Arlington Dems School Board Debate - go!

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Anonymous wrote:I watched and thought she did well. From MK all I heard was edu-babble. A vote for MK would be 1000% more of the same.

+1000.
I'm not a Miranda fan, either, though. But it might be refreshing to have a more critical voice on the Board instead of 5 constantly congratulatory and grateful and what wonderful work you're all doing's.
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Anonymous wrote:Mary actually has a clue for how to plan for Covid and post Covid. And she cares about all kids.

Miranda only cares about those who have been screaming for full time in person. That's it. That was made very clear by her campaign manager TT on AEM who was incredibly hostile to anyone who said that doesn't work for my family. The APS world is much wider than APE. Miranda, if elected, will advocate for those in APE and that's it. That is scary to me.


You are way off base. TT is not her campaign manager, he isn’t even affiliated with anyone in her campaign, he just posts about her all the time on AEM and I bet she wishes he wouldn’t! I could never ever vote for Mary after what she pulled as McKinley PTA President. When her kids school was put up as an option site, she put forth tons of maps screwing over every other school so her precious kids wouldn’t get bussed elsewhere. You think she gives a rats ass about anyone else?? Miranda moved into the Drew neighborhood and plans to send her kids to school there, even though she could afford to live elsewhere or send them to private school. She supports equity, and raises for teachers, and wants ALL kids to have the chance to go back to school. Mary just repeats the same talking points from every other school board member ever, and doesn’t seem to care at all about getting kids back in the classroom.


You're waaaaay off base here.

Miranda is a white gentrifier family who moved into Green Valley. Her kids do not attend Drew. She pulled one out into PRIVATE SCHOOL. The other is in Montessori. So much for equity if you won't even send your kids to the neighborhood school in the historically black neighborhood.

As for Mary, whatever she did at McK with the moves, she didn't do it for her own kids. Her kids were too old to be impacted.


Actually MT's kids have been in Drew for a long time, but she was forced to withdraw them due to school closures issues. I've heard her say publicly her kids want to go back once school is in person again.


"forced?" hahahaha

"forced to withdraw them" and send them to private school" is just hilarious. Talk about privilege and lack of self awareness. Do you know how many people can't afford private? Or could but stuck with the public schools?

I don't want someone representing me who just gives up on public school so quickly, and then wants to represent me and my kids who are STILL in public.

Oh you really made my night.


+1

“Forced”? WTH?


DP So you'd rather have someone who was willing, or forced, to sacrifice what's best for their child on the Board? To me, that translates to a willingness to sacrifice the needs of some students because other students need something different. Worse, possibly sacrificing some kids even though they have the "privileged means" to provide for them. Someone who was "privileged" enough to be able to give her kids what they needed during a time of crisis would be in better position to articulate what APS failed or was unable to provide with direct knowledge of what/how some place else was able to provide it. I think that can have a lot of value, even if APS ultimately isn't able to measure up.
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Anonymous wrote:Mary actually has a clue for how to plan for Covid and post Covid. And she cares about all kids.

Miranda only cares about those who have been screaming for full time in person. That's it. That was made very clear by her campaign manager TT on AEM who was incredibly hostile to anyone who said that doesn't work for my family. The APS world is much wider than APE. Miranda, if elected, will advocate for those in APE and that's it. That is scary to me.


You are way off base. TT is not her campaign manager, he isn’t even affiliated with anyone in her campaign, he just posts about her all the time on AEM and I bet she wishes he wouldn’t! I could never ever vote for Mary after what she pulled as McKinley PTA President. When her kids school was put up as an option site, she put forth tons of maps screwing over every other school so her precious kids wouldn’t get bussed elsewhere. You think she gives a rats ass about anyone else?? Miranda moved into the Drew neighborhood and plans to send her kids to school there, even though she could afford to live elsewhere or send them to private school. She supports equity, and raises for teachers, and wants ALL kids to have the chance to go back to school. Mary just repeats the same talking points from every other school board member ever, and doesn’t seem to care at all about getting kids back in the classroom.


You're waaaaay off base here.

Miranda is a white gentrifier family who moved into Green Valley. Her kids do not attend Drew. She pulled one out into PRIVATE SCHOOL. The other is in Montessori. So much for equity if you won't even send your kids to the neighborhood school in the historically black neighborhood.

As for Mary, whatever she did at McK with the moves, she didn't do it for her own kids. Her kids were too old to be impacted.


