Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

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I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

Probably to the same degree that Trump is self-aware enough to know he isn't qualified for his new job.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if at this point Hegseth is just drawing things out to keep attention away from Gabbard and RFK.

I hear he has made substantial progress. Just needs one or two senators. The pressure is turning up on this whole out senators.

I don't think so. It looks like his meeting with Joni Ernst didn't go particularly well. And she's a combat veteran and surviver of sexual assault. It only takes three Republican senators to sink the nomination. I have a really hard time seeing how Hedgseth gets to 50.

Trump will be attending the Army Navy game on Saturday. If DeSantis is in the box with Trump, it is very over for Hedgseth.

No. this DEI woke stuff is dead. It is time for the republicans to support Trump or resign.

I still don't get the opposition to diversity, equity, and inclusion. The opposites are uniformity/conformity, inequity, and exclusion. Who wants to be PRO conformity, inequity, and exclusion?

we want equality and not equity

You can’t support these completely unqualified nominees and bleat about DEI with the same mouth.

Great point!

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Anonymous wrote:They're coming down hard on Joni Ernst.

In case anyone else is seeing the word "warfighter" for the first time and wonders what it means, this one definition I found:

The term "warfighter" is a relatively modern term that has gained prominence in military terminology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. It is often used to describe service members who are directly engaged in combat and military operations.

Hmm. I'm pretty confident there aren't a lot of soldiers that refer to themselves as "warfighters," unless used ironically and with air quotes. Maybe a few 18 year olds in their second week at Parris Island. Joni Ernst is being very cringe.

No. I work for DoD. You hear this term alot (it is analogous to “trigger pullers”).

Civilians think service members all engage in combat, but most do not. They support the effort or the troops (military hospitals, cooks, mechanics, hr, engineers, lawyers, etc).

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

“The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness.”
- Annie Savoy

I agree that he’s not going to make it, though.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

“The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness.”
- Annie Savoy

I agree that he’s not going to make it, though.

Oh there is a lot of pressure on the senators now. If you are a republican senator and you do not vote of him you are gone. Republicans senators and congressmen only serve at Trump’s pleasure. This is not 10 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:They're coming down hard on Joni Ernst.

In case anyone else is seeing the word "warfighter" for the first time and wonders what it means, this one definition I found:

The term "warfighter" is a relatively modern term that has gained prominence in military terminology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. It is often used to describe service members who are directly engaged in combat and military operations.

Hmm. I'm pretty confident there aren't a lot of soldiers that refer to themselves as "warfighters," unless used ironically and with air quotes. Maybe a few 18 year olds in their second week at Parris Island. Joni Ernst is being very cringe.

No. I work for DoD. You hear this term alot (it is analogous to “trigger pullers”).

Civilians think service members all engage in combat, but most do not. They support the effort or the troops (military hospitals, cooks, mechanics, hr, engineers, lawyers, etc).

Yes. But, the significant point is that they support the warfighters.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

“The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness.”
- Annie Savoy

I agree that he’s not going to make it, though.

Oh there is a lot of pressure on the senators now. If you are a republican senator and you do not vote of him you are gone. Republicans senators and congressmen only serve at Trump’s pleasure. This is not 10 years ago.

Not really. This is true for many Senators but not all. Collins not only has freedom to stand up to Trump, many of her constituents want it. Murkowski still has a lot of freedom and Alaska is conservative but not in thrall to MAGA. John Curtis (replace Romney) has a lot of constituents who specifically dislike Trump's morality problems and Hegseth is a mirror for exactly these issues -- they aren't going to boot him because he opposed a Secretary of Defense with a drinking problem and a history of infidelity and bad management. Thom Tillis is from a purple state and while he can't just break from Trump on everything, he could benefit from standing up to him in selective moments and this would be a good one. And then the Joni Ernst issue with her personal background on issues like sexual assault and women in combat is a problem. Oh and you also have Mitch McConnell who is a wildcard -- he cares a lot about defense and NatSec issues and is a lot less tethered to Trump than other Senators. Like John McCain, he may view being a thorn in Trump's side as his swan song before he retires or dies.

You can have 49 Senators who are willing to give Trump whatever he wants but it only takes four to torpedo the nomination and there are more than four currently at least contemplating it. I haven't even listed them all here. And there is also a possibility of a domino effect -- there are people on the fence who won't go out on a limb for this but if enough people start turning against Hegseth they will jump on the bandwagon.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

“The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness.”
- Annie Savoy

I agree that he’s not going to make it, though.

Oh there is a lot of pressure on the senators now. If you are a republican senator and you do not vote of him you are gone. Republicans senators and congressmen only serve at Trump’s pleasure. This is not 10 years ago.

Not really. This is true for many Senators but not all. Collins not only has freedom to stand up to Trump, many of her constituents want it. Murkowski still has a lot of freedom and Alaska is conservative but not in thrall to MAGA. John Curtis (replace Romney) has a lot of constituents who specifically dislike Trump's morality problems and Hegseth is a mirror for exactly these issues -- they aren't going to boot him because he opposed a Secretary of Defense with a drinking problem and a history of infidelity and bad management. Thom Tillis is from a purple state and while he can't just break from Trump on everything, he could benefit from standing up to him in selective moments and this would be a good one. And then the Joni Ernst issue with her personal background on issues like sexual assault and women in combat is a problem. Oh and you also have Mitch McConnell who is a wildcard -- he cares a lot about defense and NatSec issues and is a lot less tethered to Trump than other Senators. Like John McCain, he may view being a thorn in Trump's side as his swan song before he retires or dies.

