Girl Raped at Rockville HS

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the $ for that kind of school security supposed to come from?

I'm still not clear on how the victim knew the one perp?

I don't know about that. Also read that the victim may have known the one attached?

But, honestly, IMO it doesn't matter. Whether she knew him or not, she did not deserve to be raped.

If the one attacker lived in the Crystal Springs apartment complex on Bel Pre - that is a fairly large apartment complex. Maybe they both lived there so had seen each other around?

Knowing of the attacker does not mean that they were friends.

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Known the one attacker not attached

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Anonymous wrote:The failure by the administration to even look at the situation to see if there is a problem is terrible. They are just digging in their heels. Of course there are bad white kids, bad black kids, bad legal immigrates, bad illegal immigrates but many more good. But does the policy of allowing kids who you know are illegal immigrants but you do not have documentation of true age (plus incentive to lie about age), no understanding of their background, no documentation of supervision or residency, knowing they are fleeing from a bad environment into school with the current population increase the risk of crime against students? Maybe it doesn't (I doubt) and notice I personally do not feel that the ability to speak English is relevant. Look at the safety impact and the resource impact. why won't they even look at the program to see if it is flawed?? I cannot believe Smith dug in his heels. The rape was terrible, gruesome, but it could have been even worse and next time might be. Please just look at the policy, why is it unreasonable to have to provide proof of age? why it unreasonable to have to provide proof of residency, proof of a clean record? The taxpayers, parents have a right to know.

Agree completely.

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Anonymous wrote:The failure by the administration to even look at the situation to see if there is a problem is terrible. They are just digging in their heels. Of course there are bad white kids, bad black kids, bad legal immigrates, bad illegal immigrates but many more good. But does the policy of allowing kids who you know are illegal immigrants but you do not have documentation of true age (plus incentive to lie about age), no understanding of their background, no documentation of supervision or residency, knowing they are fleeing from a bad environment into school with the current population increase the risk of crime against students? Maybe it doesn't (I doubt) and notice I personally do not feel that the ability to speak English is relevant. Look at the safety impact and the resource impact. why won't they even look at the program to see if it is flawed?? I cannot believe Smith dug in his heels. The rape was terrible, gruesome, but it could have been even worse and next time might be. Please just look at the policy, why is it unreasonable to have to provide proof of age? why it unreasonable to have to provide proof of residency, proof of a clean record? The taxpayers, parents have a right to know.

Exactly. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is the $ for that kind of school security supposed to come from?

I'm still not clear on how the victim knew the one perp?

Security guards are cheap, the dozens of teachers required per building to teach these illegals are costly. 80K per year per teacher and screwing over every kid in the district with thin instruction/resources.

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Anonymous wrote:I am glad Star is not the superintendent anymore. He would have completely swept this under the rug similar to his actions in both Conn and here with teachers having sex with students.

Are you kidding? What the heck do you think Smith was trying to do? He was forced to talk to the media and have this meeting with the community because Hogan blasted him, Spicer talked about it when the national media picked up in the story. He was trying to cover this up, but it blew up in his face. He doesn't give a damn about that poor girl or protecting our kids. Just worried about his reputation. He should step down.

Agreed. I had hope for Smith but his performance on this incident has been a complete disgrace. F-

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Anonymous wrote:I agree it is a resources issue. Teaching ESOL and basic education and now the security costs for watching illegal immigrants students are eating up a huge amount of the MCPS school budget.

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Not enough money for more security guards. 5 guards for 1300 kids? Teachers are expected to take on too many students. No money for an Immersion program or Foreign Language education in elementary school for English speakers, but there is money for us to take in ILLEGAL immigrants?

No thank you. Enough is enough.

Why do you assume the security guards are there for immigrants. Aren't they there for the white kids too?

Yes. There should be enough guards at the school for ALL kids. White, AA, Latinos, Asians.

5 guards at Rockville HS was obviously not enough to prevent this rape. If the issue is funding, then it is a resources issue.