Please—that was all about property values (and I’m not a Miranda supporter).


Just curious how it could be about property values. We’re talking about a school that, with neighborhood boundaries, will serve very few students who qualify for fr/l. Moving from one GS 9/10 to another GS 9/10 has no effect on property values. If anything, a home zoned for the newly built school would be more valuable, I would think.



Ha. Everything in Arlington comes down to property values. An option school in your hood brings in outsiders, cars, traffic, fights over parking, and trash. If McK parents didn’t care, why did they fight making McK an option school?
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Anonymous wrote:Mary actually has a clue for how to plan for Covid and post Covid. And she cares about all kids.

Miranda only cares about those who have been screaming for full time in person. That's it. That was made very clear by her campaign manager TT on AEM who was incredibly hostile to anyone who said that doesn't work for my family. The APS world is much wider than APE. Miranda, if elected, will advocate for those in APE and that's it. That is scary to me.


You are way off base. TT is not her campaign manager, he isn’t even affiliated with anyone in her campaign, he just posts about her all the time on AEM and I bet she wishes he wouldn’t! I could never ever vote for Mary after what she pulled as McKinley PTA President. When her kids school was put up as an option site, she put forth tons of maps screwing over every other school so her precious kids wouldn’t get bussed elsewhere. You think she gives a rats ass about anyone else?? Miranda moved into the Drew neighborhood and plans to send her kids to school there, even though she could afford to live elsewhere or send them to private school. She supports equity, and raises for teachers, and wants ALL kids to have the chance to go back to school. Mary just repeats the same talking points from every other school board member ever, and doesn’t seem to care at all about getting kids back in the classroom.


You're waaaaay off base here.

Miranda is a white gentrifier family who moved into Green Valley. Her kids do not attend Drew. She pulled one out into PRIVATE SCHOOL. The other is in Montessori. So much for equity if you won't even send your kids to the neighborhood school in the historically black neighborhood.

As for Mary, whatever she did at McK with the moves, she didn't do it for her own kids. Her kids were too old to be impacted.


Please—that was all about property values (and I’m not a Miranda supporter).


Just curious how it could be about property values. We’re talking about a school that, with neighborhood boundaries, will serve very few students who qualify for fr/l. Moving from one GS 9/10 to another GS 9/10 has no effect on property values. If anything, a home zoned for the newly built school would be more valuable, I would think.



Ha. Everything in Arlington comes down to property values. An option school in your hood brings in outsiders, cars, traffic, fights over parking, and trash. If McK parents didn’t care, why did they fight making McK an option school?


Because they didn't want to lose their neighborhood school that they could walk to. It has nothing to do with property values.
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Anonymous wrote:Mary actually has a clue for how to plan for Covid and post Covid. And she cares about all kids.

Miranda only cares about those who have been screaming for full time in person. That's it. That was made very clear by her campaign manager TT on AEM who was incredibly hostile to anyone who said that doesn't work for my family. The APS world is much wider than APE. Miranda, if elected, will advocate for those in APE and that's it. That is scary to me.


You are way off base. TT is not her campaign manager, he isn’t even affiliated with anyone in her campaign, he just posts about her all the time on AEM and I bet she wishes he wouldn’t! I could never ever vote for Mary after what she pulled as McKinley PTA President. When her kids school was put up as an option site, she put forth tons of maps screwing over every other school so her precious kids wouldn’t get bussed elsewhere. You think she gives a rats ass about anyone else?? Miranda moved into the Drew neighborhood and plans to send her kids to school there, even though she could afford to live elsewhere or send them to private school. She supports equity, and raises for teachers, and wants ALL kids to have the chance to go back to school. Mary just repeats the same talking points from every other school board member ever, and doesn’t seem to care at all about getting kids back in the classroom.


You're waaaaay off base here.

Miranda is a white gentrifier family who moved into Green Valley. Her kids do not attend Drew. She pulled one out into PRIVATE SCHOOL. The other is in Montessori. So much for equity if you won't even send your kids to the neighborhood school in the historically black neighborhood.

As for Mary, whatever she did at McK with the moves, she didn't do it for her own kids. Her kids were too old to be impacted.


Please—that was all about property values (and I’m not a Miranda supporter).


Just curious how it could be about property values. We’re talking about a school that, with neighborhood boundaries, will serve very few students who qualify for fr/l. Moving from one GS 9/10 to another GS 9/10 has no effect on property values. If anything, a home zoned for the newly built school would be more valuable, I would think.



