PREACH!!! This thread should simply be to discuss the story and characters. Not wasting space with debates about exactly how old a certain character must be or whining because the show didn't take the time to accurately portray the exact amount of time it would have taken to get from point A to point B. ![]() |
DP. How is it pompous to ask people to just pay attention to the story so that they don't have to come here and ask blindingly obvious questions? |
I watch the show and understand what is going on (the randall vising adult tess and other things), however, that does NOT mean that little errors don't bother me as a viewer. Plot holes bother me in movies and things like changing geography or timelines bother me as well. It does take away from the story because you are being asked to overlook factual errors. Yes, the show is fiction, but it is not science fiction or fantasy. It is about a family but you can't change the space/time continuum just because it allows your story to unfold the way you want.
It is sloppy and crappy writing and frankly, this show is better than that. I wish the writers would realize they need to step up their game when it comes to details. |
![]() I don't find it "sloppy or crappy writing" at all. I guess because I'm too engrossed in the characters and storyline to care (or even notice) if something isn't absolutely, perfectly, to the second, accurate. That's why a new thread for that kind of stuff would be great. I'll even start it for you. |
I don't think writing needs to be perfect but glaring errors like geography? Yeah, that is noticeable and can take away from a show. Especially when it happens again and again. It is not like they spent one episode messing up the NJ/PA/CA geography thing, it is constantly. Then it becomes sloppy writing.
Why is it so hard to understand than to some people these things matter and can distract from the show because they are trying to figure out and reconcile with what they thought they knew this new set of situations/story lines. Fact, Kevin and the tree coulnd't have happened in the time frame they gave unless the tree was in NJ. So, some people were trying to figure out where this tree would be. Same with the therapy session. Yeah, it does matter if it only took Randall 20 minutes to get to work or 2 hours because that could affect his mental health. It is like the writing have never commuted to work. Does it ruin the show? Not fully, but i hate have to reconcile new information that does not fit at all with other information they have already given me or facts. |
What if Kevin left very early in the day? (To go to the tree) |
Pittsburh/NJ is a 6 hour commute. |
So if he had a brief conversation with mom at 8:30am then mysteriously disappears (drives), he could get there by 4:30 or 5. Not 100% dark yet. |
PP here who really doesn't love all this minutia, but understands. Remember how in Brothers and Sisters, they were moving back and forth from Pasadena to Santa Barbara?!
About the tree. It is 4 hours away. The doctor said it would be four hours until they get the results. They drove there and almost immediately the hospital called. I looked at a map, and Pittsburgh is about a 4 hour drive from Philadelphia so I'm going to pretend the tree was there. So, let's say Kevin and Rebecca talked in the morning about what they would do. Rebecca went to the grocery story, Kevin tried to keep busy. By 10 am, he's on the road (on a Sunday - so less traffic) to the tree. From a north point of NJ (I picked New Brunswick), he's about 1 hours from this tree in Philadelphia. He does his talk, and is back on the road by noon. He arrives around 2. All daylight, still enough time to watch the Super Bowl with his mom. I hope this clears this up. I don't know NY Commute to NJ well enough to solve that one...but I really want to get back to focusing on the characters and the storylines. So I'm hoping this one (with wiggle room for an hour here or there) clears it up. |
PP here - remember Rebecca doesn't live in Pittsburgh present day. She's somewhere in Jersey, closer to Randall. |
This makes me feel warm inside, my husband and I are similar to Jack and Rebecca. We have both experienced a tumultuous past, it's the two of us against the world in the sense that there aren't other people outside of our marriage that we use for emotional support. IDK why, that's just how we fit together. Our parents, siblings, friends, ect for various reasons cannot be the roles we fulfill for each other. But don't compare your marriages to the show. Jack and Rebecca do not have close relationships with their parents, they do not have siblings apart of their lives, even their inner circle of friends recognize Jack and Rebecca operate together. If your mother or father would be that person who would prop you up after significant blow, I envy that so much. |
What ruins the show for me is coming here to discuss with other fans, only to have everything come to a screeching halt because some posters can't move past tiny, inconsequential "errors" that were made, probably because there simply isn't enough time in an hour to show all the commuting you guys seem to want to see. For the sake of brevity, they don't shoot the show that way, which I appreciate. I'm not interested in watching a character driving a car endlessly just for the sake of accuracy. I appreciate that they move the story along without wringing their hands over trivial matters. I wish some of the posters here would embrace the story, and let go of the obsession over distances, geography, weather, and time. Or, as several posters have suggested, *start a new thread.* |
AMEN. Let's hope this satisfies so we can move on, already. |
PP here. This is very true. My mom is my very best friend and she would absolutely be (and has been) my emotional support in bad times. Not that my husband isn't there for me, but he's just not a very empathetic person. I go to her for that. |
DCUM ruins the show for you? Hmm. |