UVA Early Action

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Any TJ kid not get into UvA?

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How do they admit the same number when the applications are split up between ED, EA, and RD?

ED gets acceptance before the RD deadline.

They also don’t know who is going to withdraw because of getting in ED elsewhere.

I just don’t think it’s logistically possible to hit the same number of admissions from one school when there are three deadlines and ED at others schools as a factor. And how is anyone so certain that the same numbers gets in every year? Have you been tracking this for years?

I can see the last five years in Naviance. Applied/Accepted/Admitted. It's easy to find. Other VA schools don't have the consistent number so don't seem to have the firm quota that UVA does.

+1 Maggie Walker is a top, top school.

I can see the past 10 years in my Naviance... not hard to gather the information.

Which makes it so strange that UVA continues to insist there's no quotas by school.

They can insist until they are blue in the face, but I am quite sure they do unofficially. When my kids were accepted ED, they met a bunch of kids in the accepted students social media. My son told me about a kid he was talking to from the Richmond area. They had 10 kids apply ED and ALL of them got in. Really? That would NEVER happen up here in NoVA.

Most likely Maggie Walker so not at all out of the ordinary, there are 18 academic year Gov Schools in Virginia.

+1 Maggie Walker is a top, top school.

Some NOVA people don't understand there are great public school systems all over Virginia.
Look how Richmond and Virginia Beach School system works. You will be surprised. 

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Anonymous wrote:Nova wannabes gotta pressure their political leaders to pressure uva to increase class size. Takes money, yes. But reputation and elite standing won't be impacted at all. If not...enjoy George Mason!

No. It’s relatively small and we (the UVA community) like it’s size. It already has grown about 50 percent in the last 25 years due to state population growth so it’s good.

+1. There are also 40 other public’s colleges and universities to pick from in Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1490 SAT 4.2 GPA. Didn't really expect an acceptance since his GPA is relatively low. But, he wanted to give it a shot.

Those are good stats, is he out of state?

Those are great stats but on the edge for UVA from this area. Much harder to get in from OOS and here than the rest of the state.

We know another FCPS senior who had similar stats, 6 APs and 2+ generations of UVA legacy who got rejected during EA. I don't think UVA considers legacy for in-state applicants, but it would have been an indication of demonstrated interest. However, demonstrated interest for in-state doesn't seem to be a factor at all, given that the lower tuition rates for in-state applicants are very attractive for families with uncertain economic prospects during our COVID-stricken times.

The more surprising thing is that UVA didn't defer the kid or even want to see the kid's mid-year grades, even a legacy kid.

As PP said, UVA filled up much of the class with ED, and now EA. We just told our own DC, who has similar stats but no hooks, also to expect a rejection in RD.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1490 SAT 4.2 GPA. Didn't really expect an acceptance since his GPA is relatively low. But, he wanted to give it a shot.

Those are good stats, is he out of state?

Those are great stats but on the edge for UVA from this area. Much harder to get in from OOS and here than the rest of the state.

We know another FCPS senior who had similar stats, 6 APs and 2+ generations of UVA legacy who got rejected during EA. I don't think UVA considers legacy for in-state applicants, but it would have been an indication of demonstrated interest. However, demonstrated interest for in-state doesn't seem to be a factor at all, given that the lower tuition rates for in-state applicants are very attractive for families with uncertain economic prospects during our COVID-stricken times.

The more surprising thing is that UVA didn't defer the kid or even want to see the kid's mid-year grades, even a legacy kid.

As PP said, UVA filled up much of the class with ED, and now EA. We just told our own DC, who has similar stats but no hooks, also to expect a rejection in RD.

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But it should be noted that a 4.2 is too low for acceptance from a NOVA school. The stats for all the Virginia public and privates universities can be found in the SCHEV reports - provided by the Commonwealth of Virginia. If you check those before applying, you will see that a 4.2 puts you at the bottom 25% of the incoming class for last year. To get in should be higher. The 75th percentile for enrolled students last fall was a 4.48. Median was a 4.34. And a 4.2 is the bottom 25% (and that's usually taken up by atheletes, some URM, low income, first generation, notable international students, legacies, etc. etc. etc.). High school counselors should be showing parents the SCHEV results along with Naviance for comparison to their own high school class. My DD was one of those that could never dream of getting in so we didn't bother applying - she went to another Virginia University.