Ha. Everything in Arlington comes down to property values. An option school in your hood brings in outsiders, cars, traffic, fights over parking, and trash. If McK parents didn’t care, why did they fight making McK an option school?


Because they didn't want to lose their neighborhood school. That's why.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched and thought she did well. From MK all I heard was edu-babble. A vote for MK would be 1000% more of the same.

+1000.
I'm not a Miranda fan, either, though. But it might be refreshing to have a more critical voice on the Board instead of 5 constantly congratulatory and grateful and what wonderful work you're all doing's.


Yes - this is why I'm voting for her too. Mary can't stop thanking our do-nothing school board - no thank you.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched and thought she did well. From MK all I heard was edu-babble. A vote for MK would be 1000% more of the same.

+1000.
I'm not a Miranda fan, either, though. But it might be refreshing to have a more critical voice on the Board instead of 5 constantly congratulatory and grateful and what wonderful work you're all doing's.


Yes - this is why I'm voting for her too. Mary can't stop thanking our do-nothing school board - no thank you.


It’s hilarious that you think the ACDC will let her be a “critical voice.” Precious, really. If she were going to walk the talk, she wouldn’t be running for their endorsement, which comes with a lot of strings.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched and thought she did well. From MK all I heard was edu-babble. A vote for MK would be 1000% more of the same.

+1000.
I'm not a Miranda fan, either, though. But it might be refreshing to have a more critical voice on the Board instead of 5 constantly congratulatory and grateful and what wonderful work you're all doing's.


Yes - this is why I'm voting for her too. Mary can't stop thanking our do-nothing school board - no thank you.


It’s hilarious that you think the ACDC will let her be a “critical voice.” Precious, really. If she were going to walk the talk, she wouldn’t be running for their endorsement, which comes with a lot of strings.



That's utter nonsense.

If you want on the ballot, you have to have the ACDC endorsement. If you're not in lock step with ACDC and actively engaged so they know you, you aren't going to get their campaign support and all the individual party people endorsements. Only the people with that support and those endorsements have any potential "strings." And if you're not interested in politics and seeking higher office, you have no reason to feel beholden by any implied strings.

ACDC doesn't censor SB candidates - they haven't had any they needed to, which is the problem! ACDC influences who gets ON the board. You can do what you want according to your own political ambitions after that.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched and thought she did well. From MK all I heard was edu-babble. A vote for MK would be 1000% more of the same.

+1000.
I'm not a Miranda fan, either, though. But it might be refreshing to have a more critical voice on the Board instead of 5 constantly congratulatory and grateful and what wonderful work you're all doing's.


Yes - this is why I'm voting for her too. Mary can't stop thanking our do-nothing school board - no thank you.


It’s hilarious that you think the ACDC will let her be a “critical voice.” Precious, really. If she were going to walk the talk, she wouldn’t be running for their endorsement, which comes with a lot of strings.



That's utter nonsense.

If you want on the ballot, you have to have the ACDC endorsement. If you're not in lock step with ACDC and actively engaged so they know you, you aren't going to get their campaign support and all the individual party people endorsements. Only the people with that support and those endorsements have any potential "strings." And if you're not interested in politics and seeking higher office, you have no reason to feel beholden by any implied strings.

ACDC doesn't censor SB candidates - they haven't had any they needed to, which is the problem! ACDC influences who gets ON the board. You can do what you want according to your own political ambitions after that.


+1. If the ACDC endorsement didn't matter at all, the last independent who ran would be sitting on the board. And she was the truly qualified one.
Anonymous
I finally got around to watching this. There was a question about learning loss and and Mary responded that we need to “reframe” the question. I am so sick of this toxic positivity gaslighting nonsense. I then checked her website and found she really believes this crap. She sounds just like all the other school board members. NO thank you!

“3. Reframe "learning loss." I've been thinking a lot of about the term "learning loss" and its cousins, "achievement gap" and "academic deficit" and "struggling students." What do these terms have in common? They emphasize what students lack and ignore the strengths they bring. The blame rests with the student, not with the system.

I thank Gabriela Uro and her colleagues at the Council of Great City Schools for introducing me to the term "unfinished learning," which I like much better.

