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Anonymous wrote:Dean J would never say that GPA (meaning the transcript compared to what the school offers) isn’t the #1 factor in admissions. In fact, she says it is the #1 factor in pretty much every Instagram live and blogpost she’s ever done.

Not just GPA number. It matters with the context of course selection and academic achievement.

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Anonymous wrote:So if I understand the acceptances listed; everyone has astonishingly high GPAS and ECs and everyone accepted submitted their scores, correct?

From NOVA -yes!

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Anonymous wrote:Dean J would never say that GPA (meaning the transcript compared to what the school offers) isn’t the #1 factor in admissions. In fact, she says it is the #1 factor in pretty much every Instagram live and blogpost she’s ever done.

Well, not exactly. She's said GPAs aren't really comparable. It's about high grades and rigor. And rigor is judged against what's available at your school. If your school offers a ton of AP/IB classes and doesn't limit the number students are allowed per year you have to fill your schedule with them to be competitive and then do really well in those classes.

UVA expects the counselor rating of "most rigorous." We just had the academic planning meeting for junior classes for my DD and I asked her about this rating. From W-L to get that label you need to be full IB or take 5+ APs junior year and the same or more in senior year. My DD is not up for that. She'll take 3 junior year and likely 5 senior year and has 2 in 9th-10th. That gets her schedule a "very demanding" rating, the step below "most rigorous." She will not be competitive for UVA, which is fine because DD is interested in a smaller school.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected. 1490 SAT 4.2 GPA. Didn't really expect an acceptance since his GPA is relatively low. But, he wanted to give it a shot.

Those are good stats, is he out of state?

Those are great stats but on the edge for UVA from this area. Much harder to get in from OOS and here than the rest of the state.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I guess I just don’t understand why a state school requires stats that one would expect at an Ivy. I mean, seriously?

Virginia is blessed with several very high-quality public schools, each are actually very different from the other in vibe and in that way it serves our state really well. We’re very lucky to have all the great schools we have in Virginia.

It isn’t “blessed.” It invested in them.

Agree! The state invested and I meant the students are blessed with the choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Dean J would never say that GPA (meaning the transcript compared to what the school offers) isn’t the #1 factor in admissions. In fact, she says it is the #1 factor in pretty much every Instagram live and blogpost she’s ever done.

Not just GPA number. It matters with the context of course selection and academic achievement.

Yes. It makes sense if you actually read the blog and listen to what is being said. She had talked about needing the right courses for the college chosen (engineering for example) and good grade trends.

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Anonymous wrote:Dean J would never say that GPA (meaning the transcript compared to what the school offers) isn’t the #1 factor in admissions. In fact, she says it is the #1 factor in pretty much every Instagram live and blogpost she’s ever done.

Well, not exactly. She's said GPAs aren't really comparable. It's about high grades and rigor. And rigor is judged against what's available at your school. If your school offers a ton of AP/IB classes and doesn't limit the number students are allowed per year you have to fill your schedule with them to be competitive and then do really well in those classes.

UVA expects the counselor rating of "most rigorous." We just had the academic planning meeting for junior classes for my DD and I asked her about this rating. From W-L to get that label you need to be full IB or take 5+ APs junior year and the same or more in senior year. My DD is not up for that. She'll take 3 junior year and likely 5 senior year and has 2 in 9th-10th. That gets her schedule a "very demanding" rating, the step below "most rigorous." She will not be competitive for UVA, which is fine because DD is interested in a smaller school.

Um, that’s exactly what I said - “‘meaning the transcript compared to what the school offers”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nova wannabes gotta pressure their political leaders to pressure uva to increase class size. Takes money, yes. But reputation and elite standing won't be impacted at all. If not...enjoy George Mason!

No. It’s relatively small and we (the UVA community) like it’s size. It already has grown about 50 percent in the last 25 years due to state population growth so it’s good.

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Trying to apply quantitative data (GPA, test scores) to a admission decision doesn’t work. Certainly, there is a minimum floor that can be used as guidance, but it’s not a one size fits all solution. There’s so much more that goes into the decision that is all qualitative; teacher/counselor recommendations, extracurricular activities, response to required essays, volunteerism, leadership skills, etc.

For example, our child, who attends a highly rated FCPS HS (not TJ) was ED accepted into UVA Engineering this year with an SAT of 1440, which was submitted, and a GPA of 4.3. He played a varsity sport all four years, including being a captain this year, participated in numerous volunteer opportunities, works as a sports official and a lifeguard, demonstrated leadership skills, among other things. Based on GPA and test scores alone, by reading this forum, he shouldn’t have been admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trying to apply quantitative data (GPA, test scores) to a admission decision doesn’t work. Certainly, there is a minimum floor that can be used as guidance, but it’s not a one size fits all solution. There’s so much more that goes into the decision that is all qualitative; teacher/counselor recommendations, extracurricular activities, response to required essays, volunteerism, leadership skills, etc.

