wootton parent, perhaps you should consider this when voting BOE and county positions.

I can’t afford private schools for my kids. I need to save for their college tuition

The only people I know in the Wootton cluster who would be able to pay for private are the ones that only have one kid. We also can’t afford it. A lot of people on this thread think Wootton parents are very rich apparently.

You are saying you are rich and being exclusive because of your expensive houses. You are very rich. You just are house poor or not managing your money well.

Weird comment. You realize that a lot of houses in Wootton are not more expensive than in the adjacent clusters. My neighborhood was built in the 70s and we have 2000 sq ft. The house has an awful floor plan and tiny dark rooms. We could have spent the same for a much nicer house a mile to two down the road outside the boundary but we wanted Wootton. We aren’t rich. We could never have afforded private schools. We have never had fancy cars. My kids have never taken fancy vacations. There’s no big college nest egg. Lots of families are like ours.

Do I want to stay in Wootton? Of course. Do I know school boundaries can change? Of course. Stop stereotyping please.

[Anonymous]

Wootton is the affordable W school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the affordable W school

Which is why it's the easier target and the one always beat up on.

As previous poster mentioned, once can choose to settle for a little bit less for the money in choosing Wootton vs some other areas.

And the same can be said for choosing Wootton over some of the other richer areas.

But this whole process shows what areas are more protected and in hindsight it is apparent, where some of the schools there don't have to deal with some of the nonsense that some of the Wootton cluster schools did. Those Wayside parents sure didn't want to get zoned to Wootton.

So it may very well be worth it to move to an even older/smaller home in these richer areas but also have more protection against these kinds of things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the affordable W school

Yeah, the rich W schools are all untouched but somehow people think the poorest W school can be bullied. Please direct the energy to other W schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the affordable W school

Which is why it's the easier target and the one always beat up on.

As previous poster mentioned, once can choose to settle for a little bit less for the money in choosing Wootton vs some other areas.

And the same can be said for choosing Wootton over some of the other richer areas.

But this whole process shows what areas are more protected and in hindsight it is apparent, where some of the schools there don't have to deal with some of the nonsense that some of the Wootton cluster schools did. Those Wayside parents sure didn't want to get zoned to Wootton.

So it may very well be worth it to move to an even older/smaller home in these richer areas but also have more protection against these kinds of things.

No one is targeting or beating up on Wootton. Wootton is just being unrealistic about the boundary situation and crying about it.

First it was unfair that Dufief has to leave the cluster
Second was it is unfair that the school is falling apart
Third is that it is unfair that Wootton needs to move to a new building
Fourth is that it is unfair that Gaithersburg students will be at the new building with Wootton.

Wootton boundaries are right along where the area with Crown. There will be changes to Wootton. You all need to be realistic about the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of the Wootton name, and getting rid of a top performing school is what the BOE and Mont County Gov would call "equity". The Wootton parents can just pay for private schools if they don't like it. if you are a Wootton parent, perhaps you should consider this when voting BOE and county positions.

I can’t afford private schools for my kids. I need to save for their college tuition

The only people I know in the Wootton cluster who would be able to pay for private are the ones that only have one kid. We also can’t afford it. A lot of people on this thread think Wootton parents are very rich apparently.

You are saying you are rich and being exclusive because of your expensive houses. You are very rich. You just are house poor or not managing your money well.

You’re wrong about house price. Majority of Wootton houses are around 1 million and when we bought them they costed 700-800k. It’s not more expensive, it’s just poorer and older condition than those in Gaithersburg

700-800 is still a lot of money. You can sell and buy a house for 600, and use that extra 400 for college or private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the affordable W school

Yeah, the rich W schools are all untouched but somehow people think the poorest W school can be bullied. Please direct the energy to other W schools.

Poorest.. oh please. Screaming poverty in a million dollar house is not poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of the Wootton name, and getting rid of a top performing school is what the BOE and Mont County Gov would call "equity". The Wootton parents can just pay for private schools if they don't like it. if you are a Wootton parent, perhaps you should consider this when voting BOE and county positions.

I can’t afford private schools for my kids. I need to save for their college tuition

The only people I know in the Wootton cluster who would be able to pay for private are the ones that only have one kid. We also can’t afford it. A lot of people on this thread think Wootton parents are very rich apparently.