Bear in mind that the SCHEV results are students who actually showed up, not those accepted (which are even higher stats - some of those students peel off to go to Ivies or prestigious SLACS). If you are in NOVA you should be aiming for the 75th percentile.

Here is the SCHEV link. Insert the name of the University and it will give you the stats. for the composition of the last incoming class. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Virginia makes it very transparent.

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It could have any any one of a dozen excellent public and private schools in Richmond. They have big publics with AP and magnet programs besides Maggie Walker.

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Anonymous wrote:So if I understand the acceptances listed; everyone has astonishingly high GPAS and ECs and everyone accepted submitted their scores, correct?

From NOVA -yes!

My kid did applied test optional, FWIW. Accepted with 4.36 (as of the end of junior year). Hasn’t had much ECs in HS (travel soccer outside of HS). IB diploma probably weighed heavily in his favor.

Is that true about full IB? We only had a chance to visit a couple of schools pre-COVID, and while the reps had positive views of IB, they didn't indicate heavy weighting for it. We were with other families, though, so maybe they were being diplomatic. DS is full IB, applying to UVA RD. Similar stats to your kid except he did submit SAT (1420).

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1490 SAT 4.2 GPA. Didn't really expect an acceptance since his GPA is relatively low. But, he wanted to give it a shot.

Those are good stats, is he out of state?

Those are great stats but on the edge for UVA from this area. Much harder to get in from OOS and here than the rest of the state.

We know another FCPS senior who had similar stats, 6 APs and 2+ generations of UVA legacy who got rejected during EA. I don't think UVA considers legacy for in-state applicants, but it would have been an indication of demonstrated interest. However, demonstrated interest for in-state doesn't seem to be a factor at all, given that the lower tuition rates for in-state applicants are very attractive for families with uncertain economic prospects during our COVID-stricken times.

The more surprising thing is that UVA didn't defer the kid or even want to see the kid's mid-year grades, even a legacy kid.

As PP said, UVA filled up much of the class with ED, and now EA. We just told our own DC, who has similar stats but no hooks, also to expect a rejection in RD.

Six APs is low for UVA admits from here.

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Anonymous wrote:It could have any any one of a dozen excellent public and private schools in Richmond. They have big publics with AP and magnet programs besides Maggie Walker.

Yes, there are 18 Gov Schools throughout the state. MW and TJ are the only 4 year, the rest are two year, my son goes to his local HS in the morning for his core classes and STEM is all done in the afternoon at an off-site location. Great program for those of us that don't have a TJ or MW. His school alone already has acceptances to Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Duke and of course UVA and it's only 100 students.

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Anonymous wrote:It could have any any one of a dozen excellent public and private schools in Richmond. They have big publics with AP and magnet programs besides Maggie Walker.

Yes, there are 18 Gov Schools throughout the state. MW and TJ are the only 4 year, the rest are two year, my son goes to his local HS in the morning for his core classes and STEM is all done in the afternoon at an off-site location. Great program for those of us that don't have a TJ or MW. His school alone already has acceptances to Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Duke and of course UVA and it's only 100 students.[/quot

I stand corrected 7 of the 18 are 9-12, rest are 11-12.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I guess I just don’t understand why a state school requires stats that one would expect at an Ivy. I mean, seriously?

Virginia is blessed with several very high-quality public schools, each are actually very different from the other in vibe and in that way it serves our state really well. We’re very lucky to have all the great schools we have in Virginia.

It isn’t “blessed.” It invested in them.

Actually, it barely invested in them at all. Woefully underfunded.

Try again. The legislature is pumping money into the Commknwealth’s schools. DS went to George Mason - he experienced nonstop construction while there. SSame with other campuses. And UVA spun itself off a decade ago and now receives less than 6 percent if its operating budget from the Commonwealth.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I guess I just don’t understand why a state school requires stats that one would expect at an Ivy. I mean, seriously?