Schools are large buildings. Hallways, nooks, and crannies. Maybe these types of "students" need to be in old elementary school type buildings with a powder room in the classroom. METS classes have a pupil teacher ratio of 15:1 plus an aid. So if the aid counts as 1/2 a teacher it's 10:1.

No freedom of movement around a large building.

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In case things get bad the teacher or any other staff member should never be left alone with them.

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Anonymous wrote:A couple of years ago I read on this board about two kids in MCPS having sex in the stairwell. They were both Hispanic, star the superintendent at the time kept it quiet and swept it under the rug.

Two white kids at a local school were having sex in the locker room. So....

Oh, you didn't hear about that one.... because they were not hispanic. White kids having sex... just part of growing up. Hispanic kids having sex, disgusting.

Also there was a blow job incident on a bus recently. White kids... chirp, chirp, chirp.

NO! This was NOT consensual sex. Stop trying to make this RAPE seem like it was NBD. This was a brutal attack in a bathroom. There is a difference. Again, this was NOT two kids having sex in a stairwell.

The kids having consensual sex that ended up in the paper was at Richard Montgomery. Keep up. I don't think you real have a handle on what is going on in MoCo. You have a very narrow view, you know about this 1 incident and that is making unable to have an educated conversation about this issue.

What are you even talking about?

You compared this RAPE to two kids having consensual sex in a bathroom.

I am saying that there is no comparison.

Yes, kids shouldn't be having sex in the stairwell, but that is nowhere near the same thing as a 14 year old being brutally raped in the bathroom.

If you think it's comparable then there is not even a point in having a discussion.

Consensual sex in the stairwell is not even close to rape . That said, it completely represents a non serious academic setting. The environment is not disciplined or respectable. Just a $17000 per person poorly run daycare.

[Anonymous]

If I had a child in a MCPS I would be seriously considering pulling them out and putting them into a private school right now. The school district is so far over the ideological deep end, it seems hopeless for the children and parents.

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The school board is saying they have no fault here because ICE released one of the rapists last year in Texas and schools have no choice in enrolling. The distraught board member is crying out to the new administration to begin deporting this unacceptable situation the county has been put in. Between the crime, disease , the difficulty in maintaining a academic atmosphere and half a billion dollars per year in school services for illegals the county is crying out for ICE to get in here and do its job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I had a child in a MCPS I would be seriously considering pulling them out and putting them into a private school right now. The school district is so far over the ideological deep end, it seems hopeless for the children and parents.

advice from the expert with no children in the system

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Calm down, lynch mob. You are whipping yourselves into a frenzy because of one crime that happens to fit your narrative of everything wrong with the world. Yes, we should consider whether this crime is an indicator that certain policies should be changed. But calling for the superintendent to resign? That is hysteria and it does your cause no good. Would you have called for the superintendent of the Newtown school district to resign? No, because that was considered an isolated tragedy no one could predict. If you think YOU could have predicted this because undocumented students are so obviously all criminals to you, al I can say is that your prejudices are not supported by facts.

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Anonymous wrote:The school board is saying they have no fault here because ICE released one of the rapists last year in Texas and schools have no choice in enrolling. The distraught board member is crying out to the new administration to begin deporting this unacceptable situation the county has been put in. Between the crime, disease , the difficulty in maintaining a academic atmosphere and half a billion dollars per year in school services for illegals the county is crying out for ICE to get in here and do its job.

It would be far cheaper to bolster security in those countries and get their gang violence under control than the $$$ it costs to provide all these services here in the USA. Every time we build a new school, it costs in the millions and buildings require all the bells and whistles, stadiums, fields, gyms, etc. Far cheaper to provide free education to these people in their own countries!!

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Anonymous wrote:If I had a child in a MCPS I would be seriously considering pulling them out and putting them into a private school right now. The school district is so far over the ideological deep end, it seems hopeless for the children and parents.

advice from the expert with no children in the system

Good luck to you PP. The response from your superintendant was stunning.