Wootton does have some more upper class areas. Maybe not as rich as some of the stereotypical/traditional richer areas around here.

One thing that kind of struck me were the number of speakers today that contribute to society in general. We had:
-a police officer
-at least one professor (was it two?)
-a city councilman
-an education policy maker

And I'm guessing the speaker who referenced Astra Zeneca is a researcher and helps in a related field to that.

Yet people on the board choose to beat up on them.

It even goes back to how Wootton had been neglected for so long. You'd think one of the top five performing high schools in the district would kind of be valued and be given all these special things and considerations. Like they'd be given some brand new state of the art campus to help them to continue to excel. But instead the student body makes do with what they have, they do complain about it once in a while, and still perform.

Seems kind of backwards to me.

What are you referencing with “board beating up on them”? I didn’t watch the meeting. Are you referring to the “kids are watching” comment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting rid of the Wootton name, and getting rid of a top performing school is what the BOE and Mont County Gov would call "equity". The Wootton parents can just pay for private schools if they don't like it. if you are a Wootton parent, perhaps you should consider this when voting BOE and county positions.

I can’t afford private schools for my kids. I need to save for their college tuition

The only people I know in the Wootton cluster who would be able to pay for private are the ones that only have one kid. We also can’t afford it. A lot of people on this thread think Wootton parents are very rich apparently.

Wootton does have some more upper class areas. Maybe not as rich as some of the stereotypical/traditional richer areas around here.

One thing that kind of struck me were the number of speakers today that contribute to society in general. We had:
-a police officer
-at least one professor (was it two?)
-a city councilman
-an education policy maker

And I'm guessing the speaker who referenced Astra Zeneca is a researcher and helps in a related field to that.

Yet people on the board choose to beat up on them.

It even goes back to how Wootton had been neglected for so long. You'd think one of the top five performing high schools in the district would kind of be valued and be given all these special things and considerations. Like they'd be given some brand new state of the art campus to help them to continue to excel. But instead the student body makes do with what they have, they do complain about it once in a while, and still perform.

Seems kind of backwards to me.

What are you referencing with “board beating up on them”? I didn’t watch the meeting. Are you referring to the “kids are watching” comment?

No I mean the members on this message board/forum. Sorry I'm old and still use old internet terminology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the affordable W school

Which is why it's the easier target and the one always beat up on.

As previous poster mentioned, once can choose to settle for a little bit less for the money in choosing Wootton vs some other areas.

And the same can be said for choosing Wootton over some of the other richer areas.

But this whole process shows what areas are more protected and in hindsight it is apparent, where some of the schools there don't have to deal with some of the nonsense that some of the Wootton cluster schools did. Those Wayside parents sure didn't want to get zoned to Wootton.

So it may very well be worth it to move to an even older/smaller home in these richer areas but also have more protection against these kinds of things.

No one is targeting or beating up on Wootton. Wootton is just being unrealistic about the boundary situation and crying about it.

First it was unfair that Dufief has to leave the cluster
Second was it is unfair that the school is falling apart
Third is that it is unfair that Wootton needs to move to a new building
Fourth is that it is unfair that Gaithersburg students will be at the new building with Wootton.

Wootton boundaries are right along where the area with Crown. There will be changes to Wootton. You all need to be realistic about the situation.

Very well laid out. Also I think Travilah was moaning about something early on.

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Anonymous wrote:We just watched Wootton families act like the gangsters they think my kids are as they bullied the board. Ballsy move that would only be made by highly entitled individuals that think they are untouchable.

What exactly did they do to bully the board? Most of them spoke within their allotted time, one of them might have gone slightly over their time, and one of them may have been a bit overzealous.

But is it any different then when other community members come to speak and have support in the background? Like the Crown and Fields Road families from a couple of weeks ago and they had everyone wearing the yellow vests and there were some today too.

How is one group different then the other? Or were they both trying to bully the board?

it’s only bullying when Wootton parents do it, for everyone else it’s just standing up and advocating for their kids.

This!!!