You can have 49 Senators who are willing to give Trump whatever he wants but it only takes four to torpedo the nomination and there are more than four currently at least contemplating it. I haven't even listed them all here. And there is also a possibility of a domino effect -- there are people on the fence who won't go out on a limb for this but if enough people start turning against Hegseth they will jump on the bandwagon.

You are living in a different time. Right now maga is calling and threatening republicans senators. They are not known for their courage. You think Collins is going to stand up by herself against Trump? Sure she has a history this

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Hegseth is going to hold on long enough to get a hearing in front of the committee. And then he's going to tell this beautiful tale of redemption about how he found Jesus and he's a changed man. At least it will be compelling TV.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

“The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness.”
- Annie Savoy

I agree that he’s not going to make it, though.

Oh there is a lot of pressure on the senators now. If you are a republican senator and you do not vote of him you are gone. Republicans senators and congressmen only serve at Trump’s pleasure. This is not 10 years ago.

Not really. This is true for many Senators but not all. Collins not only has freedom to stand up to Trump, many of her constituents want it. Murkowski still has a lot of freedom and Alaska is conservative but not in thrall to MAGA. John Curtis (replace Romney) has a lot of constituents who specifically dislike Trump's morality problems and Hegseth is a mirror for exactly these issues -- they aren't going to boot him because he opposed a Secretary of Defense with a drinking problem and a history of infidelity and bad management. Thom Tillis is from a purple state and while he can't just break from Trump on everything, he could benefit from standing up to him in selective moments and this would be a good one. And then the Joni Ernst issue with her personal background on issues like sexual assault and women in combat is a problem. Oh and you also have Mitch McConnell who is a wildcard -- he cares a lot about defense and NatSec issues and is a lot less tethered to Trump than other Senators. Like John McCain, he may view being a thorn in Trump's side as his swan song before he retires or dies.

You can have 49 Senators who are willing to give Trump whatever he wants but it only takes four to torpedo the nomination and there are more than four currently at least contemplating it. I haven't even listed them all here. And there is also a possibility of a domino effect -- there are people on the fence who won't go out on a limb for this but if enough people start turning against Hegseth they will jump on the bandwagon.

I had hopes for Tillis as well but he said he would vote for any Trump nominee who makes it out of committee. He’s not on the Armed Services Committee.

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Confirm him or recess appointment. I don't care anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Hegseth hasn’t withdrawn yet. Surely he’s self-aware enough to know he isn’t qualified for this job.

“The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness.”
- Annie Savoy

I agree that he’s not going to make it, though.

Oh there is a lot of pressure on the senators now. If you are a republican senator and you do not vote of him you are gone. Republicans senators and congressmen only serve at Trump’s pleasure. This is not 10 years ago.

Not really. This is true for many Senators but not all. Collins not only has freedom to stand up to Trump, many of her constituents want it. Murkowski still has a lot of freedom and Alaska is conservative but not in thrall to MAGA. John Curtis (replace Romney) has a lot of constituents who specifically dislike Trump's morality problems and Hegseth is a mirror for exactly these issues -- they aren't going to boot him because he opposed a Secretary of Defense with a drinking problem and a history of infidelity and bad management. Thom Tillis is from a purple state and while he can't just break from Trump on everything, he could benefit from standing up to him in selective moments and this would be a good one. And then the Joni Ernst issue with her personal background on issues like sexual assault and women in combat is a problem. Oh and you also have Mitch McConnell who is a wildcard -- he cares a lot about defense and NatSec issues and is a lot less tethered to Trump than other Senators. Like John McCain, he may view being a thorn in Trump's side as his swan song before he retires or dies.

You can have 49 Senators who are willing to give Trump whatever he wants but it only takes four to torpedo the nomination and there are more than four currently at least contemplating it. I haven't even listed them all here. And there is also a possibility of a domino effect -- there are people on the fence who won't go out on a limb for this but if enough people start turning against Hegseth they will jump on the bandwagon.

You are living in a different time. Right now maga is calling and threatening republicans senators. They are not known for their courage. You think Collins is going to stand up by herself against Trump? Sure she has a history this

So? Senators get threatening calls every day. That's one of the reasons they have staffers. Trump supported a number of candidates who were not elected, he primaried a number of candidates who were elected. His power is not strong. This is not 1 years ago, he is not the future of the GOO anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Confirm him or recess appointment. I don't care anymore.

I care. He's a radical Christian Nationalist. You don't want someone with his weak character and wacky views in charge of our military.

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Anonymous wrote:Confirm him or recess appointment. I don't care anymore.

Exactly why is this so important to you? PH is, by anyone’s definition, completely unqualified for the job of SecDef. The fact that he’s a morally repugnant alcoholic is beside the point. There are a million guys just like him out there. But needing to push this agenda that this one particular guy should be in charge of the entire US military? Why would you argue so hard for something that doesn’t make sense? Things like this are what tells me that this is about letting Trump win or you being right, not at all what is best for our country. There’s no argument that you can make that this is what’s best for the US.