Why does our word choice matter? Because of the message it sends to our students about their value. Our kids are more than their reading levels, SOL scores, and end-of-quarter grades. Many have exhibited unbelievable amounts of determination, patience, and maturity during the pandemic. If we reduce them to a score on a standardized test or measure their "grit" only by on-time completion of a difficult assignment, we'll do them an injustice.

Here's how we can address academics in a more thoughtful way:
Acknowledge students' strengths. Ask them what skills they learned or what qualities they developed during the past year. Ask them to identify something they did that they're proud of. We can use this information to tap into their strengths while we're working on areas for improvement.
Conduct careful diagnostic assessments. We'll need to know exactly where each student is at, in terms of knowledge and skills, to design learning experiences that provide the right level of support and challenge. Every student deserves instruction that supports and challenges them.
Provide robust compensatory services for students with disabilities who may not have received the full range of supports outlined in their IEPs during the pandemic.
Use research-based curriculum and interventions that have a demonstrated impact on student achievement. Let go of curriculum and practices that don't have a strong evidence base.
Celebrate positive gains--no matter how small. My role model here is the late Texas educator Rita Pierson. Take seven minutes to watch her TED Talk "Every kid needs a champion" and you'll be inspired by how she affirmed to every child in her care that they were valuable and capable, no matter what their grades or test scores showed.”


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Wow. I can’t with the anti-testing, learning loss doesn’t exist people. It’s like we can make it go away if we don’t acknowledge or measure it. I think we could streamline testing, but the idea that the test itself is bad because it reveals very real educational differences between student groups is crazy.
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Anonymous wrote:I watched and thought she did well. From MK all I heard was edu-babble. A vote for MK would be 1000% more of the same.

+1000.
I'm not a Miranda fan, either, though. But it might be refreshing to have a more critical voice on the Board instead of 5 constantly congratulatory and grateful and what wonderful work you're all doing's.


Yes - this is why I'm voting for her too. Mary can't stop thanking our do-nothing school board - no thank you.


It’s hilarious that you think the ACDC will let her be a “critical voice.” Precious, really. If she were going to walk the talk, she wouldn’t be running for their endorsement, which comes with a lot of strings.



That's utter nonsense.

If you want on the ballot, you have to have the ACDC endorsement. If you're not in lock step with ACDC and actively engaged so they know you, you aren't going to get their campaign support and all the individual party people endorsements. Only the people with that support and those endorsements have any potential "strings." And if you're not interested in politics and seeking higher office, you have no reason to feel beholden by any implied strings.

ACDC doesn't censor SB candidates - they haven't had any they needed to, which is the problem! ACDC influences who gets ON the board. You can do what you want according to your own political ambitions after that.


Sweet summer child.
Anonymous
Turner has nothing else to say other than RTS. She just agreed with Mary on any other issue in the debate. It's not a good look for neutral voters. We all want to go back! Kadera included, lets just hope that freakin happens
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Anonymous wrote:Turner has nothing else to say other than RTS. She just agreed with Mary on any other issue in the debate. It's not a good look for neutral voters. We all want to go back! Kadera included, lets just hope that freakin happens


Well DUH! Of course. Is it even really a debate when both people are part of the same party? By definition, yes there ideas and values are going to align so not much of a debate more so who can say the same things differently the most times.

It doesn't change the fact that MK is way too interested in edu speak. She doesn't want to make any changes, she just wants to be on the Board. She will likely got a few meetings, find out it's actually work and than "wow! AEM doesn't represent the majority of parents?! How can that be??? You mean there are parents in APS with complaints that don't belong to AEM. Who knew????"

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Anonymous wrote:Turner has nothing else to say other than RTS. She just agreed with Mary on any other issue in the debate. It's not a good look for neutral voters. We all want to go back! Kadera included, lets just hope that freakin happens


Well DUH! Of course. Is it even really a debate when both people are part of the same party? By definition, yes there ideas and values are going to align so not much of a debate more so who can say the same things differently the most times.

It doesn't change the fact that MK is way too interested in edu speak. She doesn't want to make any changes, she just wants to be on the Board. She will likely got a few meetings, find out it's actually work and than "wow! AEM doesn't represent the majority of parents?! How can that be??? You mean there are parents in APS with complaints that don't belong to AEM. Who knew????"



WTF are you talking about? MK is already doing 100x more work than MT. Various APS committees, PTA, CCPTA, etc. She actually understands what the SB does and what work will be required. And she can meaningfully engage on a wide variety of topics without repeating "RTS" like a robot.

Is MK even on AEM? I know MT is...
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