Read this parent whose lobbying to not fund other schools repairs for Wootton. They aren't advocating for their kids as if they were they'd take the new school. https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DMVQRQ6A7E72/$file/Junhua%20Liu%20Testimony%20102825.pdf

Can you quote the part of her letter where you believe she's "lobbying to not fund other schools repairs for Wootton?"

I found it in the section where they referenced the per pupil cost for Highland compared to Wootton.

I kind of read it as them just looking at the numbers and not really realizing how it their analysis might be taken.

So maybe a booksmart but not really socially savvy. Especially given the part where they mention that Cold Spring made it onto the CIP and it's been established in a couple of threads on here that it's really small school that doesn't serve a large population. So the funds for that school could've benefited more students elsewhere. Similar with what that person was saying about Highland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the affordable W school

Which is why it's the easier target and the one always beat up on.

As previous poster mentioned, once can choose to settle for a little bit less for the money in choosing Wootton vs some other areas.

And the same can be said for choosing Wootton over some of the other richer areas.

But this whole process shows what areas are more protected and in hindsight it is apparent, where some of the schools there don't have to deal with some of the nonsense that some of the Wootton cluster schools did. Those Wayside parents sure didn't want to get zoned to Wootton.

So it may very well be worth it to move to an even older/smaller home in these richer areas but also have more protection against these kinds of things.

No one is targeting or beating up on Wootton. Wootton is just being unrealistic about the boundary situation and crying about it.

First it was unfair that Dufief has to leave the cluster
Second was it is unfair that the school is falling apart
Third is that it is unfair that Wootton needs to move to a new building
Fourth is that it is unfair that Gaithersburg students will be at the new building with Wootton.

Wootton boundaries are right along where the area with Crown. There will be changes to Wootton. You all need to be realistic about the situation.

Changes like:
being moved to a new building miles from the original
a new name
new student cohort
new teachers
new admin
new programs
leveling the old Wootton

Apart from those things it'll be EXACTLY THE SAME.

Why would they get new teachers, programs or admin (and the program changes could be good). They can also keep the name.

[Anonymous]

It’s funny because I actually thought that letter writer had a point in that I’m not sure rebuilding Highland View passes an ROI test, with declining enrollment/capacity at other ES’s.

But then she goes and loses all credibility by supporting rebuilding Cold Spring. LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Coming out of the meeting today, where do we think this will land? Anyone get a feel?

I wasn’t there but from what i’ve heard it was almost all people against H. No real supporters. BOE didn’t really make any meaningful comments.

A couple clowns made A**es of themselves, and Wootton to Crown seems predetermined.

I was there. I believe it is largely predetermined, and if not, today’s meeting sealed the deal. Need to add How to Talk to Others to Get What you Want to the Wootton course catalogue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the affordable W school

Which is why it's the easier target and the one always beat up on.

As previous poster mentioned, once can choose to settle for a little bit less for the money in choosing Wootton vs some other areas.

And the same can be said for choosing Wootton over some of the other richer areas.

But this whole process shows what areas are more protected and in hindsight it is apparent, where some of the schools there don't have to deal with some of the nonsense that some of the Wootton cluster schools did. Those Wayside parents sure didn't want to get zoned to Wootton.

So it may very well be worth it to move to an even older/smaller home in these richer areas but also have more protection against these kinds of things.

No one is targeting or beating up on Wootton. Wootton is just being unrealistic about the boundary situation and crying about it.

First it was unfair that Dufief has to leave the cluster
Second was it is unfair that the school is falling apart
Third is that it is unfair that Wootton needs to move to a new building
Fourth is that it is unfair that Gaithersburg students will be at the new building with Wootton.

Wootton boundaries are right along where the area with Crown. There will be changes to Wootton. You all need to be realistic about the situation.

Changes like:
being moved to a new building miles from the original
a new name
new student cohort
new teachers
new admin
new programs
leveling the old Wootton

Apart from those things it'll be EXACTLY THE SAME.

The bolded has no basis in fact.
If Wootton were moved to a holding school for a year while the current building was leveled and a new building in its place, would you have an issue? No. So that is not a thing.
There may be an additional student cohort, not splitting up the current one.

So yes, there will be changes- many students very much inconvenienced by traveling to a new location. That is real. Yes, there will be a new name, but I can't see the meaningful argument for why that matters much. And...tell me why additional students is a bad thing?