Virginia is blessed with several very high-quality public schools, each are actually very different from the other in vibe and in that way it serves our state really well. We’re very lucky to have all the great schools we have in Virginia.

Yes. The kids that just missed UVA will do fine at W&M or Va Tech. In fact, for some, the other schools are better fits. My DD (accepted EA at UVA last year, but chose W&M) found the atmosphere at UVA to be to extroverted for her.

+1 I'm the PP whose 1490/4.2 kid was rejected. I actually didn't want him to apply because I think VT is a much better fit for him and what he wants to study. If he'd taken my advice he'd have applied there ED. But, of course, it's his decision. I think the inability to attend events the last Spring made it hard for him to fully commit to ED.

Did the counselor check off the “most rigorous” box?

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Anonymous wrote:Do most TJ kids get into UVA?

No, most don't. The answer is simple: how many TJ kids have W.GPA of 4.3 above? that is the cutoff for UVA. They are a GPA number based admit school, absent hooks, sports, preferred minority, etc. Most TJ kids fall under the 4.3 W.GPA cutoff, in fact most hover around 4 to 4.2 weighted, making them a better fit at VT, which isn't a bad idea at all, although they could get into UVA if they simply went to their base schools instead of taking prep classes to get into TJ.

TJ used to publish, as part of its public FCPS profile, a count of college acceptances (not just where students finally attended). If you google, you can find one for the class of 2014 (455 students). That year 168 were accepted to UVA or 37% of the class. Class of 2013 has 195 acceptances. Class of 2012, 219 acceptances.

TJ stopped publishing those numbers circa 2016.

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Any student that you know of who had 4.45 as post first semester senior year who didn't get into UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1490 SAT 4.2 GPA. Didn't really expect an acceptance since his GPA is relatively low. But, he wanted to give it a shot.

Those are good stats, is he out of state?

Those are great stats but on the edge for UVA from this area. Much harder to get in from OOS and here than the rest of the state.

We know another FCPS senior who had similar stats, 6 APs and 2+ generations of UVA legacy who got rejected during EA. I don't think UVA considers legacy for in-state applicants, but it would have been an indication of demonstrated interest. However, demonstrated interest for in-state doesn't seem to be a factor at all, given that the lower tuition rates for in-state applicants are very attractive for families with uncertain economic prospects during our COVID-stricken times.

The more surprising thing is that UVA didn't defer the kid or even want to see the kid's mid-year grades, even a legacy kid.

As PP said, UVA filled up much of the class with ED, and now EA. We just told our own DC, who has similar stats but no hooks, also to expect a rejection in RD.

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But it should be noted that a 4.2 is too low for acceptance from a NOVA school. The stats for all the Virginia public and privates universities can be found in the SCHEV reports - provided by the Commonwealth of Virginia. If you check those before applying, you will see that a 4.2 puts you at the bottom 25% of the incoming class for last year. To get in should be higher. The 75th percentile for enrolled students last fall was a 4.48. Median was a 4.34. And a 4.2 is the bottom 25% (and that's usually taken up by atheletes, some URM, low income, first generation, notable international students, legacies, etc. etc. etc.). High school counselors should be showing parents the SCHEV results along with Naviance for comparison to their own high school class. My DD was one of those that could never dream of getting in so we didn't bother applying - she went to another Virginia University.

Bear in mind that the SCHEV results are students who actually showed up, not those accepted (which are even higher stats - some of those students peel off to go to Ivies or prestigious SLACS). If you are in NOVA you should be aiming for the 75th percentile.

Here is the SCHEV link. Insert the name of the University and it will give you the stats. for the composition of the last incoming class. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Virginia makes it very transparent.

I think those gpas are at the end of senior year. As is naviance. Don't want to scare away too many kids whose gpas are continuing to rise.

Also, I think LCPS gpas are higher than fcps. They use A pluses, and maybe not A minuses, but not sure.