For example, our child, who attends a highly rated FCPS HS (not TJ) was ED accepted into UVA Engineering this year with an SAT of 1440, which was submitted, and a GPA of 4.3. He played a varsity sport all four years, including being a captain this year, participated in numerous volunteer opportunities, works as a sports official and a lifeguard, demonstrated leadership skills, among other things. Based on GPA and test scores alone, by reading this forum, he shouldn’t have been admitted.

Didn’t you say you child applied ED? That’s a totally different game. Also 4.3 is a (soft) cutoff for TJ only.

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Anonymous wrote:So if I understand the acceptances listed; everyone has astonishingly high GPAS and ECs and everyone accepted submitted their scores, correct?

From NOVA -yes!

My kid did applied test optional, FWIW. Accepted with 4.36 (as of the end of junior year). Hasn’t had much ECs in HS (travel soccer outside of HS). IB diploma probably weighed heavily in his favor.

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Anonymous wrote:So if I understand the acceptances listed; everyone has astonishingly high GPAS and ECs and everyone accepted submitted their scores, correct?

From NOVA -yes!

My kid did applied test optional, FWIW. Accepted with 4.36 (as of the end of junior year). Hasn’t had much ECs in HS (travel soccer outside of HS). IB diploma probably weighed heavily in his favor.

UVA seems to love the IB Diploma

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How do they admit the same number when the applications are split up between ED, EA, and RD?

ED gets acceptance before the RD deadline.

They also don’t know who is going to withdraw because of getting in ED elsewhere.

I just don’t think it’s logistically possible to hit the same number of admissions from one school when there are three deadlines and ED at others schools as a factor. And how is anyone so certain that the same numbers gets in every year? Have you been tracking this for years?

I can see the last five years in Naviance. Applied/Accepted/Admitted. It's easy to find. Other VA schools don't have the consistent number so don't seem to have the firm quota that UVA does.

I can see the past 10 years in my Naviance... not hard to gather the information.

Which makes it so strange that UVA continues to insist there's no quotas by school.

They can insist until they are blue in the face, but I am quite sure they do unofficially. When my kids were accepted ED, they met a bunch of kids in the accepted students social media. My son told me about a kid he was talking to from the Richmond area. They had 10 kids apply ED and ALL of them got in. Really? That would NEVER happen up here in NoVA.

Most likely Maggie Walker so not at all out of the ordinary, there are 18 academic year Gov Schools in Virginia.

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How do they admit the same number when the applications are split up between ED, EA, and RD?

ED gets acceptance before the RD deadline.

They also don’t know who is going to withdraw because of getting in ED elsewhere.

I just don’t think it’s logistically possible to hit the same number of admissions from one school when there are three deadlines and ED at others schools as a factor. And how is anyone so certain that the same numbers gets in every year? Have you been tracking this for years?

I can see the last five years in Naviance. Applied/Accepted/Admitted. It's easy to find. Other VA schools don't have the consistent number so don't seem to have the firm quota that UVA does.

+1 Maggie Walker is a top, top school.

I can see the past 10 years in my Naviance... not hard to gather the information.

Which makes it so strange that UVA continues to insist there's no quotas by school.

They can insist until they are blue in the face, but I am quite sure they do unofficially. When my kids were accepted ED, they met a bunch of kids in the accepted students social media. My son told me about a kid he was talking to from the Richmond area. They had 10 kids apply ED and ALL of them got in. Really? That would NEVER happen up here in NoVA.

Most likely Maggie Walker so not at all out of the ordinary, there are 18 academic year Gov Schools in Virginia.

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How do they admit the same number when the applications are split up between ED, EA, and RD?

ED gets acceptance before the RD deadline.

They also don’t know who is going to withdraw because of getting in ED elsewhere.

I just don’t think it’s logistically possible to hit the same number of admissions from one school when there are three deadlines and ED at others schools as a factor. And how is anyone so certain that the same numbers gets in every year? Have you been tracking this for years?

I can see the last five years in Naviance. Applied/Accepted/Admitted. It's easy to find. Other VA schools don't have the consistent number so don't seem to have the firm quota that UVA does.

+1 Maggie Walker is a top, top school.

I can see the past 10 years in my Naviance... not hard to gather the information.

Which makes it so strange that UVA continues to insist there's no quotas by school.

They can insist until they are blue in the face, but I am quite sure they do unofficially. When my kids were accepted ED, they met a bunch of kids in the accepted students social media. My son told me about a kid he was talking to from the Richmond area. They had 10 kids apply ED and ALL of them got in. Really? That would NEVER happen up here in NoVA.

Most likely Maggie Walker so not at all out of the ordinary, there are 18 academic year Gov Schools in Virginia.

+1 Maggie Walker is a top, top school.