McLean to Explore Separating from FC & FCPS

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Anonymous wrote:moving forward with this would create a school that could rival TJ. Given the changes going on there, this would be welcomed

No it wouldn't. That's not what TJ is.

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Anonymous wrote:It they do this, they need to do whatever it takes to keep the "affordable housing" lobbyists and nonprofit groups out.

the whole reason to do this is to avoid subsidizing affordable areas. There is no chance they would welcome affordable housing

Not so. You can still subsidize affordable areas if you still get reasonable services yourself. McLean doesn’t - just look at recent FCPS priorities:

* keeping Cooper/Longfellow kids out of TJ with no acknowledgement of enrollment impacts on Langley and McLean

* building new additions at less overcrowded schools like Justice and Madison while sticking McLean kids in trailers and a second-hand modular

* developing a new Academy program at Lewis HS next summer on top of AP/IB while Langley and McLean have no special programs and some of the largest class sizes in the county

It’s time to set up a new jurisdiction that has more control over its resources.

Besides a renovation, what does McLean HS need? To transfer some kids to Langley?

How will incorporating do that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:moving forward with this would create a school that could rival TJ. Given the changes going on there, this would be welcomed

No it wouldn't. That's not what TJ is.

The question is what will TJ be going forward. With the proposed changes, it wont be the old TJ

[Anonymous]

If McLean HS needs a major renovation, is now really the best time to incorporate? Might be smart to wait and let FCPS pay for that first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:moving forward with this would create a school that could rival TJ. Given the changes going on there, this would be welcomed

No it wouldn't. That's not what TJ is.

The question is what will TJ be going forward. With the proposed changes, it wont be the old TJ

Exactly. TJ will become a neighborhood school and Mclean would become the magnet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:moving forward with this would create a school that could rival TJ. Given the changes going on there, this would be welcomed

No it wouldn't. That's not what TJ is.

If the local high schools kept the large numbers of kids who would normally go to TJ and keep some of the kids who would go to private schools, the McLean public schools would be truly excellent.

I say this as a parent with 3 kids who is dissatisfied with what is currently going on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:moving forward with this would create a school that could rival TJ. Given the changes going on there, this would be welcomed

No it wouldn't. That's not what TJ is.

The question is what will TJ be going forward. With the proposed changes, it wont be the old TJ

Exactly. TJ will become a neighborhood school and Mclean would become the magnet.

McLean kids could easily fill half the seats at TJ. With the proposed lottery, TJ will fall and won’t be TJ at all.

Fcps wants to kill the best high school in the country and constantly screws over McLean. Why wouldn’t McLean want to leave FCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:moving forward with this would create a school that could rival TJ. Given the changes going on there, this would be welcomed

No it wouldn't. That's not what TJ is.

If you keep all the poors out, the scores will soar!!! Just look at Langley, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:I will pay higher taxes if it means bringing control of our schools back to McLean and keeping said tax dollars here in McLean!

Tax dollars do stay in McLean. Sheesh.

Umm, no, they don’t. The high property taxes that I pay here in McLean get sent all over the county and are subsidizing other locales.

Doesn't every homeowner pay the same rate?

Nope.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/taxes/real-estate/tax-rates

If you live in special districts there are additional taxes for land acquisition, leaf collection and community centers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It they do this, they need to do whatever it takes to keep the "affordable housing" lobbyists and nonprofit groups out.

the whole reason to do this is to avoid subsidizing affordable areas. There is no chance they would welcome affordable housing

Not so. You can still subsidize affordable areas if you still get reasonable services yourself. McLean doesn’t - just look at recent FCPS priorities:

* keeping Cooper/Longfellow kids out of TJ with no acknowledgement of enrollment impacts on Langley and McLean

* building new additions at less overcrowded schools like Justice and Madison while sticking McLean kids in trailers and a second-hand modular

* developing a new Academy program at Lewis HS next summer on top of AP/IB while Langley and McLean have no special programs and some of the largest class sizes in the county

It’s time to set up a new jurisdiction that has more control over its resources.

Besides a renovation, what does McLean HS need? To transfer some kids to Langley?

How will incorporating do that?

Delivering on promises.

FCPS told McLean it would get an addition back in 2014-15 time frame; then it reneged and slated other schools for additions instead. They also expanded Langley more than previously planned or disclosed - so even if kids do eventually get moved to Langley, they'll be traveling longer distances to HS.

Langley renovation was done by fall 2018. Boundary change should have been ready to implement then. FCPS dragged its heels and planning has been bad. Earliest boundary change now would be fall 2021 - three years too late. FCPS has given no assurances about grandfathering, and had to be hit over the head to recognize the middle schools needed to be included within the scope of a boundary study.

And with autonomy, McLean City could pay potentially teachers more and have smaller class sizes.

Separately, if Great Falls was included, western GF could stop worrying about getting booted out of Langley to Herndon or the phantom western HS that never gets built.

[Anonymous]

so what would the proposed boundaries be?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:moving forward with this would create a school that could rival TJ. Given the changes going on there, this would be welcomed

No it wouldn't. That's not what TJ is.

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You know how many wealthy and mediocre kids there are academically???

[Anonymous]

Ah, the top 9.9% hoarding their riches and only caring about their own kids.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/06/the-birth-of-a-new-american-aristocracy/559130/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If McLean HS needs a major renovation, is now really the best time to incorporate? Might be smart to wait and let FCPS pay for that first.

FCPS didnt deliver on this before, why would they now? Also, it would be coming from McLean taxes anyway. There is no benefit in waiting around for FCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It they do this, they need to do whatever it takes to keep the "affordable housing" lobbyists and nonprofit groups out.

the whole reason to do this is to avoid subsidizing affordable areas. There is no chance they would welcome affordable housing

Not so. You can still subsidize affordable areas if you still get reasonable services yourself. McLean doesn’t - just look at recent FCPS priorities:

* keeping Cooper/Longfellow kids out of TJ with no acknowledgement of enrollment impacts on Langley and McLean

* building new additions at less overcrowded schools like Justice and Madison while sticking McLean kids in trailers and a second-hand modular

* developing a new Academy program at Lewis HS next summer on top of AP/IB while Langley and McLean have no special programs and some of the largest class sizes in the county

It’s time to set up a new jurisdiction that has more control over its resources.

Besides a renovation, what does McLean HS need? To transfer some kids to Langley?

How will incorporating do that?

Delivering on promises.

FCPS told McLean it would get an addition back in 2014-15 time frame; then it reneged and slated other schools for additions instead. They also expanded Langley more than previously planned or disclosed - so even if kids do eventually get moved to Langley, they'll be traveling longer distances to HS.

Langley renovation was done by fall 2018. Boundary change should have been ready to implement then. FCPS dragged its heels and planning has been bad. Earliest boundary change now would be fall 2021 - three years too late. FCPS has given no assurances about grandfathering, and had to be hit over the head to recognize the middle schools needed to be included within the scope of a boundary study.

And with autonomy, McLean City could pay potentially teachers more and have smaller class sizes.

Separately, if Great Falls was included, western GF could stop worrying about getting booted out of Langley to Herndon or the phantom western HS that never gets built.

Mclean families don’t want to move to Langley if their kids can’t attend cooper MS. Cooper MS construction hasn’t even begun yet. Another FCPS fail.